Longest Cycle???

[hammertime30]

What is the longest cycle you guys ever ran? Was it difficult getting natural test levels back up? I'm thinking of stretching my EQ/test cycle to 16 wks, but haven't decided yet...Originally planned it for 12, but thinking of adding another 4 weeks to cut down a little.

 

[mehtadog]

What is the longest cycle you guys ever ran? Was it difficult getting natural test levels back up? I'm thinking of stretching my EQ/test cycle to 16 wks, but haven't decided yet...Originally planned it for 12, but thinking of adding another 4 weeks to cut down a little.

bro i dont know enough to really say anything but 16 weeks? just logically you have to know something wont be as good as it was, im not sure what. try not to get all in the hype about aas and the "is there anything more i can take, or shit im growing so much i dont want to stop". better safe than sorry, i dont have much experance so mabey im wrong, but thats my two cents. later
-mdog.

 

[galaxy]

im pretty sure im on for life

 

[shortstack]

im pretty sure im on for life

lol thats crazy....
wouldnt want you as a next door neighbor, lol.

 

[Dial_tone]

Unless you're a pro or about to become one I don't see any need to go over 16 weeks. I will stop at 10-12 weeks from now on. I might even start going 6 on/6 off.

 

[hammertime30]

I hear ya, but basically I'm on a 12 wk bulking plan right now so I was thinking being that the EQ is already in my system to take advantage of it for about 4 wks and go right into cutting and end the cycle after that vs waiting 3 months just to start a full cutting cycle! What goes for a pro basically goes the same for us, the only difference may be the actual amount of gear they use.

 

[hammertime30]

striving for more input

 

[jeb0177]

I'm doing 20 weeker cycles with 3 months off. I've done 3 20 weeker cycles so far last two years. I love long cycles, with proper pct and hcg through out your cycle you shouldn't have any problems coming back as far as natural test levels. the last 3 weeks of my cycle I was using 250 iu's of hcg e3d, this week I'm starting to count the days starting now for my pct because I just ended up my 20 weeker last week.

 

[hammertime30]

I'm doing 20 weeker cycles with 3 months off. I've done 3 20 weeker cycles so far last two years. I love long cycles, with proper pct and hcg through out your cycle you shouldn't have any problems coming back as far as natural test levels. the last 3 weeks of my cycle I was using 250 iu's of hcg e3d, this week I'm starting to count the days starting now for my pct because I just ended up my 20 weeker last week.

Do you normally include clomid and nolva together or just one of them with HCG?

 

[Judo Tom]

i dont use tren/deca anymore.. now i mainly use test

but with my cycles i notice NO difference in recovery time once i cross 8 weeks

past 8 weeks it always takes me around 5-7 weeks to recover if i keep the cycle 4-6 weeks i can recover a bit quicker like 2-3 weeks

I love nolvadex BTW

i also like running 12 week bulk cycles and then start cuttin back carbs 13-16 weeks and then during pct i increase cals again to not loose my hard earned muscle i just feel like those weeks (13-16) help "solidfy" the gains this might be 100% in my head but i like doing that rather than an all out full bulk for 16 weeks as there are other factors to consider like bp/liver values/ cholesterol

also the shorter cycles really dont do much for me.. so they are not really a great option for me

 

[hammertime30]

i dont use tren/deca anymore.. now i mainly use test

but with my cycles i notice NO difference in recovery time once i cross 8 weeks

past 8 weeks it always takes me around 5-7 weeks to recover if i keep the cycle 4-6 weeks i can recover a bit quicker like 2-3 weeks

I love nolvadex BTW

i also like running 12 week bulk cycles and then start cuttin back carbs 13-16 weeks and then during pct i increase cals again to not loose my hard earned muscle i just feel like those weeks (13-16) help "solidfy" the gains this might be 100% in my head but i like doing that rather than an all out full bulk for 16 weeks as there are other factors to consider like bp/liver values/ cholesterol

also the shorter cycles really dont do much for me.. so they are not really a great option for me

Same idea I had which is why I thought about stretching the cycle to 16 weeks. I figured why not try to shed some water and/or fat right after 12 weeks of bulking rather than waiting later, but you're right about the other factors that will play a major role in the decision...Thanks bro!

 

[jeb0177]

Do you normally include clomid and nolva together or just one of them with HCG?

I like to use both 50mg of clomid and 20mg of nolva through out pct. the reason for that is because i get sides from clomid at 100mg.