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Lj100?

LJ100 is NOT EURCOMA LONGFOLIA!!! For the 10th time..LOL :)

Long Jack extract, Tongkat Extract, 20:1, 50:1, it's all garbage. LJ100 is NOT just a tongkat extract! LJ100 has undergone a patented extraction process to capture the most potent, biologically active steroidal Glycosapins EuryPeptides.

LJ100 is the only scientifically proven herb to drastically increase testosterone, FREE T, and hormone precursors such as DHEA, 4-andro, and andro.
 
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And yet there's no reputable peer-reviewed studies on this mircle herb. And the study protocol was done by "scientists" who think testosterone is produced by aromatization, and you can have no interuption to the hormone system, yet produce Test that doesn't become DHT.
 
Anthony Roberts said:
And yet there's no reputable peer-reviewed studies on this mircle herb. And the study protocol was done by "scientists" who think testosterone is produced by aromatization, and you can have no interuption to the hormone system, yet produce Test that doesn't become DHT.

wrong :rolleyes:


the most recent one:
August 2006

A new study has demonstrated that LJ100 Eurycoma longifolia extract, standardized to 40% glycosaponins and 22% eurypeptides, known for enhancing sexual virility and overall physical endurance in men by increasing levels of free testosterone, may be equally as viable for promoting anabolic action during and after endurance training or competition. The study by S. Talbott, et al, entitled, “Effect of Eurycoma longifolia Extract on Anabolic Balance During Endurance Exercise,” sought to determine the effects of the herb specifically on cortisol and testosterone levels during high-intensity exercise. The researchers used a freeze-dried extract of eurycoma longifolia that was standardized to contain 22 percent eurypeptides and 40 percent glycosaponins. Participants were men who were taking part in a 24-hour mountain bike event. The subjects provided a saliva sample prior to and after each of four 14-mile laps; the eight samples of each participant underwent an enzyme immunoassay (Salimetric, State College of PA) to determine and compare levels of cortisol and testosterone. This was compared to placebo samples. Both placebo and supplement were taken approximately 30 minutes prior to exercise. The researchers found that cortisol levels in the LJ100 Eurycoma group were lower – 33 percent – than in the placebo group. Also, testosterone levels in the supplement group were 16 percent higher than that of the placebo group.
About LJ 100 - LJ100 is a registered standardized, freeze-dried Eurycoma longifolia extract, containing 40% glycosaponins and 22% eurypeptides, a bioactive glycoprotein that is now clinically proven for its androgenic properties. LJ100 has undergone a patented BAT extraction process to capture 22% biologically active eurypeptides, proven in research to be responsible for increasing libido. Created by the original researchers at the Forest Research Institute of Malaysia (FRIM), University of Malaya, and Massachusetts Institute of Technology, LJ100 (22% bioactive eurypeptides) has shown - in human clinical trials - an ability to increase DHEA and free testosterone, decrease sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG), modulate cortisol, and increase IGF-1 level.
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1: Arch Pharm Res. 2001 Oct;24(5):437-40. Links

Effects of Eurycoma longifolia jack on laevator ani muscle in both uncastrated and testosterone-stimulated castrated intact male rats.Ang HH, Cheang HS.
School of Pharmaceutical Sciences, University Science Malaysia, Minden, 11800, Penang, Malaysia. [email protected]

It has been reported that Eurycoma longifolia Jack commonly known as Tongkat Ali has gained notoreity as a symbol of man's ego and strength by the Malaysian men because it increases male virility and sexual prowess during sexual activities. As such, the effects of 200, 400 and 800 mg/kg of butanol, methanol, water and chloroform fractions of E. longifolia Jack were studied on the laevator ani muscle in both uncastrated and testosterone-stimulated castrated intact male rats after dosing them for 12 consecutive weeks. Results showed that 800 mg/kg of butanol, methanol, water and chloroform fractions of E. longifolia Jack significantly increased (p<0.05) the leavator ani muscle to 58.56+/-1.22, 58.23+/-0.31, 60.21 +/-0.86 and 62.35 +/-0.98 mg/100 g body weight, respectively, when compared with the control (untreated) in the uncastrated intact male rats and 49.23+/-0.82, 52.23+/-0.36, 50.21+/-0.66 and 52.35+/-0.58 mg/100 g body weight, respectively, when compared to control (untreated) in the testosterone-stimulated castrated intact male rats. Hence, the pro-androgenic effect as shown by this study further supported the traditional use of this plant as an aphrodisiac.

i can continue with the studies....
 
