Low dose winstrol instead of D-bol for PCT?

[Vascular Freak]

Any benefit to this as opposed to 10mg d-bol in the am?

 

[letsrun4it]

either stay on or get off

 

[shivastool]

All AAS are suppressive (yes, even Anavar). Stay off...bridging IMHO is outdated and dangerous.

 

[karachi183]

Nope... Research 10mg AM dbol only. Dbol 10mg AM is not a bridge although it can be used as one!

 

[Vascular Freak]

Nope... Research 10mg AM dbol only. Dbol 10mg AM is not a bridge although it can be used as one!

Can winstrol be used similar to how d-bol is run in that sense?

 

[supertech69]

I've always had the best results with running the winny or d-bol until the longer acting esters (deca, T-Enan, etc) are out of my system (usually 3-4 weeks past my last injection), then begining a regular Clomid PCT, throwing in some HCG on longer cycles. Just my $.02

 

[boston789]

using any type of aas in pct makes no sense. its not a pct then. like said earlier...stay on or get off!

 

[Vascular Freak]

I've always had the best results with running the winny or d-bol until the longer acting esters (deca, T-Enan, etc) are out of my system (usually 3-4 weeks past my last injection), then begining a regular Clomid PCT, throwing in some HCG on longer cycles. Just my $.02

That was my intention, I was going to stop the eq, primo, and test e and run prop and winstrol for 3 weeks until the long esters clear then start clomid, HCG, and Nolva etc.

 

[swordfish151]

Nope... Research 10mg AM dbol only. Dbol 10mg AM is not a bridge although it can be used as one!

Really...please show me the research...or where you found this "information"

 

[karachi183]

Really...please show me the research...or where you found this "information"

This is so old bro.... Dan Duchaine wrote about this as has others as well as ef members.. Some guy actually just posted not too long ago how he ran 10mg in the AM after a long bout of having low test results and it helping him alot. There is a reason why they call dbol the breakfast of champions and it's not because it tastes great with coffee.. I'm honestly sick of the dbol posts even tho i myself love it and use it year in and out with no problems. The only reason i posted is to say winny for pct is counterproductive now as far as solidifying gains that's another story...

 

[karachi183]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=498517

 

[krishna]

If it's got dbol or winny in it, it's not pct. Call it a bridge, but it's not pct.

 

[jijipuku]

If it's got dbol or winny in it, it's not pct. Call it a bridge, but it's not pct.

Maybe not pct....but you could call it pct helper(or pre-pct)

 

[krishna]

Maybe not pct....but you could call it pct helper(or pre-pct)

No you can't call it that either. The purpose of pct is to recover your testes and the hpta axis. Taking dbol or winny can only hinder that.

 

[Dellyo]

Really...please show me the research...or where you found this "information"

I'd like to know as well

 

[boston789]

No you can't call it that either. The purpose of pct is to recover your testes and the hpta axis. Taking dbol or winny can only hinder that.

Yup, just like I said earlier...its not pre-pct or pct or anything. Its a bridge and in IMO bridges are a dumb idea. Either stay on or cycle on/off.

 

[karachi183]

Check the link above...... This isn't something new gentlemen!

 

[slimsc]

Very interesting. Thanks for the link.

 

[njmuscleguy]

does anyone know for a fact that dbol hinders PCT and affects the HPTA? I'd be interested in seeing people's bloodwork after having done a "pct" or "bridge" with dbol as opposed to not

anyone?

 

[jijipuku]

No you can't call it that either. The purpose of pct is to recover your testes and the hpta axis. Taking dbol or winny can only hinder that.

hmm..here's an example...
a cycle which consist of ..
week
1-4 dbol 30-40 mg ed
1-8 deca 300-400 mg ew

The pct should start after 2-3 weeks of deca inj....in your opinion wouldn't taking dbol 10mg ed after the last inj of deca, let's say...2-2.5 weeks and then start the pct not help?

 

[blacksabbath1987]

hmm..here's an example...
a cycle which consist of ..
week
1-4 dbol 30-40 mg ed
1-8 deca 300-400 mg ew

The pct should start after 2-3 weeks of deca inj....in your opinion wouldn't taking dbol 10mg ed after the last inj of deca, let's say...2-2.5 weeks and then start the pct not help?

it will help!!! try it you are still going to run your pct!! i dont see how some people can call this brigeing when you are only running it for 3-weeks tops!! not trying to flame but brigeing to me is were you run a low dose and never come off!!! your going to run pct for how long you have been on will determine how much hcg and clomid you will have to run!! so if you run a 10-week cycle i would say you can get away with 1-run of hcg and clomid< longer 20-week cycle you may have to run twice, that is what i had to do and i got back to normal!!! a side note i ran alot of compounds at very high doses.