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Living at home with ma and pa

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FLASHMAN1 said:
Are you seriously THAT ungrateful that you bitch about them letting you live in thier house for such a pittance??? There are many other expenses that I didn't list that come with having your own place, Laundry, etc... which I'm sure you will not have to pay extra for while you're paying the all-inclusive $150 per month.

One more thing, did they pay for your college???? Just wondering...

A long long time ago when most people's parents didn't suck, parents themselves would talk shit about this guy's parents for wanting to make him pay.

He's their son. He seems like a good kid seeing how he's a college boy and judging by the fact that his parents are even willing to have him in their house.

He's not some kid off the street, a typical tenant, or a friend of the family - he is the family. If you ask me it's pretty stupid charging him rent.

You do not teach a boy responsibility by putting him in this kind of situation. I'm sure that he KNOWS that he would have to pay more rent elsewhere and that he will have to pay many things in his life, but does that mean he HAS to now? How about in 20, 30, or 50 years when his parents no longer walk the Earth? Are they going to donate all of their worldly goods and fortune to charity because they want to teach their son "responsibility?" Please.

I live at home and don't pay rent. I could - but I don't. Instead I spend the money I would normally be spending on rent on investments, educational materials, and decent fun. Someone here would claim that this does not teach me responsibility, which is clearly false since my finances are in better shape that quite possibly any part-time worker my age.

It teaches me something more important than responsibility - how not to be a dick and charge my own son rent when I'm 40 years old.

-Warik
 
Pay the money so that my parents can make money off me? while I help them out around the house, take care of shit like cutting the grass, shoveling the snow, taking care of the pets when they are not home, the things they they would have to do themselves if I wasnt there. seems like they should be paying me to move back home. I'll take care of all the shit around the house with no problem, but you think im gonna feel like cutting the grass and raking leaves while paying $150 every month?

I want to save up for a house for me and my soon to be fiance, i just think its pretty fucked up that they are gonna to take that money that i could be putting toward the house. they know Im saving up for a house so its not like they're worried about me living there forever. So wanting to have a nice house to raise a family in, and saving money towards the house is being a cheap ho? i dont think so.
 
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Warik said:


A long long time ago when most people's parents didn't suck, parents themselves would talk shit about this guy's parents for wanting to make him pay.

He's their son. He seems like a good kid seeing how he's a college boy and judging by the fact that his parents are even willing to have him in their house.

He's not some kid off the street, a typical tenant, or a friend of the family - he is the family. If you ask me it's pretty stupid charging him rent.

You do not teach a boy responsibility by putting him in this kind of situation. I'm sure that he KNOWS that he would have to pay more rent elsewhere and that he will have to pay many things in his life, but does that mean he HAS to now? How about in 20, 30, or 50 years when his parents no longer walk the Earth? Are they going to donate all of their worldly goods and fortune to charity because they want to teach their son "responsibility?" Please.

I live at home and don't pay rent. I could - but I don't. Instead I spend the money I would normally be spending on rent on investments, educational materials, and decent fun. Someone here would claim that this does not teach me responsibility, which is clearly false since my finances are in better shape that quite possibly any part-time worker my age.

It teaches me something more important than responsibility - how not to be a dick and charge my own son rent when I'm 40 years old.

-Warik

What I'm saying is this... He's saying it sounds "steep" for his parents to charge him $150 per month to live in thier house now that he's grown. I see it like this, If you need to live with your parents, once they are no longer legally responsible for your care, you SHOULD "kick in" for the household expenses. It teaches you that life is not a free ride, and that no one owes you a living or a place to live, or anything else... In the old days, every child in the family contributed in some way, and they were glad to, to help the family. Nowadays, kids are so fucking spoiled, that they EXPECT thier parents to hand them everything, and I just think that's nuts... When I was growing up, we were dirt poor. My mom worked three jobs, my father never paid a dime in child support, and no one handed me shit... I was 12, had a paper route, and I had to give my mother half of my weekly earnings ($65) to help out with household expenses. Not because she was a bitch, but because she really needed the extra money to help put food on the table. As I got older, and made more, I continued giving half of whatever I earned to my mom, which allowed her to quit one of her jobs and go back to school to finish her accounting degree. Right after she finished her degree, she was able to get a better job, and that's when I left for the military, so she was ok after that.

