Major HGH brands: Saizen gone

[thelion2005]

I am aware of Jintropin from China. Early reports are that it seems safe though not FDA approved.

The major HGH brands in the USA are:
Genotropin
Humatrope
Nutropin
Saizer
Serostim
Somatropin
Zorbtive

Note that Saizen supplies are no longer manufactured. You might find warehoused stock still available.

The company was hit with a major fine for AIDS marketing violations
and folded.

 

[d_o_c_]

Great informative post.

 

[ed2005]

Shit Lion, I thought Saizen was the best GH ever produced.....Hope I find a warehouse full of it somewhere.
Good post....k

Sorry.....You must spread some Karma around before giving it to thelion2005 again.

 

[ed2005]

However, I might just check your source on that info. Here's some clips from the manufacturers in switzerland just updated on February 6th which sugests that everythings dandy in the garden..

Geneva, Switzerland, February 6, 2006 - Serono (virt-x: SEO and NYSE: SRA) today reported its fourth quarter and full year results for the period ended December 31, 2005.

Saizen® sales increased by 13.4% (12.5% in local currencies) to $206.5m (2004: $182.1m) in 2005, and were up 2.1% (5.9% in local currencies) to $54.3m (2004: $53.2m) during the fourth quarter. In 2005, Saizen® was approved by the FDA in Adult Growth Hormone Deficiency and successfully completed the European mutual recognition procedure leading to marketing approval for the treatment of children born Small for Gestational Age (SGA) in 15 EU countries.

Serostim® sales decreased to $70.4m for the full year 2005 (2004: $86.8m) and $17.0m (2004: $22.6m) in the fourth quarter.


Key Points for Full Year 2005

Adjusted* net income up 28.4% to $565.3m and adjusted basic EPS* up 34.6% to $38.80 per bearer share and $0.97 per ADS
Significant improvement in adjusted* operating margin to 24.0% of revenues
Reported net loss of $106.1m and $7.28 per bearer share and $0.18 per ADS
Total revenues of $2,586.4m and product sales of $2,338.9m
Global Rebif® sales up 16.4% to $1,269.8m with US sales up 31.8% to $389.5m
Progress in key MS clinical trials
REGARD 1 st year of treatment completed in Rebif® vs Copaxone head-to-head study
CLARITY: oral cladribine Phase III study enrolling
Positive outcomes in two phase III programs
r-hGH in HIV-associated adipose redistribution syndrome (HARS)
IFN-beta 1a with or without ribavirin in chronic hepatitis C in Asian patients
R&D pipeline expanded through new collaborations with Biomarin, Genmab, NovImmune and Rigel
2006 outlook for high single-digit product sales growth and EPS between $42.00 and $43.40 per bearer share

 

[mr.jones]

so....what the deal, is it still being made

 

[eatdirt]

bump

 

[ed2005]

Hey guys, it still looks like it' as popular as ever. Their main Switzerland web site indicates everythings fine..... If you're really interested and want to check things, here's Serona's North American addy:
Investor Relations North America
Serono Inc.
One Technology Place
Rockland, MA 02370
USA
Tel: +1 781 681 2552
Fax:+1 781 681 2912

e-mail: [email protected]

 

[thelion2005]

Hey guys, it still looks like it' as popular as ever. Their main Switzerland web site indicates everythings fine..... If you're really interested and want to check things, here's Serona's North American addy:
Investor Relations North America
Serono Inc.
One Technology Place
Rockland, MA 02370
USA
Tel: +1 781 681 2552
Fax:+1 781 681 2912

e-mail: [email protected]

I'm glad to hear that.
I knew there was a limited supply of shelf stock in various inventories.
Good to see they are back in production.

