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nsashbl01

nsashbl01

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Just got the results from my first blood test. I should have done a baseline before my first cycle, but didn't. I ran prrimo/var for 12 weeks and have been off for almost 2 months. I did clomid and post cycle, then unleashed for a few weeks. I quit the unleashed because I got acne from it. I have been the same weight for 2 months, and feel fine.

My blood work showed normal except for my total test, which was 222! I'm 34, haven't drank in over 8 months, eat clean and train frequently. I've been in pretty good shape for at least 15 years and have allways felt the same.

I'm wondering if I allways had low test? My sex drive has allways been moderate at best. I allways just figured I was picky for not wanting to fuck anything that walked! I have allways gotten sore easily. I recover well, but do get pretty sore when I should have adapted to the stress. This applies to lifting, sports, any thing physical.

I'd appreciate some input from some vet's. I can give more details of my bllod test results if needed.

Thanks....
 
Welcome to the low test club. You need to seek advice from an endo just to make sure you dont have a Petuitary tumor or something. I doubt it. You could have elevated prolactin. A cycle of Vitex might help stimulate LH and get rid of some prolactin.

You can either live with low test and try to naturally increase or go the TRT route.

Some people would say do another cycle of clomid and then run some herbs like tonkat ali / avena / tribilius.

There are a ton of ways to increase natural test. Also, if your feeling the same as pre-cycle maybe you have chronic low test and TRT would be a good idea. Good luck bro. TW
 
Thanks for the input TW. I think I'll see what endo's are on my ins plan. I'm guessing I should not tell the doc about the Primo, and just say I took 1AD or something. I did have a cold when I was tested, could that make a difference?
 
bro im in the same boat came off cycle and test is 245, Ive been of since end of sept. and hoping it will come back by itself Im waiting it out a couple more months to see I started unleashed last week and seems like sex drive is up, ive always been the same as you with sex and recover the same, however im only 23 and always run clomid and hcg pct, except first cycle which was just deca which I think is what fucked me up no pct either then went straight in next cycle, I should of also got levels test before but to late now, my advice is to do what im doing take some time off train and do everything else see if it comes back in a couple months maybe you just need a little long off (ive seen worse), if anything try some more unleashed it must be working if your gettin acne, acne is caused by an inbalance of harmones which may be a good thing (it might be trying to raise it) so go with that im going back after im done my bottle of unleashed to see.
 
Another member of the low test club here and I'm 30 years old. My sex drive has been poor for a couple of years now. I tried all the herbals but nothing worked for me. I'm now on HRT and feeling great.
I'm not sure, but it is possible my problem is genetic as my dad's T levels were the second lowest my HRT doc had ever seen.
 
nsashbl01 said:
Just got the results from my first blood test. I should have done a baseline before my first cycle, but didn't. I ran prrimo/var for 12 weeks and have been off for almost 2 months. I did clomid and post cycle, then unleashed for a few weeks. I quit the unleashed because I got acne from it. I have been the same weight for 2 months, and feel fine.

My blood work showed normal except for my total test, which was 222! I'm 34, haven't drank in over 8 months, eat clean and train frequently. I've been in pretty good shape for at least 15 years and have allways felt the same.

I'm wondering if I allways had low test? My sex drive has allways been moderate at best. I allways just figured I was picky for not wanting to fuck anything that walked! I have allways gotten sore easily. I recover well, but do get pretty sore when I should have adapted to the stress. This applies to lifting, sports, any thing physical.

I'd appreciate some input from some vet's. I can give more details of my bllod test results if needed.

Thanks....
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Best of Luck. I'm going for an MRI on my pituitary gland today. I did a basline before my cycle and test was 400. Two monthes after it was 90 and then when the endo Dr. took it it was 45! I did 5-6 weeks of low dose (50mg ED) of clomid and I feel much better. The Dr. still wants me to go through with the tests. And, oh yea, don't tell him about your AAS usage.
 
nsashbl01 said:
Just got the results from my first blood test. I should have done a baseline before my first cycle, but didn't. I ran prrimo/var for 12 weeks and have been off for almost 2 months. I did clomid and post cycle, then unleashed for a few weeks. I quit the unleashed because I got acne from it. I have been the same weight for 2 months, and feel fine.

