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Long time lifter, first time cycle

8thNotch

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Good Afternoon Gentlemen,

I recently turned 30 and was looking into a first time cycle recommended by some people who I would consider "knowledgeable". A little about me, Ive been lifting for 8+ years. From being in the military and lifting specific for that, to power lifting for a few years when I got out, to my new found interest in bodybuilding, I have put the time and sweat in the pit and have a decent knowledge base on that aspect. My diet is solid with the required macro's and intakes. My current weight is 233 with a last messured BF % of 18. To the point, I'm ready to start a cycle. This what I was offered and recommended: (I have zero knowledge of these drugs other than the research i've done and continue to do on my own. I'm here to get opinions and critiques.)

Cycle Layout:
Weeks 1-12 Sust 270mg every other day
Weeks 1-10 Tren Enanth200 every other day
Weeks 6-12 30mgVar __30mg Winstrol 10 every day
Weeks 14-18 50mg Clomid every day

Inject 1cc of GP Sust 270 once every other day along with 1cc of Tren every other day for 12 weeks. Starting in week 6, add 3 tabs of Var as well as 3 tabs of Winstrol10 every day. 2 weeks after discontinuing use, take 50mg of Clomid per day for 4 weeks.

Thoughts? Potential risks with this stack? Positives?
 
As long as your diet and training are in check then I would do the following.
Week 1-12
Sustanon 500 to 700 per week
Anavar 30mgs

Do not run Tren for your first cycle due to the sides and the fact that you are not familiar with what the sides as it effects each indivdual differently. A Sustanon and Anavar cycle will be a great first cycle to start with. Ramp up your clean calories and training and best of luck to you
 
yeah that would be a huge ass cycle.. go with something much much lower in total dosage for your first cycle.
 
As Arabian said you definitely do not want to run Tren on your first cycle. Especailly Enanthate. He laid out what I consider to be a great first cycle. I would keep dose at 500mgs though not 700.
 
As long as your diet and training are in check then I would do the following.
Week 1-12
Sustanon 500 to 700 per week
Anavar 30mgs

Edit to ask: Is that 30mgs of anavar a day for 12 weeks? Also, would the aforementioned PCT of Clomid be sufficient after this recommended cycle?
 
Your PCT does need work. I would run HC Generate 5 caps a day starting week 5 through PCT. Unleashed/Post Cycle combo to get free test back up and clean you out and I would have an AI on hand such as Arimidex for possible estrogen sides during cycle. That would insure gains are kept.
 
Edit to ask: Is that 30mgs of anavar a day for 12 weeks? Also, would the aforementioned PCT of Clomid be sufficient after this recommended cycle?

The Anavar can be run safely from 4 to 12 weeks at that dose. I would pick up some N2guard at Needtobuildmuscle as a support to the cycle.
 
Good Afternoon Gentlemen,

I recently turned 30 and was looking into a first time cycle recommended by some people who I would consider "knowledgeable". A little about me, Ive been lifting for 8+ years. From being in the military and lifting specific for that, to power lifting for a few years when I got out, to my new found interest in bodybuilding, I have put the time and sweat in the pit and have a decent knowledge base on that aspect. My diet is solid with the required macro's and intakes. My current weight is 233 with a last messured BF % of 18. To the point, I'm ready to start a cycle. This what I was offered and recommended: (I have zero knowledge of these drugs other than the research i've done and continue to do on my own. I'm here to get opinions and critiques.)

Cycle Layout:
Weeks 1-12 Sust 270mg every other day
Weeks 1-10 Tren Enanth200 every other day
Weeks 6-12 30mgVar __30mg Winstrol 10 every day
Weeks 14-18 50mg Clomid every day

Inject 1cc of GP Sust 270 once every other day along with 1cc of Tren every other day for 12 weeks. Starting in week 6, add 3 tabs of Var as well as 3 tabs of Winstrol10 every day. 2 weeks after discontinuing use, take 50mg of Clomid per day for 4 weeks.

Thoughts? Potential risks with this stack? Positives?

Hey I'm no expert but have done a lot a research and in reality in a very similar position to your good self (maybe a couple more years tho)
Personally as your 1st cycle 270mg sus EOD seems a lot???? 500-600mg a week seems more sensible to me...
Tren & var .... wait!!! Why stack as your first cycle the sus alone should show significant gains..and if you experience any sides how are you going to know what is causing it..
18% bf not ideal (advice I was given) get some N2guard ( keeps bp etc on the right track)
Pct.... SteveMI has a cracking post on profile which I suggest you read before starting anything.
NOTE THIS IS NOT FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE BUT I STUDY EVERY POST ON HERE AND TAKE ON BOARD WHAT THE EXPERTS SAY...get more feedback before you think about starting a cycle.....good luck bro
 
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