 

[2sick]

The best HGH I have taken is simply Somatorm by PEL hands down. They supply a few clinics here in the US

 

[ed2005]

Hi Lion, good news for me is that I have found a source for Saizen again.... bad news is it's almost 6 times the cost of Jino's..... however I still believe that 1iu of Saizen is the equivalent of 4ius of Jinos (effect wise) so maybe its not that bad cost after all...
Hiope your well bro...
Ed

 

[thelion2005]

Hi Lion, good news for me is that I have found a source for Saizen again.... bad news is it's almost 6 times the cost of Jino's..... however I still believe that 1iu of Saizen is the equivalent of 4ius of Jinos (effect wise) so maybe its not that bad cost after all...
Hiope your well bro...
Ed

K message to you.

 

[Tinker]

Do you think that .20mg of HGH daily will give me any results? That is the total of 15 iu per month. This is the Norditropin NordiFlex. It is a Pen that you just dial in your dosage and pop a needle on the end.

 

[goaler]

Tinker,
I have been using hgh for about 30 days at 1 iu per day and have better dreams, nail texture, and generally a better mood. I should be seeing some effects in month two to six. The research I have done for anti-aging and some body composition changes, suggests a minimum of 1iu per day. I take it every day and do not use any other gear, so I'll keep you posted.

 

[Tinker]

Thanks Goaler,
I am on my second week of taking this everyday...and I do see results in things like my nails too. I go to sleep as soon as my head hits the pillow and when I wake up at 4am to go to the gym. I pop up bright eyed and bushy tailed ready to take on the day.

 

[goaler]

Yes, I feel the same. I guess we all wish for a quick fix, but with hgh, the prize comes after several months of use. I didn't mean to discredit using .5 iu per day, because I'm sure you will get results. I've read where you can start at .5 iu for a month and then go to 1 iu per day for a month and see how it is going. The bodybuilders use a little more to get the results they want, but I think for the amateur sports and work out enthusiast, I would stay between .5-2 iu's per day. (cost factor,and limit side effects) I have a script, and can ask doc questions, but these guys here know more than 99% of the doctors I think!!! I can't wait to see my progress in a few months!! I would be interested in yours as well. Wish I could get up at 4 !!!! Good luck Tinker

 

[Tinker]

Thanks, Allot and I wish I had a Scipt myself instead of online...I have committed to 3 months with this one complany if I keep seeing results I will go for another 3 months making it a total of 6 months. Keep me posted on your progress I am very interested.

 

[thelion2005]

HGH is terrific. I take 1.25 iu eod and have used this product close to 2 years.
I believe that together with HRT, reasonable dieting and exercise, it has helped roll back the clock.

 

[goaler]

HGH is terrific. I take 1.25 iu eod and have used this product close to 2 years.
I believe that together with HRT, reasonable dieting and exercise, it has helped roll back the clock.

Lion,
Has anyone ever discovered if Jin's(or others) are equal in potency as FDA approved gh?
Comparing an iu to an iu. I read a lot of people who claim that 1iu of domestic gh is equal to 2 iu or 4iu's of Jin, etc.(or Jin's are just as good, or better).Has anyone been able to prove the strength of gh from say Gen-Sci, with generic somatropin (my stuff with scrip from compounding pharmacy within the US) Just curious because of price differences. Anyone with any scientific info. please let me know. Thanks. Lion, what other HRT stuff do you take? If you don't mind sharing...

 

[GUARDSMASHER]

Lion,
Has anyone ever discovered if Jin's(or others) are equal in potency as FDA approved gh?
Comparing an iu to an iu. I read a lot of people who claim that 1iu of domestic gh is equal to 2 iu or 4iu's of Jin, etc.(or Jin's are just as good, or better).Has anyone been able to prove the strength of gh from say Gen-Sci, with generic somatropin (my stuff with scrip from compounding pharmacy within the US) Just curious because of price differences. Anyone with any scientific info. please let me know. Thanks. Lion, what other HRT stuff do you take? If you don't mind sharing...

Yes Lion I'd also love to hear about your HRT protocol. i did hrt through a clinic but they were robbing me blind. as I have access to Hygetropin kits i decide to go underground and put together my own HRT protocol. Do you run any HCG? Any AIs? If yes, please describe, if not, why not?

Thanks so much for sharing and educating us.

 

[1968Charger]

i want Serostim