M1T shut me down!!

[Ffactor]

After two cycles and PCT with Nolvadex I just got my blood tested and my test levels are 33ng/L!!!!! No sex drive whatsoever, my wife's way pissed off. Flip side is my Dr. gave me a script for Test Enanthate, yeah baby, I'm psyched.

 

[Mr. Black]

You do realize the test enth will not improve your current condition? Ok Maybe it will short therm it will but thats it...I'd rather get my own natural test going again.

 

[slat1]

I tell people all the time prohormones are worse than the real deal.
Mr. Black is right. You are going to need some HCG and Clomid to get your boys running again!

 

[oatmeal933]

First of all is it ng/L or ng/dL???

33ng/L (which is what you wrote) is equal to 330ng/dL since a decilitre is 1/10 of a litre.

In this case this is a bit low, but not shut-down as you call it.

 

[Ulter]

You're not shut down. Shut down is 0. Your HPTA is inhibited and running poorly from the sewer sludge you used, M1T. Use the enanthate in good health.

 

[poantrex]

After two cycles and PCT with Nolvadex I just got my blood tested and my test levels are 33ng/L!!!!! No sex drive whatsoever, my wife's way pissed off. Flip side is my Dr. gave me a script for Test Enanthate, yeah baby, I'm psyched.

Clomid works much better than nolvadex for raisining endogenous testosterone production. There are studies confirming that it reverses steroid induced HPTA inhibition, whereas there are none for nolvadex. If you want to get your natural test going, use clomid at 100mg a day for several months. It will USUALLY work.

 

[Mattlke]

33ng/L (which is what you wrote) is equal to 330ng/dL since a decilitre is 1/10 of a litre.

Hum it seems to me that 33ng/L is equal to 3.3ng/dL

(33ng/L = 33ng/10dL = (33/10)ng/dL = 3.3ng/dL)

 

[Ffactor]

Sorry it's 33 ng/dl.

 

[Ffactor]

You're not shut down. Shut down is 0. Your HPTA is inhibited and running poorly from the sewer sludge you used, M1T. Use the enanthate in good health.

Any thoughts on whether I should start the Test now or try a clomid/HCG combo first.

 

[Mr. Black]

Read this thread...might help

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=184506

 

[SlimJim300]

Out of curiosity, what dose of enanthate did he prescribe?

 

[Ffactor]

Out of curiosity, what dose of enanthate did he prescribe?

200mg/week.

 

[Triple J]

Bro how about detailing the dosages and lengths of your cycles, time off, and PCT.

M1T is a very strong steroid. You should consider a full PCT including HCG, and either adex or clomid. For eliminating the estrogen inhibition of HPTA you may want to consider adex since you have already tried an estrogen blocker in the form of nolva.

 

[Ffactor]

Bro how about detailing the dosages and lengths of your cycles, time off, and PCT.

M1T is a very strong steroid. You should consider a full PCT including HCG, and either adex or clomid. For eliminating the estrogen inhibition of HPTA you may want to consider adex since you have already tried an estrogen blocker in the form of nolva.

40 mg/day for two weeks and then two weeks off followed by 40 mg/day for two weeks. PCT with Nolva at 50mg/day for one month.

 

[poantrex]

Hum it seems to me that 33ng/L is equal to 3.3ng/dL

(33ng/L = 33ng/10dL = (33/10)ng/dL = 3.3ng/dL)

Good LORD dude. That is fuckin unreal, I have never EVER heard of someone with test levels that low following steroid use. 200's is common, but 33? Jesus.

 

[Mr. Black]

Good LORD dude. That is fuckin unreal, I have never EVER heard of someone with test levels that low following steroid use. 200's is common, but 33? Jesus.

I once hit 50 after a deca/winstrol cycle

 

[poantrex]

I once hit 50 after a deca/winstrol cycle

I felt like a little girl at 298ng/dl. After a cycle. I cannot imagine what 33 or 50 ng/dl would feel like.

 

[DMI]

This is no surprise that it inhibited your HPTA function. M1T is a steroid: A potent one, a toxic one and a shit one.

 

[Dieselgoku23]

Some of you Bros dont understand, M1T was banned for reason lol !!! that stuff shuts you down hard!!!! and for me specially not saying everybody works better then DBOL and no bloat!!! you should go to full PCT. I'm currently taking M1T been on for a week already 25mg ED and my balls are getting shrunk also doing some Test E and EQ but for real M1T is not those fake ANDRO POPPERS is the real deal real Steroid. And Yes NOLVA=Gyno remover prevention CLOMID= Brings your twins back and start shooting loads!! I sugest you do HCG too

 

[Anakin]

My test levels were below 100 after a primo/low test/dbol cycle, but it recovered beatifully with clomid.

 

[hugeman1]

M1T will shut you down hard

 

[Bozwell]

Ive read some were that m1t has progestorone/prolactin(spelling) issuse that can cause hard recovery try some dostinex it might help

 

[Ffactor]

More info on Dostinex please.

 

[Bozwell]

More info on Dostinex please.

I do not know the exact science behind it but Ill try and help,
dostinex lowers levels of prolatin and progesterone and frees up more test ,its normaly used when on a deca or tren cycle to aid recovery and avoid gyno caused by progesterone build up. I think the dosage is somthing like 0.5mg e4d but I could be wrong
hope this helps

 

[Ffactor]

I do not know the exact science behind it but Ill try and help,
dostinex lowers levels of prolatin and progesterone and frees up more test ,its normaly used when on a deca or tren cycle to aid recovery and avoid gyno caused by progesterone build up. I think the dosage is somthing like 0.5mg e4d but I could be wrong
hope this helps

Thanks.

 

[the_only_sepe]

what was your results from this cycle?

 

[Ffactor]

what was your results from this cycle?

Gained 6 lbs.

 

[Ffactor]

Just an update, I've been on Test Enanthate 200mg/week for six weeks now and my sex drive is back and I feel great!

 

[blut wump]

Are you planning to stay on forever or manage a pct to come of the test E?

 

[Ffactor]

Are you planning to stay on forever or manage a pct to come of the test E?

Will stay on forever.