Thanks for all the info! You guys were a lot of help. I am researching clen and decided to use it before I cycle. I am about 20% BF and would like to get down to about 10%-12% BF before I actually start my aas cycle. If its as good as everybody is saying I tihnk I will use the liquid. I did a price comp on the liquid and pill form from another company it seems I am getting much more for the price when calculating the mg and price. seems AG is the way to go!