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LOL..Swift Boat Veterans banned me....

hooch

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I registered on their forum. Then, without being an asshole, I started questioning their "evidence" against Kerry. I then put up a link to the thesmokinggun.com where they posted scans of Kerry's Bronze Star award SIGNED off by a guy named Elliot. The is the same former Navy Commander who is appearing in the Swift Boat ads slamming Kerry. I just got a notice that I am banned from the site. What a buch of fucking losers. They had claimed that they weren't pro-bush. They said their only agenda was to "set the record straight" on Kerry. The whole damn thing is a sham. And whats really disheartening is that a lot of people are buying it....
 
Posting facts goes against everything they stand for and pursue.
They live off of opinions and personal statements that cannot be fact checked. i.e. propaganda
 
What an awesome message they send for possible new recruits.

Volunteer to serve your country, operate in extremely hazardous duty, get decorated then get the back stabbing of the century by some of the same colleagues who decorated you or were decorated around you.

The extremeness of it is that somehow the Bushbarians try to posture as the true patriots.


If you to enjoy the status of a patriot in America:

1) Do not serve in the war.

2) Send our boys to fight wars that line rich pockets under false pretenses.

3) Bitterly attack those who did serve and paid large prices. McCain was a POW for 5 years and was consequently Bushbarian labeled as crazy because of it. The guy in Atlanta lost three limbs and was labeled unpatriotic. Kerry carries shrapnel and is accused of doing self inflicted injuries.


If I had a son, I would tell him to RUN...not WALK....from serving these turkeys. They stab our veterans in the back in the very worst way possible.


Bush supporters. :rolleyes:
 
Testosterone boy said:
What an awesome message they send for possible new recruits.

Volunteer to serve your country, operate in extremely hazardous duty, get decorated then get the back stabbing of the century by some of the same colleagues who decorated you or were decorated around you.

The extremeness of it is that somehow the Bushbarians try to posture as the true patriots.


If you to enjoy the status of a patriot in America:

1) Do not serve in the war.

2) Send our boys to fight wars that line rich pockets under false pretenses.

3) Bitterly attack those who did serve and paid large prices. McCain was a POW for 5 years and was consequently Bushbarian labeled as crazy because of it. The guy in Atlanta lost three limbs and was labeled unpatriotic. Kerry carries shrapnel and is accused of doing self inflicted injuries.


If I had a son, I would tell him to RUN...not WALK....from serving these turkeys. They stab our veterans in the back in the very worst way possible.


Bush supporters. :rolleyes:
 
TADHealth said:
Posting facts goes against everything they stand for and pursue.
They live off of opinions and personal statements that cannot be fact checked. i.e. propaganda
why doesn't Kerry,Edwards et.al. sue them then for libel?
they won't because you know what happens in a court
the vets will be able to FORCE the signing of the 180 and the release of the hundred or so of his records he hasn't released
and all that other stuff that goes on in court
calling witnesses,cross examining
sue em for libel Kerry
 
Kerry is somewhat busy these days I would think.

Sueing those guys would not win the election, it would open another can of worms.

If politicians sued everyone who did libel, that is all they would do.

Even their kids get boo'd. Pathetic.
 
Testosterone boy said:
Kerry is somewhat busy these days I would think.

Sueing those guys would not win the election, it would open another can of worms.

If politicians sued everyone who did libel, that is all they would do.

Even their kids get boo'd. Pathetic.
:beer:
 
4everhung said:
why doesn't Kerry,Edwards et.al. sue them then for libel?
they won't because you know what happens in a court
the vets will be able to FORCE the signing of the 180 and the release of the hundred or so of his records he hasn't released
and all that other stuff that goes on in court
calling witnesses,cross examining
sue em for libel Kerry

I think he's kind of busy right now.

And impeding on other people's freedom of speech through court processes isn't all that.

Swift boat vets for the truth have no public integrity, why give them more attention than they deserve?
 
MAX 300 said:
Swift boat vets for the truth have no public integrity
apparently that's not what the public thinks
I think its a fair question,considering he's "busy" doing damage control caused by the swift vets
though not too busy to go windsurfing
that's a joke,I know its standard procedure for the opposing candidate to go on vacation during the opposition's convention
I HOPE he at least sues after the election
and why hasn't he met with the press in a televised interview in a month?
too busy?
 
What the public thinks?

What the public thinks?

Bejeeezes.

The public gets talked into purchasing stadiums for the richest cats in town.

What the public thinks??????????

I'm not entirely certain that John Q Public thinks at all.

Wait a second.

I disconnected my dish so I could watch the Olympics on basic channels.

Most people do not think at all. This is clearly obvious when you suffer through a few minutes of mainstream programming.

What the public thinks?

Bejeeeezez!

It is no wonder that elections are so disgusting. The worst shit imaginable works wonders with the public.

BTW....Bush will have to eat a large shit sandwich during the debates because of his beloved Swiftee veterans.
 
These swift boat fools are an ironic bunch. They are pissed because they think Kerry dissed soldiers after his tour in Nam. So what do they do? They turn around and smear him as a soldier.
 
how is using his own testimony smearing him?
sure "spitball" John would like for the vets to forget about that part
smear?
what about Soro's 60 million smear campaign thats been going on for years?
the little ole swift vets 1-2 million is having an impact,because people(esp. the vets)smell a rat
 
Its because negative campaigning works.

Well it works as long as people get their "info" from 30 second commericials on the TV. Which is why Bush receives the amount of votes he does.


Just one small example...

The states with the worst high school graduation rates...
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cr_baeo_t2.htm

As well as the states with the lowest college level education...

[factfinder.census.gov]

Vote republican.



