lunesta for sleep on cycle

[michaeltt]

hey bros, anyoen have experience with lunesta? how does it differ from a hypnotic like ambien? been having trouble sleeping latly and wanted to try something new. any help would be appreciated. usually take some xanax and melatonin and this combo seems to work well.

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[lurcan]

hey bros, anyoen have experience with lunesta? how does it differ from a hypnotic like ambien? been having trouble sleeping latly and wanted to try something new. any help would be appreciated. usually take some xanax and melatonin and this combo seems to work well.

Mods feel free to move this to a more appropriate forum if need be.

I use Lunesta, especially when on Tren. I'm not groggy in the morning with L like I am with A. Also, I get memory loss with Am. L does that too, but to a lesser degree. L is not habit forming and Ambien is said to be. Go with L if it works for you.

 

[buckwheat1]

I use Lunesta, especially when on Tren. I'm not groggy in the morning with L like I am with A. Also, I get memory loss with Am. L does that too, but to a lesser degree. L is not habit forming and Ambien is said to be. Go with L if it works for you.[/QUOTE

I tried a few Lunestas. I don't see much difference between them and ambiens.

The only thing I found weird about Lunesta was that the next morning I drank some milk and I at first I thought there was something wrong with the milk. Later I found out that one of the side effects is a strange taste - metallic if I remember right.

I don't take them enough to be concerned but the fact that it is not habit forming (or at least that is what they say) should be a plus.

 

[markshark]

ambien knocks me out and wakes me up in only a few hours and i cant get back to sleep. lunesta takes longer to put me to sleep but i sleep a little longer. i got dependent on the shit though and now im comin off of them and not sleeping at ALL. fuckin 4 days straight of no sleep.

 

[michaeltt]

ambien knocks me out and wakes me up in only a few hours and i cant get back to sleep. lunesta takes longer to put me to sleep but i sleep a little longer. i got dependent on the shit though and now im comin off of them and not sleeping at ALL. fuckin 4 days straight of no sleep.

ambien does the same thing to me. Knocks me out for 4 hours and then i wake up and cant go back to sleep. thats why i was wary of getting lunesta.

thanks for the replys everyone

 

[Slyder190]

Ambien was a god-send for me. But I hear the stories of guys awaking after 4 hours or so. Never had that problem myself. Xanax knocks me out like sledgehammer to the head would. It's like guaranteed sleep in a bottle. although I'd be afraid to use it regularly.

 

[markshark]

yeah i started using xanax 1mg's to help me sleep when i came home from school last january. was using it regularly and within a few months was up to 3 mg at night and went off cold turkey. shit works but it aint fun comin off. in my experiences all that shit should be used sparingly. ive found lunesta to be the most helpful though and the easiest to come off of.

 

[Advisor_x]

Ideally will be not using anything, but some of us gear affects our sleeping patterns,

Used Xanax but next morning need at least a good meal and some coffee to clear the webs, then was prescribed Ambien which has worked good for me, but as soon my cycle is done try to get my sleeping patter to normal, usually with more hard work....

Not tryed lunesta yet........

 

[sparetire]

i thought the same thing when i saw the new tv ad for lunesta. To me, lunesta and ambien seem to work in the same way. I have been using ambiens now for almost a year and they are a god send. After comparing the side effects between lunesta and ambien, they seem relatively the same, except for that weird taste thing. Sometimes, when I am at the peak of my cycle, I fall asleep and wake up about 6 hours later, usually around 5 am until my gear levels lower in the blood stream - almost at pct time.

What I usually do, and this will work - when you wake up 4-6 hours later, get another ambien pill and bite off or cut with a pill cutter only 25% of the pill and swallow it without water and go lay down. I guarantee you will fall right back asleep for another 4 hours. If you take too much of the pill like half of it, you'll still feel groggy when you normally wake up. You can use a pill cutter and precut a few pills in 1/3s also, that works well.

 

[michaeltt]

hey guys, i ended up taking a lunesta the other night. I think it worked much like ambien. i actually felt groggy and intoxicated on it much like ambien. Had trouble falling asleep, and woke up early and couldnt go back to sleep. For the guy who takes ambien and it doesnt work well, do you have trouble sleeping when you drink too? i totally quit drinking because it messes up my sleep so much. i wonder if our brain chemicals work in the same way since ambien doesnt work well for either of us.

 

[sparetire]

drinking will affect your sleep even when you are a normal sleeper. Sometimes, I have a few beers on the weekend, I wait until most of the buzz is gone, then take the ambien. I usually sleep better for some reason - straight thru for atleast 7 hours. Try what I do, take a 1/4 or 1/3 of the ambien when you wake up and sleep for 4 more hours. either way, when you are on cycle and your blood levels are peaking it's hard for anyone to sleep. A friend of mine gave me 10 30mg ristorils and there's nothing quite like it - i only took about 1/2 of it, and it felt like natural sleep - no grogginess. took a full 30 and man did i sleep! (but with grogginess.) I get the memory problems off and on with ambien, just short term crap, but no grogginess if I sleep 8 hours. :0 good luck to man..

