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Looking for a lean mass cycle...

GarrisX

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hey, i'm looking for a cycle that would help me gain a bit but not too much and with little or no added fat.

i was thinking a winstrol only cycle

or a winstrol+ primo cycle?

and idk what for pct yet..

i was thinking clomid.

any other input you guys have? or experience with a winstrol only cycle? or if you have better ideas i'd love to hear them.

thanks in advance
 
you're scared of needles aren't you bro?
injections are your best friend

what's your stats?how many cycles have you ran?

I prefer cycles with a test base the gains are easier kept and easier on your liver and system
 
not afraid of needles at all.

my stats are age 21 about 6 ft 190 around 12% bf

no cycles before this.

want to just do one that won't be too overly noticeable but that i can get sum nice lean gains out of. thanks
 
eat train sleep and repeat daily is a great first cycle for your age.
 
train hard with clean form for another year
increase your caloric and protein intake

break the 200lbs mark naturally
build a good foundation you can build upon
then study your ass off on good cycles,serms and ai's,and post cycle therapy
then and only then can you make a wise decision concerning gear
 
hyp1 said:
you're scared of needles aren't you bro?
injections are your best friend

what's your stats?how many cycles have you ran?

I prefer cycles with a test base the gains are easier kept and easier on your liver and system
hyp1 you crack me up bro. you think everyone is scared of needles if they dont add test in a cycle.lol
 
cipherking said:
hyp1 you crack me up bro. you think everyone is scared of needles if they dont add test in a cycle.lol

hahaha I don't mean to come of like an asshole but everytime I see a person wanting to run an all oral cycle only that's the first thing that pops into my mind.

pins are my best friend :heart:
 
hyp1 said:
hahaha I don't mean to come of like an asshole but everytime I see a person wanting to run an all oral cycle only that's the first thing that pops into my mind.

pins are my best friend :heart:



Orals are not too bad if done right for your first cycle, depending on what they are. my .02

BUT>>>>>>

Bro your still real young... You need to eat like crazy and put some work in at the gym hommie. The gear will still be there for years to come, it's not going anywhere. Hit that 200 mark, and then maybe 215.
 
raider187 said:
Orals are not too bad if done right for your first cycle, depending on what they are. my .02

in my opinion an all oral cycle is fucking horrible whether it be a first,second or even third cycle.for the most part the gains are fucking almost impossible to keep,and keeps beginners away from injections which are actually safer for their entire system.it also perpetuates not educating themselves properly about post cycle therapy,and proper steroid cycles.If they're scared shitless of needles and injections they aren't about to touch HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - (which to actually keep gains is a must imo)

most beginners hear about the weight gain on anadrol and dianabol and because of that run it,blow up with water retention like the goddamned stay puff marshmellow man and then shrink down to nothing as soon as they stop taking it.many of them still fucking drink alcohol also while doing it,which to me is the most stupid fucking thing anyone could ever do.everytime I hear of someone wanting to run an oral cycle only and are a beginner I literally want to bitch slap them.
 
hyp1 said:
hahaha I don't mean to come of like an asshole but everytime I see a person wanting to run an all oral cycle only that's the first thing that pops into my mind.

pins are my best friend :heart:
oral are a bad choice for some kid that wants to get a taste of the dark side. but u never asked him if his primo was injection or oral. and his winny also. he should get some cee and protein and i bet he would be suprized at his gains. you need that good base before adding additives.
 
cipherking said:
oral are a bad choice for some kid that wants to get a taste of the dark side. but u never asked him if his Primobolan - methenolone - was injection or oral. and his Winstrol - stanozolol also. he should get some cee and protein and i bet he would be suprized at his gains. you need that good base before adding additives.

I would lay money on them being all oral,and if so the gains are going to be damn near impossible to keep.he would be surprised at how fast those gains disappeared.
 
i dont disagree theyprobably are orals but that dont make him afraid of pins. but i know u didnt mean it like that. i feel the same way u do. when someone says "ur a bitch just inject" that boils me.
 
run a 5 week cycle, of DERMACRINE with 60mgs of tbol......you will dig it, puts on a good 10 and keeps you lean.....PCT.....40 mgs of nolva first week, then drop down to 20mgs for the second.....
 
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