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A Tuesday night raid in a quiet Metairie neighborhood was part of an investigation into alleged steroid sales over the Internet, according to Jefferson Parish officials.


Sheriff Harry Lee said Edward and Natalie Barton were allegedly manufacturing steroids and gamma butyrolactone (GBL) at a lab in their in their Tabony Street home.
The Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency, and U.S. Customs agents were at the home Tuesday night removing containers of a white powder.
WWL-TV
Several barrels were removed from the home
Lee said the business the couple allegedly ran, liquidresearch.com, mixed the chemicals and distributed them via the Internet and in the metro New Orleans area.
Edward Barton was charged with possession with intent to distribute anabolic steroids, creation of clandestine lab, possession of GBL (a compound synonymous with steroid use), possession of marijuana, and possession of controlled dangerous substance in the presence of minor, the couple’s 3-year-old son.

Natalie Barton was charged with creation of clandestine lab, possession of GBL, possession of marijuana, and possession of controlled dangerous substance in the presence of minor.
Christopher Durel, identified as an employee of the operation, was charged with creation of clandestine lab and possession of GBL.
Officials said the investigation is ongoing to determine magnitude of the operation.
An unnamed relative of the Barton’s, who said they work with the couple in their home, said they have done nothing illegal.

According to a disclaimer on the website, “all research products offered by Liquid Research are intended for laboratory and research use only.”
 
METAIRIE, La. -- Investigators have arrested three people and the probe is expanding after chemicals were seized Tuesday in what officials are calling the largest drug bust in the history of the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office.

Edward Barton, 27, Natalie Barton, 25, and Christopher Durel, 26, face charges that include possession with intent to distribute an illegal substance, possession of a controlled substance and operating an illegal lab.

Tuesday at about 10:30 p.m., agents with the DEA and the Jefferson Parish Narcotics Unit, and members of the Jefferson Parish Fire Department and the U.S. Postal Inspector's Office confiscated more than a dozen containers from the home in the 4700 block of Tabony Street in Metairie. Hazardous materials crews were then brought in to help clear out the house.

Investigators said the Bartons were selling the substance GBL -- a precursor to the date rape drug GHB -- out of the home and over the Internet. The Bartons allegedly were operating under the company name NuRave Inc.

In addition to the chemicals, agents also seized marijuana from the home, Sheriff Harry Lee said.

The Bartons have a 3-year-old child. It was not immediately clear whether the child was in the home at the time of the arrests.

Investigators are analyzing computer data and customer lists seized in the raid, and more charges may be forthcoming.

Neighbors told WDSU NewsChannel 6 reporter Heath Allen that the residents of the home were new to the neighborhood, were friends of the homeowner and had moved in a couple of months ago. Neighbors said a man who lives at the home made his living selling a growth hormone.
Copyright 2004 by TheNewOrleansChannel.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
 
I highly doubt they had GBL. Every time the feds do a drug bust they throw in that they found GHB to get more media attention. When DL got busted the news said the same thing. He told me afterward that he never had any at all. They made that up along with DNP. :rolleyes: Cause it wouldn't be much of a story if they said they busted just a "research company".

The smartest guy I know started this whole Liquidex thing a long time ago and he got out a while ago. He told me all this open attention is going to bring everyone down. He got out completely. I bet he's smiling really big right now. :D
 
Fucking blows... what were the steroids they were distributing though?...

I guess liquid research companies are not quite as secure as we would have hoped... looks like whatever loophole existed isn't what we had thought.
 
I've said it since the first of these openly advertising web-sites opened up,and I'll say it again-Make enough noise and draw as much attention to what you're doing,and eventually the wrong ears will start to listen.These guys act like they're selling candy,when in fact they are selling prescription DRUGS.That being said,the GBL,Gear and other shit is what really hammered the home run in for Law Enforcement.
 
Holy Shit! What a bummer. I thought the owners name was Mike. LR was selling AAS too? Interesting.
 
possession of GBL (a compound synonymous with steroid use)
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Since when? I remember when GHB was sold legally as a health food supp but never GBL.

Seems trumped up to me to...

They found marijuana! Hardcore! :p

What a waste of our tax $'s!
 
That is bullshit, how about these companies selling mushroom spores, they are for research only but you can grow your own shrooms with them? They will be going to prison for a long time? Federal 90% of people go to prison. thats fucked up.
 
what are they going to do to people who bought from them go into there home looking for research equipment? Yea right i'm sure alot of people bought from them.
 