 

[michaeltt]

drinking will affect your sleep even when you are a normal sleeper. Sometimes, I have a few beers on the weekend, I wait until most of the buzz is gone, then take the ambien. I usually sleep better for some reason - straight thru for atleast 7 hours. Try what I do, take a 1/4 or 1/3 of the ambien when you wake up and sleep for 4 more hours. either way, when you are on cycle and your blood levels are peaking it's hard for anyone to sleep. A friend of mine gave me 10 30mg ristorils and there's nothing quite like it - i only took about 1/2 of it, and it felt like natural sleep - no grogginess. took a full 30 and man did i sleep! (but with grogginess.) I get the memory problems off and on with ambien, just short term crap, but no grogginess if I sleep 8 hours. :0 good luck to man..

hey man, thanks for the advice. I do that from time to time with xanax or benedryl. ill take a little bit in the morning to let me sleep longer. Ive never taken ristorils, Ive tried trazadone, which didnt work too well for me.. My insomnia used to be pretty bad even before i used AAS. actually its gotten a litle better since ive been cycling.. but anyways, trazadone made me groggy and lazy but didnt put me to sleep.. Ativan works like a charm the times ive used it. Xanax seems to work the best for me right now. thanks again

 

[dr0832]

I have had insomnia for 8 years. I take 2mg of Lunesta now. Contrary to what docs have said, I believe this is just as addictive as ambien an should not be used for more then a few days at a time. I have been taking it for 3 months and I think I am addicted. When I don't take it I can't sleep ever, however I never was able to sleep before I started taking it, so it doesn't really matter. i don;t feel that great in the morning. The funny thing about lunesta is that people talk about this nasty metallic taste however I have had this taste in my mouth when i wake up for as long as I can remember, which is weird. I used to take ambien but I took it for 3 years and got addicted. Ambien worked better then lunesta. Xanax works great but I wake up after 4 hours. I actually think I need to find some xanax.

 

[plifter48]

I been taking ambien on and off for 3 years. I work the 7pm to 7am shift so I need to get to sleep fast. Now I have to take 4 of the 10mg ambien and 2 benadryl just to get 4 or 5 hours of sleep. I'm sure I must be knocking the shit out of my liver especially when taking oral AS.

 

[criffer]

I completelt agree with this guy, the effects are like ambien but leaves a wierd taste in your mouth esp when drinking someting

I use Lunesta, especially when on Tren. I'm not groggy in the morning with L like I am with A. Also, I get memory loss with Am. L does that too, but to a lesser degree. L is not habit forming and Ambien is said to be. Go with L if it works for you.[/QUOTE

I tried a few Lunestas. I don't see much difference between them and ambiens.

The only thing I found weird about Lunesta was that the next morning I drank some milk and I at first I thought there was something wrong with the milk. Later I found out that one of the side effects is a strange taste - metallic if I remember right.

I don't take them enough to be concerned but the fact that it is not habit forming (or at least that is what they say) should be a plus.

 

[kraze]

melatonin knocks me the fock out! i can sleep 12 hrs. no prob. i have to empty some of the capsule out.

 

[markshark]

I been taking ambien on and off for 3 years. I work the 7pm to 7am shift so I need to get to sleep fast. Now I have to take 4 of the 10mg ambien and 2 benadryl just to get 4 or 5 hours of sleep. I'm sure I must be knocking the shit out of my liver especially when taking oral AS.

damn man you sound JUST like me. i have been out of sleep meds for over a week now and didnt sleep for like 5 days straight, had to take the week off of lifting because of it. i was to the point where i needed 40 mg of ambien to fall asleep, and mixed it with like 5 simply sleep pills to stay asleep, which was only about 4 hours MAX. then id wake up and take 2 more ambiens o fall back to sleep, then would wake after 2 hours, and sometimes would take another 1 or 2 to finish my night and get 8 hours. i felt like shit during the day, really unrested, even though i slept. after this last week of hell (it was bad, I lost about 20 lbs on my bench press) i slept naturally last night with some melatonin 6 mg. i would normally go through 30 ambiens in 4 days, then 30 lunestas in about 10 days. it was bad.

 

[Big_Joe]

I have a lot of sleep problems also. What I found was a good pain killer works best. I have tried ambien and lunesta but they didn't work long enough. I now take 15mg morphine and sleep all night long. I think that for a lot of us we have driven our pain threshold way up so we don't notice how much pain we are in. When I cut the pain I sleep like a baby. Another thing is vicodin doesn't put me to sleep, only morphine. Also I am well aware of the habit forming nature of morphine. I tried a lot of sleep meds, with my doctors help, and only the morphine does the job.

 

[Indy]

Ambien was a god-send for me. But I hear the stories of guys awaking after 4 hours or so. Never had that problem myself. Xanax knocks me out like sledgehammer to the head would. It's like guaranteed sleep in a bottle. although I'd be afraid to use it regularly.

I LOVE ambien, would never try 4x10mg though, I would forget what day it was.

 

[plifter48]

Definately a bitch to have so much trouble getting sleep. It is kind of funny though on the Ambien. I pop 4 of them and they don't seem to do anything for an hour or so. Then I start to make something to eat and the next thing I know I wake up on the couch and can't remember if i ate or not, then I see the dirty dishes so I must have ate. Damn if I can remember making it though. LOL

 

[markshark]

yeah i took 3 once and they didnt put me to sleep so i took 3 more. by then it was 3 am. I dont remember sleeping but i remember looking at the clock and it was 7:15 am. its goofy shit. and one time i took it i though a roll of paper towels was a clown so i beat the shit out of it and fell asleep on the floor.

 

[Advisor_x]

LMAO.........think that 3 tabs have a bounce effect will keep you amnesic for a few hours......

Nothing like a hard work day.............but undersdand the worries about bills and work (or school)......

yeah i took 3 once and they didnt put me to sleep so i took 3 more. by then it was 3 am. I dont remember sleeping but i remember looking at the clock and it was 7:15 am. its goofy shit. and one time i took it i though a roll of paper towels was a clown so i beat the shit out of it and fell asleep on the floor.