Magick69 said:
wrong :rolleyes:


the most recent one:
August 2006

A new study has demonstrated that LJ100 Eurycoma longifolia extract, standardized to 40% glycosaponins and 22% eurypeptides, known for enhancing sexual virility and overall physical endurance in men by increasing levels of free testosterone, may be equally as viable for promoting anabolic action during and after endurance training or competition. The study by S. Talbott, et al, entitled, “Effect of Eurycoma longifolia Extract on Anabolic Balance During Endurance Exercise,” sought to determine the effects of the herb specifically on cortisol and testosterone levels during high-intensity exercise. The researchers used a freeze-dried extract of eurycoma longifolia that was standardized to contain 22 percent eurypeptides and 40 percent glycosaponins. Participants were men who were taking part in a 24-hour mountain bike event. The subjects provided a saliva sample prior to and after each of four 14-mile laps; the eight samples of each participant underwent an enzyme immunoassay (Salimetric, State College of PA) to determine and compare levels of cortisol and testosterone. This was compared to placebo samples. Both placebo and supplement were taken approximately 30 minutes prior to exercise. The researchers found that cortisol levels in the LJ100 Eurycoma group were lower – 33 percent – than in the placebo group. Also, testosterone levels in the supplement group were 16 percent higher than that of the placebo group.
About LJ 100 - LJ100 is a registered standardized, freeze-dried Eurycoma longifolia extract, containing 40% glycosaponins and 22% eurypeptides, a bioactive glycoprotein that is now clinically proven for its androgenic properties. LJ100 has undergone a patented BAT extraction process to capture 22% biologically active eurypeptides, proven in research to be responsible for increasing libido. Created by the original researchers at the Forest Research Institute of Malaysia (FRIM), University of Malaya, and Massachusetts Institute of Technology, LJ100 (22% bioactive eurypeptides) has shown - in human clinical trials - an ability to increase DHEA and free testosterone, decrease sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG), modulate cortisol, and increase IGF-1 level.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
1: Arch Pharm Res. 2001 Oct;24(5):437-40. Links

Effects of Eurycoma longifolia jack on laevator ani muscle in both uncastrated and testosterone-stimulated castrated intact male rats.Ang HH, Cheang HS.
School of Pharmaceutical Sciences, University Science Malaysia, Minden, 11800, Penang, Malaysia. [email protected]

It has been reported that Eurycoma longifolia Jack commonly known as Tongkat Ali has gained notoreity as a symbol of man's ego and strength by the Malaysian men because it increases male virility and sexual prowess during sexual activities. As such, the effects of 200, 400 and 800 mg/kg of butanol, methanol, water and chloroform fractions of E. longifolia Jack were studied on the laevator ani muscle in both uncastrated and testosterone-stimulated castrated intact male rats after dosing them for 12 consecutive weeks. Results showed that 800 mg/kg of butanol, methanol, water and chloroform fractions of E. longifolia Jack significantly increased (p<0.05) the leavator ani muscle to 58.56+/-1.22, 58.23+/-0.31, 60.21 +/-0.86 and 62.35 +/-0.98 mg/100 g body weight, respectively, when compared with the control (untreated) in the uncastrated intact male rats and 49.23+/-0.82, 52.23+/-0.36, 50.21+/-0.66 and 52.35+/-0.58 mg/100 g body weight, respectively, when compared to control (untreated) in the testosterone-stimulated castrated intact male rats. Hence, the pro-androgenic effect as shown by this study further supported the traditional use of this plant as an aphrodisiac.

i can continue with the studies....

BINGO!

ONLY LJ100! Not just Tongkat EXTRACT!
 
Magick69 said:
wrong :rolleyes:


the most recent one:
August 2006

A new study has demonstrated that LJ100 Eurycoma longifolia extract, standardized to 40% glycosaponins and 22% eurypeptides, known for enhancing sexual virility and overall physical endurance in men by increasing levels of free testosterone, may be equally as viable for promoting anabolic action during and after endurance training or competition. The study by S. Talbott, et al, entitled, “Effect of Eurycoma longifolia Extract on Anabolic Balance During Endurance Exercise,” sought to determine the effects of the herb specifically on cortisol and testosterone levels during high-intensity exercise. The researchers used a freeze-dried extract of eurycoma longifolia that was standardized to contain 22 percent eurypeptides and 40 percent glycosaponins. Participants were men who were taking part in a 24-hour mountain bike event. The subjects provided a saliva sample prior to and after each of four 14-mile laps; the eight samples of each participant underwent an enzyme immunoassay (Salimetric, State College of PA) to determine and compare levels of cortisol and testosterone. This was compared to placebo samples. Both placebo and supplement were taken approximately 30 minutes prior to exercise. The researchers found that cortisol levels in the LJ100 Eurycoma group were lower – 33 percent – than in the placebo group. Also, testosterone levels in the supplement group were 16 percent higher than that of the placebo group.
About LJ 100 - LJ100 is a registered standardized, freeze-dried Eurycoma longifolia extract, containing 40% glycosaponins and 22% eurypeptides, a bioactive glycoprotein that is now clinically proven for its androgenic properties. LJ100 has undergone a patented BAT extraction process to capture 22% biologically active eurypeptides, proven in research to be responsible for increasing libido. Created by the original researchers at the Forest Research Institute of Malaysia (FRIM), University of Malaya, and Massachusetts Institute of Technology, LJ100 (22% bioactive eurypeptides) has shown - in human clinical trials - an ability to increase DHEA and free testosterone, decrease sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG), modulate cortisol, and increase IGF-1 level.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
1: Arch Pharm Res. 2001 Oct;24(5):437-40. Links

