Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Few questions i was hoping someone could help with. First off, is this actually classed as a steroid? Seems pretty unclear from what iv read about it, many consider it a pro hormone whilst others insist its a steroid. Anyway, regardless fo what it is or is'nt, what pct would i need after a 4 week cycle on this say at 10-20mg a day???
M1T & PCT
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solidspine
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It is a prohormone so you will not need any pct.
All pro-hormones are essentially steroids -- really lousy ones.
M1T was another generation of PH's and were titled "pro-steroids" but for no reason other than marketing appeal. It's certainly better than the crap Patrick Arnold inflicted on unsuspecting victims, but it still has major drawbacks. Lethargy and loss of libido for starters.
And yes, since M1T is suppressive you most definetely would need PCT but could probably get away with just a natty anti-e such as CytogenX, Dermacrine or protein factory's "POST CYCLE."
M1T was another generation of PH's and were titled "pro-steroids" but for no reason other than marketing appeal. It's certainly better than the crap Patrick Arnold inflicted on unsuspecting victims, but it still has major drawbacks. Lethargy and loss of libido for starters.
And yes, since M1T is suppressive you most definetely would need PCT but could probably get away with just a natty anti-e such as CytogenX, Dermacrine or protein factory's "POST CYCLE."
gjohnson5
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He's amplifying things a bit. I used to take legal gear's m1t , which I believe was 15mills. I had liver damage and yes it did make you letharic. Acne is a good possibility , even though I didn't get any
Aside from the fat gain , the strength gains were actually pretty good. But yes there are lots of sides and prolactin was an issue while on this stuff
Aside from the fat gain , the strength gains were actually pretty good. But yes there are lots of sides and prolactin was an issue while on this stuff
Unit 2005 said:
thanks.
Just found an article on it:-
Typical side effects of anabolic steroid use include: Gynocomastia, water retention, disruption of the testicular axis, distended stomach, male pattern baldness, and acne. Users of Methyl-1-Tesosterone have reported none of these commonly seen side effects. This is, in part, due to the fact that Methyl-1-Tesosterone will not convert to estrogen.
A common side effect of taking Methyl-1-Tesosterone is lethargy. Increased aggressiveness has also been noted, as has an increase in blood pressure and decreases in appetite. Typically, these side effects are dose related.
During a cycle of this substance, users should avoid alcohol and other stimulants and depressants, as these substances can place additional stresses on the liver.
No formal dosing guidelines have yet been established, and it is therefore best to strictly adhere to label directions. However, anecdote suggests that it is best to begin with a test dose of 5-10mg. Users have reported that best gains are noticed when taking doses between 20 to 40 milligrams. Cycles of this product should continue for no longer than four week periods followed by an equal amount of time to allow for system cleansing. At this time, supplementing with liver detoxifiers like milk thistle would be ideal, as would the consumption of an anti-estrogen supplement such as 6-OXO by ErgoPharm.
Just found an article on it:-
Typical side effects of anabolic steroid use include: Gynocomastia, water retention, disruption of the testicular axis, distended stomach, male pattern baldness, and acne. Users of Methyl-1-Tesosterone have reported none of these commonly seen side effects. This is, in part, due to the fact that Methyl-1-Tesosterone will not convert to estrogen.
A common side effect of taking Methyl-1-Tesosterone is lethargy. Increased aggressiveness has also been noted, as has an increase in blood pressure and decreases in appetite. Typically, these side effects are dose related.
During a cycle of this substance, users should avoid alcohol and other stimulants and depressants, as these substances can place additional stresses on the liver.
No formal dosing guidelines have yet been established, and it is therefore best to strictly adhere to label directions. However, anecdote suggests that it is best to begin with a test dose of 5-10mg. Users have reported that best gains are noticed when taking doses between 20 to 40 milligrams. Cycles of this product should continue for no longer than four week periods followed by an equal amount of time to allow for system cleansing. At this time, supplementing with liver detoxifiers like milk thistle would be ideal, as would the consumption of an anti-estrogen supplement such as 6-OXO by ErgoPharm.
Unit 2005 said:
Sounds like you want to do it no matter what even though some knowledgable bros are telling you straight that it sucks, so why are you asking?
6OXO is garbage too. Have you been hanging around the bodybuilding.com boards? That's where make believe scientists lead cluless kids around by the nose. Stop that. If you want to play in the big leauges, listen to what the vets have to say.
