Maintaining body weight on 500mg TestE...

[skyway]

I am about to embark on my first real cycle with test.
Stats:
6'2"
198
Cycle history: PaperTurin 40-50 mg/day 5 weeks
This cycle: TestE 500 mg/wk 10 weeks
Goals:
Maintain body weight (not muscle mass!), "converting" fat to muscle.
Question: What alterations to my diet and cardio routine should I make to reach my goal? Do I up calories or maintain same caloric intake? Do I increase cardio or keep it the same?
I have only been averaging 200 mg's protein per day off-cycle, so obviously that will need to hit at least 300 per day. Cardio has been next to none.
Thanks for your much appreciated advice!

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Only you can answer those questions bro. You know your body better then any of us do, so adjust your diet according to your goals. Diet is very much trial and error so you gotta find out what works best for you. Puting on muscle and losing body fat at the same time is very hard to do, even when using AAS. I personally would focus on doing one or the other, you'll be much happier with your results. E-mail or PM me if you have any questions and I'll do my best to help ya out

M18

 

[Alpine`]

converting fat to muscle? huh

You can change your body composition but there is no "conversion" going on. It is extremely hard to cut fat (at any great degree) and build muscle at the same time. Generally to gain noticeable amounts of muscle you need to bulk and take on a slight amount of fat. For body fat reduction you need to cut calories enough that it will be much harder to gain muscle. Most of the time AAS is used when cutting to hold onto existing muscle in a calorie deficit. I think you need to research the basics of nutrition and diet a bit. It is no stretch to say that diet is 70% of the game.

If you want to get leaner I would stick to a low carb diet w/ most of the carbs early in the day. Moderate fat w/ high EFA's (fish oil, flax..) and high protein. Stick to your workout and cardio. I would throw in one of the sesamin products (Avant comes to mind since they pioneered this and have been sourcing it longer than anyone) along with some kind of fat burner(generic EC, San Tight, Lipo-6, T-Rex). This along with the test should alter your overall composition in a favorable manner.

 

[Extra_Strong]

I am about to embark on my first real cycle with test.
Stats:
6'2"
198
Cycle history: PaperTurin 40-50 mg/day 5 weeks
This cycle: TestE 500 mg/wk 10 weeks
Goals:
Maintain body weight (not muscle mass!), "converting" fat to muscle.
Question: What alterations to my diet and cardio routine should I make to reach my goal? Do I up calories or maintain same caloric intake? Do I increase cardio or keep it the same?
I have only been averaging 200 mg's protein per day off-cycle, so obviously that will need to hit at least 300 per day. Cardio has been next to none.
Thanks for your much appreciated advice!

I hope you know that you can not convert fat to muscle 2 different things.

what is your body fat % now?

 

[Razorguns]

10 weeks? it'll take 4-6 weeks just for it to kick in leaving only 4 weeks or so to actually work out.

 

[skyway]

Right, that's why I put converting in quotation marks. I guess I was looking at it from the standpoint of most people using the above first cycle to gain around 20 lbs. My goal was to gain zero lbs through building muscle and losing the fat. I realize that in doing this, I will not be able to build as much muscle as I would if I pushed 100% in that direction. There is no question my diet could improve quite a bit. I'll do some more research and try to devise a diet that will help me meet my goals while being somewhat in line with what I enjoy eating...
Thanks again.

converting fat to muscle? huh

You can change your body composition but there is no "conversion" going on. It is extremely hard to cut fat (at any great degree) and build muscle at the same time. Generally to gain noticeable amounts of muscle you need to bulk and take on a slight amount of fat. For body fat reduction you need to cut calories enough that it will be much harder to gain muscle. Most of the time AAS is used when cutting to hold onto existing muscle in a calorie deficit. I think you need to research the basics of nutrition and diet a bit. It is no stretch to say that diet is 70% of the game.

If you want to get leaner I would stick to a low carb diet w/ most of the carbs early in the day. Moderate fat w/ high EFA's (fish oil, flax..) and high protein. Stick to your workout and cardio. I would throw in one of the sesamin products (Avant comes to mind since they pioneered this and have been sourcing it longer than anyone) along with some kind of fat burner(generic EC, San Tight, Lipo-6, T-Rex). This along with the test should alter your overall composition in a favorable manner.

 

[skyway]

Also, when is the peak time of this cycle for energy/sex drive/aggression? If it takes 4-6 weeks to "kick-in", does this mean my above levels will not really spike until 5-6 weeks in? I'm trying to schedule the cycle to coincide with the holidays in the best way for me personally....

Right, that's why I put converting in quotation marks. I guess I was looking at it from the standpoint of most people using the above first cycle to gain around 20 lbs. My goal was to gain zero lbs through building muscle and losing the fat. I realize that in doing this, I will not be able to build as much muscle as I would if I pushed 100% in that direction. There is no question my diet could improve quite a bit. I'll do some more research and try to devise a diet that will help me meet my goals while being somewhat in line with what I enjoy eating...
Thanks again.

 

[mendo]

This won't be your last cycle. So why not make it a bulker, and take advantage of the fact that you can gain a lot from your first real cycle? You can then cut later and end up way ahead of where you'd be by trying to swap fat for muscle. If your BF% is high...then cut first naturally...then bulk. Either way your first 10 weeker should be a bulker IMO.

 

[skyway]

This won't be your last cycle. So why not make it a bulker, and take advantage of the fact that you can gain a lot from your first real cycle? You can then cut later and end up way ahead of where you'd be by trying to swap fat for muscle. If your BF% is high...then cut first naturally...then bulk. Either way your first 10 weeker should be a bulker IMO.

I may follow that advice. You think I could do a bulker at this rate without increasing bodyfat?

 

[mendo]

I may follow that advice. You think I could do a bulker at this rate without increasing bodyfat?

If your goal is to end up with the most muscle with the lowest bodyfat, then I think you'd be best off doing a fairly clean bulk...yet keep calories high. Eat brown rice, oatmeal, natural peanutbutter, lean proteins - in large quantities...no krispy kremes, whoppers, etc. You should still be willing to gain SOME fat during your bulker though. Its not that hard to lose it later, and its much easier to put on muscle with calories high.

 

[skyway]

If your goal is to end up with the most muscle with the lowest bodyfat, then I think you'd be best off doing a fairly clean bulk...yet keep calories high. Eat brown rice, oatmeal, natural peanutbutter, lean proteins - in large quantities...no krispy kremes, whoppers, etc. You should still be willing to gain SOME fat during your bulker though. Its not that hard to lose it later, and its much easier to put on muscle with calories high.

Cool. Actually, I could clean my diet up from its current state while increasing protein and cals. Perhaps with a cleaner diet than what I presently have, I will end up OK in the fat department.

So, with an ultimate goal of 200 lbs, what should my total cals be? 3500 or so?
Thanks again!

 

[mendo]

Cool. Actually, I could clean my diet up from its current state while increasing protein and cals. Perhaps with a cleaner diet than what I presently have, I will end up OK in the fat department.

So, with an ultimate goal of 200 lbs, what should my total cals be? 3500 or so?
Thanks again!

Its hard to say. Everyone's different and you're going to have to experiment a bit with the cals. For some it would be 3000-4000 for others it would be 7000-8000. Just don't be too worried about gaining a little fat in this cycle. If you start gaining fat cut back a bit...otherwise keep the cals as high as you can. You only get one first cycle...go for size bro. You can cut later.

Also, you might want to throw some arimidex in there at .5mg/day to keep bloat down, etc.

 

[DieselGunz]

Great advice Mendo