Effects of Eurycoma longifolia jack on laevator ani muscle in both uncastrated and testosterone-stimulated castrated intact male rats.Ang HH, Cheang HS.
School of Pharmaceutical Sciences, University Science Malaysia, Minden, 11800, Penang, Malaysia. [email protected]

It has been reported that Eurycoma longifolia Jack commonly known as Tongkat Ali has gained notoreity as a symbol of man's ego and strength by the Malaysian men because it increases male virility and sexual prowess during sexual activities. As such, the effects of 200, 400 and 800 mg/kg of butanol, methanol, water and chloroform fractions of E. longifolia Jack were studied on the laevator ani muscle in both uncastrated and testosterone-stimulated castrated intact male rats after dosing them for 12 consecutive weeks. Results showed that 800 mg/kg of butanol, methanol, water and chloroform fractions of E. longifolia Jack significantly increased (p<0.05) the leavator ani muscle to 58.56+/-1.22, 58.23+/-0.31, 60.21 +/-0.86 and 62.35 +/-0.98 mg/100 g body weight, respectively, when compared with the control (untreated) in the uncastrated intact male rats and 49.23+/-0.82, 52.23+/-0.36, 50.21+/-0.66 and 52.35+/-0.58 mg/100 g body weight, respectively, when compared to control (untreated) in the testosterone-stimulated castrated intact male rats. Hence, the pro-androgenic effect as shown by this study further supported the traditional use of this plant as an aphrodisiac.

i can continue with the studies....

1. Ross keeps saying that it's not just "long jack"....it's this special (whatever) in the LJ100. There's been no studies on that thing in particular...not anything in actual peer reviewed journals. The only "studies" on this miracle/magical ingredient in LJ100, which Ross keeps saying is not just Long Jack, are studies which have never been published in anything except for an ad. Post the actual journal which the study is from, not a review of the study.

2. That other study you posted is not on the thing Ross keeps saying is in LJ100. Also...I referenced that study already.

I'm talking about REAL studies, which are PUBLISHED, and are on the ACTUAL ingredient in LJ100, which as we keep hearing "Is not just Eurycoma longifolia jack".

Find me those studies...the ones which have actually been published in medical journals which are about the stuff in LJ100. I can't seem to find any...you know...the magical stuff that makes it different from just Long Jack...
 
Anthony Roberts said:
1. Ross keeps saying that it's not just "long jack"....it's this special (whatever) in the LJ100. There's been no studies on that thing in particular...not anything in actual peer reviewed journals. The only "studies" on this miracle/magical ingredient in LJ100, which Ross keeps saying is not just Long Jack, are studies which have never been published in anything except for an ad. Post the actual journal which the study is from, not a review of the study.

2. That other study you posted is not on the thing Ross keeps saying is in LJ100. Also...I referenced that study already.

I'm talking about REAL studies, which are PUBLISHED, and are on the ACTUAL ingredient in LJ100, which as we keep hearing "Is not just Eurycoma longifolia jack".

Find me those studies...the ones which have actually been published in medical journals which are about the stuff in LJ100. I can't seem to find any...

haha! bro just drop it please; people are not stupid.... this are studies took from pubmed; what is a serious study for you? where should be published.

the 2006 is an enlighting study just confirming lj100 function; in the other post you also spoke about saliva test and this study has it so lets drop it ?? :)
 
Magick69 said:
haha! bro just drop it please; people are not stupid.... this are studies took from pubmed; what is a serious study for you? where should be published.

the 2006 is an enlighting study just confirming lj100 function; in the other post you also spoke about saliva test and this study has it so lets drop it ?? :)

The 2006 "study" is not in pubmed. I just looked. It's not there. It's so enlightening that it's not even published.

The other study...well, I already posted that one. The rodents who got an anabolic effect were using 800mg/kg. I think it was injectable too...because LJ has an oral bioavailability of 10%. Reccomended dose of it? 300mgs...ummm...ok....yeah, that'll work.
 
Anthony Roberts said:
The 2006 "study" is not in pubmed. I just looked. It's not there. It's so enlightening that it's not even published.

The other study...well, I already posted that one. The rodents who got an anabolic effect were using 800mg/kg. I think it was injectable too...because LJ has an oral bioavailability of 10%. Reccomended dose of it? 300mgs...ummm...ok....yeah, that'll work.

listen first of all do not believe what is written in the forum profiles...

i do not know what is your education background but i am sure is not in research. you wanted before to say that it was not indexed yet in pubmed, i suppose...

the article has been published in a refereed academic journal unless you want to say that the Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition is not a referreed journal.
Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition. 3 (1)S1-S29, 2006

can we stop it now?? :chomp:
 
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Why don't we confine ourselves to the other thread instead of answering each other in this thread as well as the other one, and posting everything 2x.

Actually...I have to go coach right now...but I'll start a thread on this stuff tomorrow, and we'll sort it out. I have no problem saying it's a good supplement if it is....but right now, I think it's doubtful.
 
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