Liquid Letro and Prami Log

[Musclebound30]

Surgery is the only way bro's. You see the painfully itchy and lumpieness
can be resolved with these meds but over time you grow fat cells in the breast area. These cell get bigger when you gain body fat and smaller when you loose body far but nevery really go away. They are fat cells there to stay and none of those pills will kill fat cells. If they did deminish by taking letro and such it would take a very long time on these meds to do so and not to good for the rest of your indocrine system. One the puff is there it just there. I have a little puffiness as well and I was taking pharmacy compounded gear and anistrozole and all the pct gear as well. I tell you the lower doses of the real deal do just as good as 1g of ugl stuff. That goes for the anti-estrogens as well.

 

[Eu.Era]

I dont think that is true, through all my research i have read puffy nipples is a hormone problem. Nipples cant get fat, they can however get glandular tissue behind them. If you search on google there are a lot of cases of men getting puffy nipples from drinking too much beer. too much beer raises estrogen levels.

 

[Musclebound30]

Sorry I'm not at all trying to discourage you. I hope that your right. I guess it all depends on what is the root cause but I would say on this site for most it is aas. Estrogen causes you to store fat in the same areas as a woman would and your body will grow more fat cells and tissue as well as store water in that area. It is a well known fact that surgery is the only way to remove bitch tits which are fat cells and tissue that have grown there. Just a little puffiness is probably fat which comes along with elevated estrogen levels (the beginning of bitch tits). This also occurs on the hips and butt as well. It is water and fat tissue. If it is just slight hopefully your program will work for you. How is it going so far? I've read Jigga14's log of what he has experienced so far. I would like to see how it works out for him and you because I truly hope it does work for the sake of all bros. Keep us posted and best of luck to you.

 

[Jigga14]

Hey muscle bound 40, thanks for the support, and insights. I agree with you to an extent.

My biggest problem with gyno was the small ball like tissue under my nipple, it was sensitive and painful at times. Using the right products has reduced the size and sensitivity of the tissue.

Now once I have reduced it to nil, there will still be the tissue and fat glands there, even if I cannot feel them. I will still be predisposed to developing gyno there again if my estrogen levels get out of hand again. It's something that I have to live with and manage.

The good news tho is that the main symptom will be gone (painfully ball like tissue)

My nipple might still be abit puffy at times and the gland will still be there, but i will have mitigated the main symptom, which is a score for me.

I wonder how midevil's gyno turned out.

All the best!

 

[Eu.Era]

I understand the only way to remove fat cells is through lipo suction, but that does not mean bitch tits caused from fat are permanent and can only be fixed with surgery. How can it be possible for a man with a big beer belly get a ripped 6 pack without liposuction if as like you say you cant get rid of fat cells without it. Fat cells shrink, this is how we lose weight. The best way to get rid of gyno caused by fat deposits imo is to lower your bf levels, perform some kind of HIIT fasted first thing in the morning with yohimbine, and apply yohimbine topically to the area 2-3x a day. Possibly use an EC stack also. Once you get to single digit bf doing this your gyno will be pretty un noticable. Do this along with the usual letro course provided by needto for example if you have lumps.

 

[johnsonx19]

Ask yourself this question, if a woman with DD breasts goes on a strict diet and workouts crazy to cut body fat you think her boobs are gonna shrink down to a b cup? The point is when breast tissue has formed no amount of shredding up will resolve the breast tissue associated with untreated gyno. Trust i would know

 

[Eu.Era]

John im not sure if that is a serious question, of course a womans breasts will get smaller if she loses weight. My mom lost about 30 pounds and went from an E to a C. You hardly ever see very lean females with large breasts that are natural.

http://www.nowloss.com/reduce-breast-size.htm

 

[johnsonx19]

John im not sure if that is a serious question, of course a womans breasts will get smaller if she loses weight. My mom lost about 30 pounds and went from an E to a C. You hardly ever see very lean females with large breasts that are natural.

You failed to see my point. I didn't say breast size didn't go down with weight loss and i wasn't really trying to emphasize on female breasts so much. Why would you need to know your moms cup size anyway haa! jk Breasts are not just made up of fat so my point was that in a lot of cases fat loss will do nothing to reduce gynecomastia and could even just make it more noticeable sadly. Many scenarios with gyno obviously

 

[Eu.Era]

You failed to see my point. I didn't say breast size didn't go down with weight loss and i wasn't really trying to emphasize on female breasts so much. Why would you need to know your moms cup size anyway haa! jk Breasts are not just made up of fat so my point was that in a lot of cases fat loss will do nothing to reduce gynecomastia and could even just make it more noticeable sadly. Many scenarios with gyno obviously

ok but is it an actual fact that lumps caused by gynaecomastia aside that puffy nipples are casued by breast tissue and not just fat.