The Terminator said:


This is the phrase some of our members here might be concerned with...
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Investigators are analyzing computer data and customer lists seized in the raid, and more charges may be forthcoming.

YES INDEED:mad:
 
The Terminator said:


This is the phrase some of our members here might be concerned with...
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Possession is 9/10 of the law. Records don't mean shit unless they turn up actual evidence. I don't think people have much to worry about. I highly doubt the DEA will bother with everyone of LR's customers. My God they must number is the thousands!
 
Juice Authority said:


Possession is 9/10 of the law. Records don't mean shit unless they turn up actual evidence. I don't think people have much to worry about. I highly doubt the DEA will bother with everyone of LR's customers. My God they must number is the thousands!
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But, if local authorities are contacted and having nothing better to do (and that happens), then they may pay certain people visits...
Better to be safe than sorry...
 
Damn, that's crazy, I used to live in New Orleans. Kind of ironic that people driving intoxicated is not an issue to them, yet they bust these people. So stupid.
 
The Terminator said:


But, if local authorities are contacted and having nothing better to do (and that happens), then they may pay certain people visits...
Better to be safe than sorry...
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That's true especially where I live. Cops have nothing better to do than break up teenage parties on the weekends.
 
The members who have dealt with them are likely to be contacted. Just like they will be contacted when the other "liquid guys" get busted. You can expect to see a rash of these in the next couple months.
The reason people will be contacted is that they will ask you to be part of the prosecution and testify for the DEA. As one DEA official put it to a guy I know who was buying from a similar source in NYC, "would like to be part of the prosecution or the defense?"
 
Were they really selling AAS? I never saw it listed.


Take away the AAS (allegedly) and GLB and what charges would they have faced?

When someone does an operation like this, they should know full well not to fuck around with rec stuff. And the pot shouldn't have been there at all.
 
Themachine01 said:
So is it realistic to say that everyone who has bought such things as liquidex off of them should be concerned?
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I can't imagine that's really the case. If you just bought from them last week, then maybe you might want to clean house. But if you bought 1 bottle of liquidex 6 months ago, what good would it do to come knocking on your door now?
 
ulter said:
The members who have dealt with them are likely to be contacted. Just like they will be contacted when the other "liquid guys" get busted. You can expect to see a rash of these in the next couple months.
The reason people will be contacted is that they will ask you to be part of the prosecution and testify for the DEA. As one DEA official put it to a guy I know who was buying from a similar source in NYC, "would like to be part of the prosecution or the defense?"
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but can they try to press charges against anyone that bought off of them?
 
fuck i was just about to place an order of nolva shit it must be fate
 
this blows..

i wonder if the steroid comment was directed at the clen they sold..
 
You would think that knowing the kind of stuff they sell, that they wouldn't keep a customer list. Maybe the last few weeks worth of customers, to insure that everyone got their delivery like they were supposed to. But a list of everyone would just show the government how much of this stuff you've been selling and for how long. What kind of sense does that make?
 
shit I just bought a bottle of ldex from them a few days ago... urrrrrrgghh :mad:

hmm the last thing I bought from them was liquiclen and liquiT3 a few months ago (which was shit but thats neither here nor there)
 
I thought their products sucked and the TA was pretty bad as well. Sure is a wake up call
 
bad news, they were way too out in the open though. Everyone knew about LR. Its was only a matter of time, as was stated by many people earlier :(
 
Ahhh shit. I am now using their liquid Nolva that I ordered a long like 3-4 months ago for my current PCT, but I did order some clen from then about a month ago, should I be worried? I cant just stop my PCT, so WTF should I do?
 
It will depend on how strong of case they have and how much help they think they'll need to get a conviction. Since the house had AS, GBL and Marijuana in it they probably won't need much help. Add to that, they bought the items themselves in the sting.
But if they do need help they will contact the customers within the state of LA who purchased the most damaging items several times. I think they sold clen so that would be one. Otherwise you have little to worry about. They bust the whore not the johns.
 
Calm down Little Rage... Easier said than done...

Clean house and if they come and see you, don't be scared, they've got nothing.

If you are not a dealer, I wouldn't worry.

Do you live with people who don't know about your AS use?
 
my roommate knows i use them: my girl does not, she knows i have a few years ago.

they do have my contact addy and phone in the order.

no dealer.
 