9 of the 12 lowest high school grad states are entrenched republican.
8 of the 9 lowest college grads also go republican.

And the top educational states? The majority are strong democratic states.


Sorry for the wide brush, blanket statements. This has absolutley nothing to do with anyone on a personal level. Its just the way it is, when you look at it from a wide scope of people/voters.
 
TADHealth said:
Its because negative campaigning works.

Well it works as long as people get their "info" from 30 second commericials on the TV. Which is why Bush receives the amount of votes he does.


Just one small example...

The states with the worst high school graduation rates...
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cr_baeo_t2.htm

As well as the states with the lowest college level education...

[factfinder.census.gov]

Vote republican.



9 of the 12 lowest high school grad states are entrenched republican.
8 of the 9 lowest college grads also go republican.

And the top educational states? The majority are strong democratic states.


Sorry for the wide brush, blanket statements. This has absolutley nothing to do with anyone on a personal level. Its just the way it is, when you look at it from a wide scope of people/voters.

The only thing this demonstrates is your total incompetence. Notice that the top 12 states are mostly Republican. They all have R majorities in their state legislatures and in the governorship - yeah, that includes Vermont - with maybe one or two exceptions. So by your logic, the people that have the most to do with education in the top states (gov and state leg) are Republicans.

The real deciding factor is states with minority populations (including blacks, Indians on reservations, and illegal hispanics) have low stats.

Thanks for providing this wonderful example of Democrats being either stupid or lying or both. Please continue posting.
 
hooch said:
I registered on their forum. Then, without being an asshole, I started questioning their "evidence" against Kerry. I then put up a link to the thesmokinggun.com where they posted scans of Kerry's Bronze Star award SIGNED off by a guy named Elliot. The is the same former Navy Commander who is appearing in the Swift Boat ads slamming Kerry. I just got a notice that I am banned from the site. What a buch of fucking losers. They had claimed that they weren't pro-bush. They said their only agenda was to "set the record straight" on Kerry. The whole damn thing is a sham. And whats really disheartening is that a lot of people are buying it....

The award was based on field reports written by Kerry and Elliott has now learned what really happened.

I'm glad they banned you. I gave them a nice big contribution yesterday and I don't want my money going for your wasted bandwidth.

I have access to these guys voter files. Many of them either are registered Democrats or, in states where you do not register by party, vote in Democrat primaries.

Of the people who were swift boat veterans in Vietnam and served with, under, and over kerry, there are maybe 12 who support Kerry, and ~215 who don't. Who am I to believe?
 
WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE PARIS
The John Kerry camp should be careful about how much mud it flings. According to media sources in New York for the campaign, a number of national media outlets have already completed or close to completing several major investigations into possible Kerry fundraising irregularities, as well as what one media source calls "devastating" stories of Kerry's time in Paris when he was meeting with Communist Vietnamese officials.

"Americans have no idea what Kerry was doing during that time in Paris," says a journalist. "It makes the Swift Boat ads look lightweight by comparison."
 
hooch said:
I registered on their forum. Then, without being an asshole, I started questioning their "evidence" against Kerry. I then put up a link to the thesmokinggun.com where they posted scans of Kerry's Bronze Star award SIGNED off by a guy named Elliot. The is the same former Navy Commander who is appearing in the Swift Boat ads slamming Kerry. I just got a notice that I am banned from the site. What a buch of fucking losers. They had claimed that they weren't pro-bush. They said their only agenda was to "set the record straight" on Kerry. The whole damn thing is a sham. And whats really disheartening is that a lot of people are buying it....

you sly dog you, thats sooooo cool!
 
Synpax said:
The award was based on field reports written by Kerry and Elliott has now learned what really happened.

I'm glad they banned you. I gave them a nice big contribution yesterday and I don't want my money going for your wasted bandwidth.

I have access to these guys voter files. Many of them either are registered Democrats or, in states where you do not register by party, vote in Democrat primaries.

Of the people who were swift boat veterans in Vietnam and served with, under, and over kerry, there are maybe 12 who support Kerry, and ~215 who don't. Who am I to believe?
wow..another Swift boat sucker. To bad none of the Swift boat fags actually served ALONGSIDE him. And by telling people to disregard Official Navy Records, i.e. officer FITREP 's awards, etc...because the the signing Commanding Officer just writes off on what sailor or officer tells him means the millions of Navy records, Purple Hearts and awards already handed out for the last 100 years means we have a nation of lying bastard decorated veterans.
 
not being actually in his boat,would be like being part of a tank platoon and not knowing what the other 3-4 tanks are doing
these boats operated in "wolf packs" of 2-6 boats,typically 10-15 yards apart
mark my words,one of the guys in his boat is going to "break" soon
 
hooch said:
wow..another Swift boat sucker. To bad none of the Swift boat fags actually served ALONGSIDE him. And by telling people to disregard Official Navy Records, i.e. officer FITREP 's awards, etc...because the the signing Commanding Officer just writes off on what sailor or officer tells him means the millions of Navy records, Purple Hearts and awards already handed out for the last 100 years means we have a nation of lying bastard decorated veterans.

Wow, another blatant lie from a Democrat. Shocking.

Kerry's own campaign admitted that he wrote the field report on the Silver Star.

Further, see this photo on the SV page. These are of all the officers who served ALONGSIDE Kerry. Kerry even used this picture inhis campaign literature. See the ones who support him - and all those who do not.

http://www2.swiftvets.com/index.php?topic=SwiftPhoto

These guys normally would stick together and wouldn't let simple political differences get them to badmouth Kerry. But for these guys to actually break that and not just say they are not supporting him but to say he is UNFIT is incredible.
 
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