 

[NYJUICEMAN]

Puffy nipples could possibly be gland, fat, or even both. . Taking anti estrogens while dropping bodyfat will significantly reduce the appearance of puffy nipples.

 

[Musclebound30]

Regardless of what type of growth it is it is still breast tissue because it is growing on your breast. Dropping body fat may help but it will not go away and you will still notice it although if it's not that bad no one else will know it is Gyno. The problem is that once the cells form in that area they don't just die when you take a so called "Gyno killer" drug like letro and prami. Also the fat tissue that is there if any of it is fat will only shrink when you drop body fat but not go away permanently. Don't let anyone fool you into buying a drug to get rid of any tussue once it has already formed. However it will get rid of the knots and pain and prevent the growth of tissue. The purpose of taking any AI is to prevent Gyno not destroy it since they only stop aromatization and Gyno from occurring, not destroy tissue.

Also anyone that cannot control Gyno with AI's should find a new research source/med supplier and/or go see your doctor, if that's not the problem, cut back on the juice because your taking more than you need and it is all going to estrogen because all the receptors are already full.

Just wanted to point out these drugs are for prevention and do nothing to rid you of what already has occurred other than knots, pain and itchyness, so save your money, start dieting, and if dieting does not work you need surgery if you are bothered by it.

Prevention is key and some people here would love to sell you more drugs you don't need. Sure try it for a little while but don't hurt yourself with this stuff. IT IS FOR PREVENTION!

 

[NYJUICEMAN]

plenty of studies where SERMS reduce pubertal gyno...^^^this guy doesnt know a thing

 

[Musclebound30]

I know exactly what I'm talking about. Dr. Who? Go read my post again. I never said that it couldn't be reduced a little but apparently the puffiness that these guy want to get rid of is still there and they have been taking a boat load of anti estrogens and Aromatase inhibitors. I have not met one person that has been able to significantly reduce Gyno with anything including "serms". And if you don't think these meds are for prevention then go ask a endocrinologist and see what they tell you. I'm just trying to save these guys some hard earned money that they could be putting towards surgery. They simply will not do enough to rid you of your bitch tits. Read the posts and logs set up by some of the folks here.

 

[johnsonx19]

This guy knows his shit. Once the breast tissue is formed u need surgery point blank

 

[simonsaid2]

Any updates!? How's the taper coming along with the Greatwhite letro?

Looking forward to hearing how you're doin bro.

 

[midevilironsmasher]

So its probably been 8-10 weeks since iv'e been on here and its because I didn't want to give any false reports. I wanted to give a firm answer on my attempt to reduce/eliminate the gyno. I can say that I am almost 100% sure that the gyno is gone. Where there was little hard lumps there is now what feels like an empty space. So it proves that the company you go with is extremely important as I went through 2 before I found some that actually worked. I used Great white to get rid of the gyno. Now the reason I said "almost 100%" is because I just recently tapered off the letro/prami so we will see if somehow it comes back. As a safety precaution I have tons of letro and prami for later on. I hope my log helped some of you out. If you have any questions just let me know.

 

[jvandy50]

how are your symptoms? just got done reading the thread...hope its ALL gone!

 

[Raff]

Quick question about the letro, guys. If I'm running it at 2.5mg/day. Just taking it once a day is fine right? Do I have to split that 2.5 into two doses of 1.25? Thanks in advance!

 

[OhSoFresh]

musclebound is wrong, there are many many people who have an success reducing and eliminating their gyno with these kinds of drugs. people who say surgery is the only option are absolutely wrong

 

[Raff]

Just wanted to update you guys on my gyno removal run. Been alittle over 30 days now on letro at 2.5mg. The gyno lump has only gotten alittle mushier, like it's just now starting to break down. At this rate, I'd have to be on letro for like 6mo to 1 yr! Pretty sure my CEM Letro was underdosed cuz gyno just got to a certain mushiness & stopped. So then my AG guys letro came in, and that must've been correctly dosed cuz it got the gyno shrinking again. I've now thrown in Nolva at 20mg/day but nothing is happening really. Blah....

 

[wamy]

I've been taking RUI letro at 2.5 mg per day for 2 weeks. I haven't noticed any results other than reduced sensitivity.

Should I go with another research company?

 

[eljimmy310]

Does anyone know how I can contact needto? Tried sending a message but wouldn't go through. Or does he go by a different name now?

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