Scary stuff indeed, but also, it never amazes me the greed and stupidity of people. I mean they had a successful business and then mess that up by selling / having drugs around. There defense would have been much better if they would have stuck to their chemical products.
 
bought some T3 and Cialis with CC in early DEC. Maybe they wont send any harrassment my way. Either way, house cleaning is in order....at least for a good while anyway. gotta find a good place for a stash.
 
I had 40 gallons of 1,4 and never even got a misdemeanor and not a single person ever got contacted. Oh yea, hard to make GASOLINE into 1,4 and can't contact customers not in a computer!

HAHA!
 
Little Rage said:
i think i'm going to have a heart attack over here...
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You will most likely be ok. Relax. Though, its funny the website is still up and running as normal. I wonder if the cops will operated it for a while. Kind of reminds me of the story you always hear about the drug dealers that get raided and then people keep coming up to the front of house to get stuff and the cops bust them and lead them out the back in cuffs.

I think trying to go after all of the old customers will be a lost cause at this point for them. Though they may find a few rats to testify.
 
Keep in mind the article posted was written by a newspaper. Saying things like "GHB" and "Steroids" only juices the print up.

It wouldn't be the first time a paper made shit up to sound more interestiing.
 
Juice Authority said:


Possession is 9/10 of the law. Records don't mean shit unless they turn up actual evidence. I don't think people have much to worry about. I highly doubt the DEA will bother with everyone of LR's customers. My God they must number is the thousands!
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You say that, but in reality what counts is legal bills.

This is an exact parallel of what DirecTV did. They were able to obtain records of a company that sold electronics and then filled lawsuits against all customers that bought smart card programmers, which are perfectly legal. They claimed they are theft devices and sued - they were wrong but it doesn't matter - they flexed their muscle and thousands settled for thousands of dollars, others went to litigation and spent even more on attorneys fees.

Sure, in this case they can't prove possession - but they may be able to obtain a search warrant from a crazy judge and find even more incriminating evidence or simply file charges and force you to hire an attorney and cost you lots of money.

Lets get this over to the legal forum for review my Rick Collins. I don't want to be chicken little, but if the DEA or FDA gets a hard on for someone they maybe able to get a warrant....
 
genarr3 said:
Keep in mind the article posted was written by a newspaper. Saying things like "GHB" and "Steroids" only juices the print up.

It wouldn't be the first time a paper made shit up to sound more interestiing.
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Yep...GHB and Steroids are the evil scoundrel of the universe...AND they sell papers and make catchy headlines...:rolleyes:

"research chemicals" do not...:(
 
don't want to spook people here, but the us government has more power than ever with the patriot act, specifically the power they weild under section 215.

i would be very, very wary even if you are just a 'peon' on the east coast. they have shitloads of time, money, brains and computing power and they want to prove to the moral majority that they are enforcing bush's recent comments in his state of the union address.

that being said, someone should place an order for a shitload of liquid viagra and send it to dubya, cheney and ashcroft :D.
 
LR has been promoting his products on the boards for over a year now. When he first started off he undercut the market considerably and grabbed a good chunck of the market share. They have undoubedly shipped out products to thousands of people over the course of a year. What a tedious and expensive task it would be to go after each and every individual who ordered from them. Most people ordered liquid ancillaries, which are not controlled substances. The DEA has bigger fish to fry with their limited resoruces. They go after suppliers, not consumers. If you ordered small quantities of this or that I highly doubt you would be at risk.
 
JA:
that's what i'm hoping that they see the order of 1 bottle of ldex and just pocket the money b/c it is not legal to order or have, and it is just so small... I'm hoping they are just concerned with the large quantities of products that were purchased and anything related to gbl.
 
Little Rage said:
JA:
that's what i'm hoping that they see the order of 1 bottle of ldex and just pocket the money b/c it is not legal to order or have, and it is just so small... I'm hoping they are just concerned with the large quantities of products that were purchased and anything related to gbl.
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If you are that worried, when you recieve it just return it to sender...You never ordered it...
 
I seriously doubt they are going to bother going after customers of LR. The charges here are not likely going to be for possesion of AAS, GHB, etc... They will more likely be charged with misbranding. Unfortunately, they are likely looking at a five year federal stay... 85% served before parole.
 
A very good "friend" of mine placed an order for T3 and Liquidex on Jan 30, 2004. Payment was processed on Monday Feb. 1 2004. It may arrive today. I'll keep everyone posted.
 
YES! They are going to go after everyone who bought liquidex from LR, Run Run.......
 
