Lumberg - 1-test Ethergels Dosage Question

[ProteinFiend]

100mg 1-t? That will do NOTHING to you... your better off without it because you'll just surpress yourself.

What I do is take 2 caps (50mg) or 3 caps (75mg) every 3 hrs I'm awake. I try not to go over 300mg/day. What this does is stabilize your hormone levels so you won't feel the hormonal ups and downs and your hair won't fall out. The half life of 1-t in the body is about 6 hours, and peaks at around 3... Thus I try to keep a good peak throughout the day so I have optimal hormone levels for growth.

As far the 4-ad, start off with what the bottle recommends then go up if you need to.

I've gained around 7 lbs in 10 days some of which is water (creatine). I have 3 bottles so I have about another 18 days left. MY last cycle of 1-ad was ok but I think i was too conservative so i didnt see many gains.

Now I'm eating like a horse and taking a bunch of those pills and I have my post cycle all planned out

And just remember, you spent your money on this stuff so take advantage of it by using ENOUGH of it, and eating a lot, dirnking a lot of water and taking neccessary precautions during and after the cycle.

 

[Flapjack1976]

That sounds like a lot more than others have done, and they have gotten good results with it.

I'm actually taking 150mg a day now, so that'll make one bottle last 15 days. I ordered another to finish up the month.

With the 4AD, that's $141 after shipping. If you're using that much, you must have a lot of extra money. Maybe you can buy me a few bottles!

 

[Lumberg]

I think I'll try the transdermal for my next cycle...

Can you tell me a little about the Super One+? Do I remember you saying it made you a little bloaty?

The 900mg of the 4-AD has done nothing as far as bloating, but it has only been a week. We'll see... next time, I'll start off slower. Since I'm already at 900mg, I don't want to drop down unless I see a problem. What are other signs of gyno other than itchy/puffy nipples and bloating?

Who makes the cheap 1-AD you were talking about? I'm sure you're comfortable that it is a quality product.

If you don't mind answering one more question, can you explain how 1-AD has an advantage over ether 1-test due to the first liver pass? I guess I don't understand it fully... I did a search, but can't seem to find anything.

Yes it made me bloaty. I don't wait to get itchy nips, if I get very bloaty I back off dosages. The 1-AD is from a friend of mine, he has a bunch of extra bottles he can sell me at a discount.

1-AD is the prohormone of 1-test. It does nothing, or very little, by itself. When it gets to your liver, poof! an enzyme turns it into one test.

Now when the one test comes back to the liver it's another story, but the point is all blood goes through your liver after passign by your digestive tract. But only some blood in general circulation goes through your liver every time around. Get it?

 

[ProteinFiend]

That sounds like a lot more than others have done, and they have gotten good results with it.

I'm actually taking 150mg a day now, so that'll make one bottle last 15 days. I ordered another to finish up the month.

With the 4AD, that's $141 after shipping. If you're using that much, you must have a lot of extra money. Maybe you can buy me a few bottles!

Oh let me correct myself... I was just using the 1-t... I'm up about 10 lbs including water and im through 1 1/4 bottles... I have 1 3/4 left. I just hope the gains keep coming.... sucks I have this damn strep throat...

 

[Shark01]

Shark01:

I'm curious about the new delivery system. Where'd you read about this?

Saw it first on anabolic minds but other places have threads on it too. Some very experienced PH and steroid guys are getting awesome gains from it. Looks like we finally have a legal PH that is on par with low dose oral steroids

 

[Flapjack1976]

Here's an update...

I'm still taking the 150mg 1-test/900mg 4-AD.

ProteinFiend: So you're saying you are not taking the ethergels, only the regular 1-test?

Lumberg: I don't seem to be having any side effects at this point. The first day, I had a little heart pounding and shortness of breath, but that went away during the second day. I had lethargy until yesterday. I could barely stay awake, let alone work... but yesterday was awesome as far as wakefullness goes.

Unfortunately, that didn't translate to any gains at the gym. I had plenty of intensity yesterday, but no gains on biceps from before I started the 1-test/4-AD cycle.

Today's chest workout was a little better, I went up 10 lbs on the flat bench press (175 to 185), and 5 lbs on incline dumbell flies (65 lb dumbells up to 70 lb dumbells).

The thing that kinda pisses me off, is these could just be normal gains. I know everyone has said most of their gains are in the 3rd and 4th weeks, so I'll keep it up. But honestly, I don't seem to have changed any.

My weight has only gone up slightly, if at all. I've been fluctuating between 160 and 163. For about a week before I started the 1-test, I was at a steady 160. Now I'm 162. I can't tell if it's a fluctuation or a gain.

I'll have to wait until the cycle is over to say whether or not it was worth it. Typically, I have a high tolerance to drugs of any kind. I've been considering going up to eight 25mg caps of 1-test per day for a total of 200mg instead of 150mg...

What do you think?

 

[Flapjack1976]

Saw it first on anabolic minds but other places have threads on it too. Some very experienced PH and steroid guys are getting awesome gains from it. Looks like we finally have a legal PH that is on par with low dose oral steroids

After what you said, I did some reading on the methyl-1-test. It seems they would be chemically harsh on your liver compared to ethergels...

Lumberg: Where is the cheapest place to get the Super One+? I can't seem to find any place that carries it. Would you go with that over 1-AD? I'm considering both for my next cycle...

 

[ProteinFiend]

Flap, i am taking the 1-t ethergels by molecular at 250-300mg/day. I am NOT taking 4-ad.

 

[ProteinFiend]

oh... and I take it divided up every 3 hours im awake to keep hormone levels constant....

try that vpx 1-t.... i heard they make a quality product.

 

[Sir Foxx]

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You can't beat BDC's 1-Test/4-AD transdermals.