liver protection

[saintjohn]

several supplements have come to my attention regarding d-bol and protecting the liver.

1. milk thistle

2. evening primrose oil

3. alpha lipoic acid

what do you guys think of these? what are the right dosages? are there any others i should take? please help, as i started what i plan to be four weeks of d-bol on saturday. please mention any others that have proven to be helpful.

also i fell off a ladder and racked my hamstring a few days ago. do you think the d-bol will help with healing?

thanks

 

[mr.huge]

Synthergine is guarenteed to be the most potent liver
conditioner/detoxifier available in the world. Synthergine is especially
useful for conditions where the liver gets stressed due to the toxicity of
certain bodybuilding chemicals.

Ingredients:
Arginine Hydrochloride, Sodium Glucuronate, Di-isopropylamine Dichloroacetate, Lysine Hydrochloride, Methionine Hydrochloride.

1ml 2x daily per 25kg now it can be taken orally, IM, or SQ. It works the same which ever way you prefer to take it you will see the same effects.


Mr.Huge

 

[Ulter]

Tyler Liver Detox Factor and Glucorell R.
You can get Tyler from your doctor or order it from The AF Store. Glucorell R is much more potent then Alpha Lipoic Acid.

 

[monster2929]

Liv-52

 

[the real big a]

Milk thistle doesn't have any real confirmable medical studies behind it.
Evening Primrose Oil won't do anything.
ALA works good.
Liv 52 and Tyler are very good.
Synthergine is the best.

I have no experience with Glucorell.

 

[Ulter]

Liv-52

Bro Liv 52 will do nothing for 17aa meds. It's for poison mushrooms and organic toxins, at best. Tyler is only sold by physicians to their patients who have high liver values. The AF Store has to have a doc order it and ship it to the store to be sold here at Elite.

 

[Indy]

Healing wont be any better with dbol, but work it slowly and dbol will sure get a rush of blood in there to help you out.

 

[saintjohn]

is there any contraindication to taking glucorell r and synthergine simultaneously? would it be more helpful to take them both at the same time or just a waste of $

 

[lrg&inCHARGE]

hmmm.. know anywhere else I can get a hold of Tyler Liver Detox? AF store won't ship this to Canada, some kind of restricitons i'm guessin...

 

[LVTitan]

yeah do a search on it, there are several places to find it if i remember. i usually take some NAC when on orals also. and milk thistle sure cant hurt.

 

[Ulter]

is there any contraindication to taking glucorell r and synthergine simultaneously? would it be more helpful to take them both at the same time or just a waste of $

Yes you absolutely should use them together. Tyler will detox your liver and Glucorell R relieves oxadative stress on the liver cells which allows the liver to heal itself better.

 

[Ulter]

hmmm.. know anywhere else I can get a hold of Tyler Liver Detox? AF store won't ship this to Canada, some kind of restricitons i'm guessin...

Sorry bro, Health Canada says you can't have Tyler Liver Detox.

 

[lrg&inCHARGE]

Stupid Health Canada... lol, why would they not let me have something that supposed to "detox" my liver... hahaha

 

[buffalo]

Stupid Health Canada... lol, why would they not let me have something that supposed to "detox" my liver... hahaha

Guess that free health insurance ain't so good after all. J/K

 

[lrg&inCHARGE]

hahaha

 

[Nighthawkk]

I've always just used 1000mg milk thistle and 300-500mg ALA daily with orals and liver values were always normal range post-cycle

 

[saintjohn]

ok, great. last couple questions. does anyone know of any studies or supportive data for synthergine, milk thistle or glucorell r? any studies been done that prove synthergine is the better of them or that glucorell r is better than milk thistle? thanks everyone.

 

[bluehen]

Would any of these hinder your gains if you use them during a cycle?

 

[fugetaboutit]

Would any of these hinder your gains if you use them during a cycle?

I've heard yes, and I've heard no. This is the Q I would like to hear peoples' opinions on.

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

Tyler Liver Detox Factor and Glucorell R.
You can get Tyler from your doctor or order it from The AF Store. Glucorell R is much more potent then Alpha Lipoic Acid.

You can get Tyler at GNC's and health food stores.

Put thats a good combo...Tyler and Glucorell R...I still have a stash of Gluorell R left over form a bulk order so im still using it...but im almost out

 

[lilred]

where do you get Synthergine? Sorry if someone has already answered this.

 

[BrandonXJ]

This was from that bor's sig who posted up about it. Never heard of it before, but I've been out for a while. Personally I got my Tyler on order from AF right now.

http://www.synthetek.com/Products/Synthergine/rgineprices.html

 

[Ulter]

You can get Tyler at GNC's and health food stores.

Put thats a good combo...Tyler and Glucorell R...I still have a stash of Gluorell R left over form a bulk order so im still using it...but im almost out

No you can not buy Tyler in a health food store or GNC. Call the manufacturer and ask them if they sell to the public or health food stores. 1 (800) 931-1709

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

I just assumed you could...there is a little health food store in my area...i asked the guy(who i know) if he had it...he said he didnt but he could order it for me...a few day later i had some...Maybe he has some connections...I figured anyone could get it...Maybe im just lucky

 

[the real big a]

ok, great. last couple questions. does anyone know of any studies or supportive data for synthergine, milk thistle or glucorell r? any studies been done that prove synthergine is the better of them or that glucorell r is better than milk thistle? thanks everyone.

For Synthergine just do a search for each of its ingredients and you will find tons of medical data on each ingredient.

Milk thistle has lots of so called studies, but I have yet to see a proper medically controlled study. Doesn't mean that it hasn't been done but I just haven't seen one yet.

Glucorell I have no idea as I have no experience with it.

 

[the real big a]

Would any of these hinder your gains if you use them during a cycle?

How can having a healthy liver hinder you in any way??

 

[the real big a]

where do you get Synthergine? Sorry if someone has already answered this.

One of the sponsors - www.synthetek.com

It's been around for over 4 years and the members at my board and lots of others have been using it for years. You can go there and just do a Search for it.

 

[BIGJAKE]

Tylers

 

[lilred]

I have hepatits C would it help me to take this on a regular basis-no juice

 

[bluehen]

How can having a healthy liver hinder you in any way??

Health is a primary importance, my question is some people say milk thistle and some of the liver protectants will clear out the drug from your system before it is fully used. I just wanted to know if that is true or not.

 

[Ulter]

How can having a healthy liver hinder you in any way??

His question stems from the use of the glucarate in the product which has been shown to cause excretion of sex hormones. So understandably people assume that if it does that and they are taking sex hormones (steroids) that the product would then cause them to lose some of it.

 

[Ulter]

I have hepatits C would it help me to take this on a regular basis-no juice

YES you should be using Glucorell R daily. Dr Burt Berkson at New Mexico State University has a liver clinic and he treats all this patients with lipoic acid. And Glucorell R is several times more potent than what he uses.

 

[lilred]

YES you should be using Glucorell R daily. Dr Burt Berkson at New Mexico State University has a liver clinic and he treats all this patients with lipoic acid. And Glucorell R is several times more potent than what he uses.

Thanx, I think I will try it.

 

[asianlover]

Bro Liv 52 will do nothing for 17aa meds. It's for poison mushrooms and organic toxins, at best

Wish i had known that in my misguided youth.

 

[Ulter]

not THOSE mushrooms gearhead