Dude, either get real gear or use a good natty supp stack like UNLEASHED and BIG BLAST. What's the point of using something that is toxic, estrogenic, suppressive and makes you tired? Just because it's classified as a steroid?
swole
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ugh, prohormone discussion.
Look, I think they're fine for beginners who want to know what it's like to be on a cycle. I made great gains with them in the past. I planned those cycles out in more detail than some people do with their pinning ones. Would I do them again? No.
Also, I DO NOT recommend taking M1T by itself. Stack it with test. You will be lethargic if anything. AND, if you don't know how or what I mean, please do more research. Start here:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7031376&postcount=14
Bah. Just throw the shit out...it really is garbage and this is coming from someone with positive prohormone results.
Look, I think they're fine for beginners who want to know what it's like to be on a cycle. I made great gains with them in the past. I planned those cycles out in more detail than some people do with their pinning ones. Would I do them again? No.
Also, I DO NOT recommend taking M1T by itself. Stack it with test. You will be lethargic if anything. AND, if you don't know how or what I mean, please do more research. Start here:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7031376&postcount=14
Bah. Just throw the shit out...it really is garbage and this is coming from someone with positive prohormone results.
somebody ban this little pussy until hes ready to run real gear?! lol bit harsh dont you think....im not even going to lower myself to that bullshit. But was'nt aware that unless you use drugs you are a pussy. wow, some statement there.
Im just interested thats all, after reading what most people have said on this i probably wont touch it. Doesnt sound worth it to be honest.
I am new to AS, sure, but not new to training. far from it in fact. Im just trying to find out as much as i can before i decide what to take. Nothing wrong with that is there? Iv read an awful lot and came across this stuff and there doesnt seem to be as much information on it as other stuff....from what i read it appeared pretty good. Many articles and reports from users saying 10lbs on only a 4 week cycle with little sides. But obviously people on here have had bad experiences with it and im glad iv asked what i have because i feel more informed now than i did yesterday. Still, you can never be sure about whos tellin the truth on the internet, for all we know anyone on here could be a skinny little dweep passing out advice as if they are mr o.
Anyway, thanks to all who have replied and id appreciate any furher advice on AS use. Im looking to gain strength and size, obviously the safest option with minimal sides would be what im after.
Im just interested thats all, after reading what most people have said on this i probably wont touch it. Doesnt sound worth it to be honest.
I am new to AS, sure, but not new to training. far from it in fact. Im just trying to find out as much as i can before i decide what to take. Nothing wrong with that is there? Iv read an awful lot and came across this stuff and there doesnt seem to be as much information on it as other stuff....from what i read it appeared pretty good. Many articles and reports from users saying 10lbs on only a 4 week cycle with little sides. But obviously people on here have had bad experiences with it and im glad iv asked what i have because i feel more informed now than i did yesterday. Still, you can never be sure about whos tellin the truth on the internet, for all we know anyone on here could be a skinny little dweep passing out advice as if they are mr o.
Anyway, thanks to all who have replied and id appreciate any furher advice on AS use. Im looking to gain strength and size, obviously the safest option with minimal sides would be what im after.
swole
Well-known member
agreed bor
i think the best way to take M1T, if you must, is to jumpstart a cycle of test with it
if i was starting a 16 week test cycle, i'd run 10mg of M1T WK 1-2, take week 3 and 4 off, then run 20mg of M1T during week 5 and 6
there's no doubt you will see amazing gains, it's very potent, just has harsh sides that I wouldn't recommend unless you have a shitload of other supps on hand for blood pressure, anxiety and acne
i think the best way to take M1T, if you must, is to jumpstart a cycle of test with it
if i was starting a 16 week test cycle, i'd run 10mg of M1T WK 1-2, take week 3 and 4 off, then run 20mg of M1T during week 5 and 6
there's no doubt you will see amazing gains, it's very potent, just has harsh sides that I wouldn't recommend unless you have a shitload of other supps on hand for blood pressure, anxiety and acne
Big_Joe
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Not trying to highjack the thread but I wonder if there is a way to cleave off the methyl group from the 1-test. It's the methyl group that is the cause of most of the liver problems so if you could get rid of it and then made it into an injectable oil you might actually have something. Any thoughts??
airsmith2k
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lol u guys make m1t sound like it has more sides then the real stuff.....i never took it so maybe it does i wouldnt know.... everyone i knew that took it loved it and had gains from it
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