What all this means to me, is that it makes me ill to see a kid like this bitching about paying such a miniscule amount of money to have a roof over his head, utilities, cable TV, use of a telephone, laundry facilities, etc., I could go on and on. I'm not saying he's a bad person, but c'mon, a little spoiled maybe??? He's whining that his parents, who by the way don't OWE him anything, aren't going to let him sponge off of them forever. WAHHHHH... People like this have no idea what it's like to actually have to work to support yourself, and that's what pisses me off...

Warik, I wasn't talking about you, and if your parents are in the financial position to have you stay with them forever, and not charge you a dime, good for them, and good for you, but for those parents who choose to teach thier grown children that a place to live isn't free once you're grown, I don't think you have the right to say that they're "dicks" for making the kid cough up a little dough every month to live off of thier tit.....
 
Themachine01 said:
Pay the money so that my parents can make money off me? while I help them out around the house, take care of shit like cutting the grass, shoveling the snow, taking care of the pets when they are not home, the things they they would have to do themselves if I wasnt there. seems like they should be paying me to move back home. I'll take care of all the shit around the house with no problem, but you think im gonna feel like cutting the grass and raking leaves while paying $150 every month?

Maybe you won't feel like cutting grass and shit like that, but if those are conditions of living in THIER house, you should still do it. You keep saying "$150" like it's a huge sum of money, but I'd love to see your reaction to what you'd have to spend if you actually had to pay your own way entirely.

I want to save up for a house for me and my soon to be fiance, i just think its pretty fucked up that they are gonna to take that money that i could be putting toward the house. they know Im saving up for a house so its not like they're worried about me living there forever. So wanting to have a nice house to raise a family in, and saving money towards the house is being a cheap ho? i dont think so.

You say that like they're taking your money and giving you nothing in return. Clearly that's not the case, and the more you talk, the more whiny you sound. Whether they're worried about you staying there forever or not is not the issue. The issue is that you think that because they're your parents, they should provide you with a place to live, utilities, a phone, and all other creature comforts that you grew up with now that you're an "adult" until YOU decide you've saved enough money to buy yourself a house. Let me tell you something, if you decided to live on your own, you'd have a HELL of a lot less money to "save for a house". They are charging you a VERY small sum to cover any extra expense incurred by you living there, and maybe to help you start a budget for yourself. Since you're asking peoples' opinion, I think they're doing you a favor. I don't think wanting a house to raise a family in makes you a cheap ho at all, but complaining because your parents aren't giving you a free ride anymore now that you're grown DEFINITELY makes you a little whiner. Tell you what, you don't like the sum your parents are going to ask from you??? Fine, go get yourself an apartment, pay ALL your own bills, and then see how badly your parents are screwing you. Trust me, you're getting off easy.....
 
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FLASHMAN1 said:
Nowadays, kids are so fucking spoiled, that they EXPECT thier parents to hand them everything, and I just think that's nuts...

Adults also have to understand that kids were not asked to be born into a certain situation. A poor man's children did not jump up and say "hey I want to live in a poor house." A parent has one responsibility - to love his or her children. To bear a child into a poor situation but ensure that he has everything he needs is love, to bear a child into a poor situation and say "get to work fucker" is not my idea of love.

Sometimes situations arise that change the way things work like a divorce, a death in the family, unemployment, etc... and then the need for change is understandable, but, although I do not have all the information here, I am pretty confident that it would not be a painful financial burden for mr. machine's parents to put him up for a short while.

FLASHMAN1 said:
What all this means to me, is that it makes me ill to see a kid like this bitching about paying such a miniscule amount of money to have a roof over his head, utilities, cable TV, use of a telephone, laundry facilities, etc., I could go on and on. I'm not saying he's a bad person, but c'mon, a little spoiled maybe???

