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long then short ester cyle?

skaman007

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hi ,this cycle was recommended to me on uk muscle forum,,weeks 1-5 sustanon 500mgs weekly
weeks6-10 test prop and tren 100-150mg every 3rd day,.any thought s?could hit pct straight away after the short esters that way.
 
is this your first cycle bro? if so...
just take test e 250mg/weekly or 500mg/weekly...

i would definetly not do this..but thats just me.. too many compounds ive only done 2 cycles and on my third..
the advantage of that cycle is that you do get to hit PCT right away..but you wouldnt get the advantages out of sust
since some esters in there are the longer ones..my test kicks in usually 4-6 weeks.. and really kicks in during the end..
 
It's sort of how I started my last cycle but I had some stuff lying around I needed to use also. If this is your fist cycle then no I don't think it's great. What are your objectives and what history do you have? Also some stats as to body comp and training might be useful.
 
It's sort of how I started my last cycle but I had some stuff lying around I needed to use also. If this is your fist cycle then no I don't think it's great. What are your objectives and what history do you have? Also some stats as to body comp and training might be useful.

hi,40yrs young,,training for 15yrs on /off,,only seriously last few years.have done over 10 oral only cyles,,and i injectable of test e 500mg for 12 weeks in summer 08..current weight is 190lbs ,roughly 15percent bf.training 3x week on needsizes 5x5 ,which is one compound 5x5 and 2x10reps for 2 isolations each bodypart.cals 3200per day and protien 220g per day.
 
Ok, so how did your Test cycle work out for you? It should have gone very well.

I would maybe do the same thing i.e. 500mgs of Test weekly for 12 weeks with a d-bol kickstart at 40mgs/day for first 4 weeks. Perhaps finish with some some winny running weeks 11-13 at 50mgs/day. Wait one week and start PCT. You could also run Sustanon instead of the Test for 12 weeks if you wish. This is a tried and true cycle that will provide you with great gains starting with some strength increases and finishing with a little hardening. Simply put it works and works well if your training and diet are on track and seems you have a reasonable handle on that.
 
SOme theories point out that the first cycle should be with milder AS, like Deca, EQ, Primo, Anavar? The side effects are lesser and a body "virgin" of AS should make great progress. Most safe TESTO and the like for later, when the body is already used to milder AS and now requires a stronger substance... ALbeit, this is all assuming 10 wk cycles, followed up some good 6-8 month off. Is is not wise to be on a never ending cycle, for once, the AS stop working in such scenario.
 
Just look at how many threads are popping up about tren users and there limp noodle. Stay away from Tren for a while until you know how to truly counteract it's negative sides. Test is your friend, use it and be safe.
 
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