My blood work showed normal except for my total test, which was 222! I'm 34, haven't drank in over 8 months, eat clean and train frequently. I've been in pretty good shape for at least 15 years and have allways felt the same.

I'm wondering if I allways had low test? My sex drive has allways been moderate at best. I allways just figured I was picky for not wanting to fuck anything that walked! I have allways gotten sore easily. I recover well, but do get pretty sore when I should have adapted to the stress. This applies to lifting, sports, any thing physical.

I'd appreciate some input from some vet's. I can give more details of my bllod test results if needed.

Thanks....
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Yeah, I'm with you bros. Though mine got as high as 400 it wasn't working for me like I wanted.

Based on what I read above, you should give another post-c run a shot. It may or may not help. But, 2 months after, you might need more time. As your finding out, when you hit mid-30s, recover is a completely different issue than in your 20s for many bros. I would run the following:

HCG 1,000iu 3x per week weeks 1-3
Nolvadex 20mg weeks 1-6

Then wait 2-3 weeks and get retested. If your not materiallly higher at this point then your most likely in the club.
 
Thanks for the input guys. I called a endo and made an appointment for a few weeks into Jan.

Hey Stillgoing, I was thinking of running pct again but really think I am recovered. I had a few changes in the first few weeks, but haven't changed since. I have even made some mild gains in the last few weeks. I wasn't able to orgasm to easily right after, but that was only for maybe 2 weeks. My nuts are normal, etc. I have the same sex drive as I did for the past few years, (which isn't steller).

The receptionist at the endo told me that I should get another blood test showing free test, and my thyroid numbers before my appointment. I guess it'll save some cash.

I'll post my progress. Thanks again....
 
nsashbl01 said:
Thanks for the input guys. I called a endo and made an appointment for a few weeks into Jan.

Hey Stillgoing, I was thinking of running pct again but really think I am recovered. I had a few changes in the first few weeks, but haven't changed since. I have even made some mild gains in the last few weeks. I wasn't able to orgasm to easily right after, but that was only for maybe 2 weeks. My nuts are normal, etc. I have the same sex drive as I did for the past few years, (which isn't steller).

The receptionist at the endo told me that I should get another blood test showing free test, and my thyroid numbers before my appointment. I guess it'll save some cash.

I'll post my progress. Thanks again....
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Libido and test levels are not necessarily perfectly correlated. Definitely go to the endo, all I'm saying is, do another run before you decide to go HRT.
 
actually it seems that test levels and libido can be completely irrelevant if prolactin levels are too high. You can have a decent libido with low test levels if prolactin is normal, and absolutely no libido with very high test levels if prolactin is skyhigh. estrogen has been said to be a factor as well if levels are drastically out of range.
 
zziggzzigg said:
actually it seems that test levels and libido can be completely irrelevant if prolactin levels are too high. You can have a decent libido with low test levels if prolactin is normal, and absolutely no libido with very high test levels if prolactin is skyhigh. estrogen has been said to be a factor as well if levels are drastically out of range.
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Agreed.
 
Just got back from my first endo appointment. He sent me for more blood work, as I figured he would. He said that he didn't believe my lab results and that if my test is really that low there's something wrong! No shit!
He gave me a vioxx script for sore joints and sent me for blood work. I told him I don't like to take anti-inflams but he wants me to try. I don't think I'll take em.

We'll see what the results are in a few days....
 
Im 21 and my levels are 144!!! And that was after I was clean for 5 months... I did all the MRI shit which I am still paying off!!! Had a shit load of blood work done and He finally gave me a test script for delatestryl @200mg e3rd week. Funny thing is that even with my test shots my levels are unchanged. I just had bloodwork done and my levels are at like 160???

So join the club bro. I was real worried about being on hrt and my age and all and he said that there are alot of guys in there 20's with the same problem..

