Liquidex substitute for clomid post cycle?

[Soma]

I was wondering if i could use liquidex post cycle instead of clomid. Here's why i ask- clomid blocks estrogen receptors in the hypothalamus and the pituitary right? This tricks the body into wanting an increase in estrogen therefore the body must make more test(increase in GnRH at hypothalamus and then LH at the pituitary) to make estro.

But if there is little to no estrogen in the body by using L-dex post cycle( say .5mg ed is that enough or 1 mg?) THen there would be the same situation b/c instead of blocking the receptors from estro they would be empty(in the case of L-dex use). So could one recover in the same way as they would with clomid by using L-dex? Just curious.

-Soma

 

[bigfatty]

Quoting Huck : by blocking off overall E production,the hypothalamus and pituitary compensate by creating more of their catalystic hormones(GnRH,L/H)in hopes that by producing more T,that enzymatic conversion will bring E levels back in line.What these glands don't know however,is that the enzyme responsible for this(aromitase)is being blocked off at the testicular level.So using liquidex actually creates an optimal hormonal environment,one rich in T production and starved in E production.

Only thing is that this is in normaly functioning testes. Coming off a cycle you have negligble test production.

Clomid is synthetic estrogen. The body senses an increase in estrogen and produces test to counter it.

Clomid being so cheap (about $1 for 50mg) makes it a no-brainer. This is the main ingredient in good post cycle recovery.

I think using both post cycle would be better than just using clomid.

 

[bigfatty]

Oh and doses .5mg /1mg ed is common. I would start out at .5 mg because everyone is different and .5mg seems to be okay for most. You can always increase to fit your needs.

 

[Soma]

As i understand it when the body senses an increase in estrogen it lowers natural T production, b/c the body needs the T to create the E through aromatization... If it raised Testosterone b/c of increased estrogen it would be a neverending cycle....increase estro->increased T-> increased estro...Clomid blocks estro receptors in the hypo and pituitary...so it thinks there is very little or no estrogen in the body. Clomid only acts as an estrogen in some tissues but not in the hypo and pituitary..I was trying to recreate this hypo/pituitary lack of estrogen situation by using L-dex...i still dont see why this wouldnt work. Does clomid serve some other function in recovery besides blocking the hypo and pituitary from estrogen?

I am gonna be running powder Ox at 30 mgs for 8 weeks... and want to go post cycle with L-dex.... I dont know if i will be completely shut down(or shut down significantly anyway) after this Ox only cycle. WHat do y'all think? Thanks

-Soma

 

[bigfatty]

Well since you are using OX for such a short time with relatively low doseages I don't see why you couldn't get away with ldex alone post cycle.

 

[Ulter]

With 30mg of ox you could go without either one so dex is just as good as clomid here.

 

[drveejay11]

Quoting Huck : by blocking off overall E production,the hypothalamus and pituitary compensate by creating more of their catalystic hormones(GnRH,L/H)in hopes that by producing more T,that enzymatic conversion will bring E levels back in line.What these glands don't know however,is that the enzyme responsible for this(aromitase)is being blocked off at the testicular level.So using liquidex actually creates an optimal hormonal environment,one rich in T production and starved in E production.

Only thing is that this is in normaly functioning testes. Coming off a cycle you have negligble test production.

Clomid is synthetic estrogen. The body senses an increase in estrogen and produces test to counter it.

Clomid being so cheap (about $1 for 50mg) makes it a no-brainer. This is the main ingredient in good post cycle recovery.

I think using both post cycle would be better than just using clomid.

EXACTLY! You need clomid bro!