I don't think he's upset about paying that much. I think he's upset about the fact that the landlords are his parents.

FLASHMAN1 said:
Warik, I wasn't talking about you, and if your parents are in the financial position to have you stay with them forever, and not charge you a dime, good for them, and good for you, but for those parents who choose to teach thier grown children that a place to live isn't free once you're grown, I don't think you have the right to say that they're "dicks" for making the kid cough up a little dough every month to live off of thier tit.....

I guess it's different upbringing. My parents have made it clear to me that I will have whatever I need as long as I show them that I'm a responsible adult who isn't screwing around with his life. I can tell you right now that I'd be slaving over a deep-fryer for two shifts a day if I were an uneducated druggie trying to leech off of my parents - they wouldn't take that shit. I would never consider charging a child of mine rent even after he's well past 18 or 21 unless it were clear that he was trying to be a leech. Mr. Machine as he said is trying to save up $$$ to buy a house and start a life.

A month or two of room and board is much less than the tuition they didn't pay - that's for sure.

-Warik
 
yo bud, just because I dont feel like paying rent gives you the impression that Im spoiled? believe me, i am far from it. I have paid for everything I have ever owned. When I turned 17 my old man bought me a car for $5000 and set up a payment plan for me to pay him off in 3 years time, which I paid off every penny, before the 3 years was up. I will be paying off my student loans for a long time, thats right FLASHBOY, I paid for every penny. My parents are well off and besides the $200-$300 they would spend at Christmas never gave me shit.

My parents are far from struggling and do not need the $150 a month, if they needed it I would have no problem giving it to them.
 
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Warik said:
I don't think he's upset about paying that much. I think he's upset about the fact that the landlords are his parents.

Read it again bro, and read his other posts on this thread, he IS bitching about the amount

I guess it's different upbringing. My parents have made it clear to me that I will have whatever I need as long as I show them that I'm a responsible adult who isn't screwing around with his life. I can tell you right now that I'd be slaving over a deep-fryer for two shifts a day if I were an uneducated druggie trying to leech off of my parents - they wouldn't take that shit. I would never consider charging a child of mine rent even after he's well past 18 or 21 unless it were clear that he was trying to be a leech. Mr. Machine as he said is trying to save up $$$ to buy a house and start a life.

I have nothing against him trying to "start a life", but in the beginning post on this thread, he said "I will be coming home from college and will be living at home for a little bit, but they want to charge me rent, like $150 a month, WTF? I might as well just get an apartment right off the bat." That tells me that he feels that his parents should just let him move right back in, for free, for an indeterminate amount of time, so that he can "save for a house". Clearly he's bitching that his parents are charging him at all, and they should just let him stay there, without contribution, and I don't think that's right... He's engaged, out of college, and an adult, so they're treating him as such, and if I may say so, letting him get off very easily for $150 per month for all inclusive rent.

A month or two of room and board is much less than the tuition they didn't pay - that's for sure.

If you or he thinks that he's going to be able to pay his student loans, and save enough for a downstroke on a house in a couple of months, then you, and he, are severely deluded. They are giving him a great oppurtunity to put away some money by only charging him that much... And guess what, if he thinks $150 is a lot of money, he probably couldn't afford a house in the first place. He SHOULD concentrate on getting a great job, and paying off his bills, while living very cheaply in his parents' home.
 
FLASHBOY, no shit it is cheaper than renting an apartment, but do you realize what else goes along with living at home, loss of privacy and freedom. My point is, why spend $150 a month to live my parents, work around the house, live by their rules, and have to keep my door open when having my soon to be fiance spends the night. OR, I could spend an extra $300 a month to and loose all the priveledges freedoms of living on your own.
 
So, since they are saving me money, and I should be thankful for that, I should be happy If they were to charge me $50 less than what a landlord quotes me for an apartment, right? As long as it is cheaper, they are doing me this heavenly favor, good thinking FLASH.
 
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