E
 
Well alot of times people just dont wait long enough after a cycle to have there test levels checked. It also varies depending on the time of day that you have the test done. If your levels continue to be low then your Dr will probably put you on some kind of replacement therapy. There are three basic types of replacement. A patch androderm being the most common, a gel Androgel, and of course a shot. My levels have been low since I was in a very bad accident in Dec of 2000. I have tried all three forms of replacement and if you can afford it the Androgel is the most effective. The release of the test in the system most closely resembles the bodies natural production. It is expensive, about 170 a month without insuarance, but beats the other methods. By the way if you decide to go with the shot dont tell the Dr that you already know how to give yourself a shot. Might light up a little bulb over his head. Tell him your wife is a nurse or something. By the way make sure your levels arent low because of your cycle. It can sometimes take months to return to normal.

The Green Hornet
 
My sex drive has been low for the past year an a half. It all started after using suppliments like Animal Stack, and even ephedra. I have been on some very low calorie diets in the past also. I even did a short 5 week cylce of 20mg SPA Var. I went to the doctor this summer to see what was wrong, even after 5 months off of everything. I got my test levels tested, and i think that they were at 256 or something, i could be totally wrong, but he told me that the levels were completly normal. He said that it might be nervousness or something like that. He is totally wrong, and i havent been able to figure out what it is.

What is normal test range?

Now i am thinking that it is Prolactin levels. Does anyone have a link to some more info on Prolactin, and Libido?
 
I think it might have been 356 or something then, cuz i remember him showing me normal values, and mine was towards the lower part of the normal.
 
Normal range is from 241 to 827 according to the letter from my Dr. Mine is 260 but he still put me on HRT. My LH is also low due to an injury to the pituitary gland which is in the brain. It apparently can also affect sex drive. I have a low sex drive, but have no problem performing, which is the important part anyway. Dont get me wrong, when I see the little hotties in the gym I have no problem with my sex drive.

The Green Hornet
 
Im going to call my doc tommorrow to ask him what the results were. I am 21, so if it is under 300 is that bad?
 
Well weather or not 300 is bad? The average is based on all males and is not lowered as you age. So when they say that 241 is the lowest for normals we are talking about men past there prime. Somewhere between 17 and 23 you hit your peak and it goes down from there. So if you look at it that way, 300 is bad at 21 not bad at 65. So I would try to raise it back to a higher level and if that doesnt work try to find a reason it has not returned to "normal." I am assuming that you have waited long enough after a cycle for it to be normal. If you have been on for a long time it may take a year to go back to normal. A good rule of thumb is twice the cycle length. If you are taking something like sust that takes a month or longer to clear the system the cycle is over one month after the last shot, as far as your "clean" period goes.
 
Got my 2nd blood test results. No problems with any of the levels except my test! This time it was 160! It was tested at 5PM vs 8AM last time, so maybe that's why it's 80pts lower? We'll see what the doc says.....
 
I went to another endo appt. He started me on Depot Test, and wanted a shit load of tests. I told him I don't have the cash for the tests and he said that I should get them done. MRI, sperm count, etc. He said that the treatment would be the same either way, but we should find out the cause. I told him I don't care why I'm like this, and that I've dealt with it for many years. He said that it's not life threatening, it's quality of life.

I found another doc that won't make me go broke. I'm going to give it a few months, and then decide if it's worth it.
 
I have been having difficulty for a few years, and only now has my doctor found out I have low test levels. My total was 124 and my free was .37. That is POINT 37! I have been on HRT for about 6 months and the most I can seem to get to is around 320 with a free of about 20. I still feel like crap and my gym performance is still suffering. As of yet, I have never been on a cycle.

I've burned a lot of money trying the various pro-hormones and off the shelf stuff, to see if I could get some help that way, but haven't been able to measure any changes. Needless to say, I'm looking for alternatives.
 
strongsmartsexy said:
As of yet, I have never been on a cycle.

I've burned a lot of money trying the various pro-hormones and off the shelf stuff, to see if I could get some help
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Pro-horomones my have caused you condition. You get all of the nasty sides and can even get nat test production shutdown on pro-hormone garbage.

Never having done a cycle in terms of doing a hormone that shuts down you nat test may not be trun in you case. Did you do any adro* or 1AD or ? If so then you should probably try some HCG and then full Post Cycle recovery program.
 
I had never even done any Pro-hormones until I discovered my test levels were so low. All of my thyroid, LH etc was normal. My doctor did a full physical, and blood panels out the wazoo.
 
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