I would think patent infringment on certain products ( tadalafil etc ) and tax evasion would be potential problems.
 
They have a pretty good disclaimer on thier web site. It looks like they spoke with a lawyer before writing it up. I would agree that the weed and patent infringements are the only obvious problems but I wouldn't doubt that tax evasion would be present too.
 
Little Rage, read the link Huck posted.

The cops are already showing up to talk to people at the request of the DEA. I think that guy just ordered 1 Liquid Clomid in December...
 
holy shit im fucking wigging out over here. i just saw this. i made an order in december for dex, clomid, and nolva. im mid cycle and i just dont know what to do. the order was made on my debit card too. i live in small town so your know.

help.
 
ksosa said:
shit I just bought a bottle of ldex from them a few days ago... urrrrrrgghh :mad:

hmm the last thing I bought from them was liquiclen and liquiT3 a few months ago (which was shit but thats neither here nor there)
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Deny the charges on your credit card bro
 
yea im not that worried anymore. it was one bottle of ldex, i am way north of them, live in the city (there are bigger things to worry about), everything is clean, it was a money order (just cash), so i didn't break any laws, and i never ordered it. :D
 
Wow!

You guys used credit cards?

Good luck on that, too as the gov now has unmitigated powers to go into anybody's account at anytime without telling you or a judge or the bank thanks too the anti-freedom (patriot) act.

Damn, guess you shoulda done the SAFE thing and used cash!
 
Animal said:
Wow!

You guys used credit cards?

Good luck on that, too as the gov now has unmitigated powers to go into anybody's account at anytime without telling you or a judge or the bank thanks too the anti-freedom (patriot) act.

Damn, guess you shoulda done the SAFE thing and used cash!
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It's great to be a Monday morning Quarterback. Hindsight is 20/20. Thanks for sharing. :rolleyes:
 
athlete0185 said:
holy shit im fucking wigging out over here.
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who fucking cares? everyone ordered research products from them....if i ordered 500 bottles of something i might be worried but if you were ordering the occasional research product there is nothing to worry about.
 
That's what EVERYBODY thought about other chemicals from operation webslinger, too.

All of them arrested that day are in jail and/or have lost everything and are going through trial except for one.
 
Lift Chief said:
Fucking blows... what were the steroids they were distributing though?...

I guess liquid research companies are not quite as secure as we would have hoped... looks like whatever loophole existed isn't what we had thought.
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One article I read said that one of the suspects was a know growth dealer.
 
Either way, it still sucks. You never know how long they may wait to contact you. 3 months might go by and then when you get comfy....they show up.
I ordered T3 and Cialis...maybe they'll think I am a fat old horny guy who cant get it up.
 
So it's now illegal to buy and use a breast cancer drug that is not even illegal to posses? Hell, even if you ordered clen, what would they do? They couldn't call you a dealer or anything. Or am I missing the point?

Further more, if the government wants to throw people in jail for using clomid.... turn the other cheek. Someday people will look back on all this stupid prohibition and think, "Gee, that was just like it was in the 20s." Didn't work then, won't ever work.

Anyway, hope no buyers go to jail over this. If so, laws have just gotten really really out of hand.- you aren't hurting yourself (with nolva), you aren't hurting someone else- then why is it illegal?

Jacob
 
Lumberg said:
You know what?

I would chill and not worry about it.
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agreed. If anyone comes asking questions, tell then you know nothing. Dont answer anything under any circumstances. They want the suppliers more than anything else. But they may ask you to help fry the Big fish. I just would not answer anything.
 
Colonel Clinks voice: "I know nozing!"

then slam the door.

would help if you were wearing a WWII German officer's uniform.
 
It's illegal to buy and possess, in this country, a prescription drug without a prescription. Not controlled is not the same as not illegal.

They also bust people for buying and selling antibiotics in the same manner even though in some states OTC antibiotic sales are the norm and are legal without a script.
 
Originally posted by Juice Authority
Originally posted by Animal
Wow!

You guys used credit cards?

Good luck on that, too as the gov now has unmitigated powers to go into anybody's account at anytime without telling you or a judge or the bank thanks too the anti-freedom (patriot) act.

Damn, guess you shoulda done the SAFE thing and used cash!
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It's great to be a Monday morning Quarterback. Hindsight is 20/20. Thanks for sharing. :rolleyes:
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Animal has good reason to be bitter. His battles with the feds are legendary.
 
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