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LiquiClen Question (not the same as others)
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swordfish151
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vokab said:
your saying your taking 300mcg's??? you sure you got that right?? is it AG stuff..cause i will tell you what..if it is and your taking 300mcgs....your fingers would be all crossed over each other and you wouldnt be able to type my friend...so lets get it straight..shall we..
BigGunsInc.
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do MORE research
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swordfish151 said:
yeah that's right. It is ag stuff. 200 mcg/ml and i'm at 1.5 ml. I don't really have trouble typing but forget about writting anything when the shakes are peaking. I was under the impression that you could take pretty much any dose as long as you can stand the sides. The only side I have is a little more than mild shakes and they don't bother me... So when dose the dose become unsafe?
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Mr.X
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vokab said:
do a search on the board, there are other people that don't have CNS responses to clen. 300mcg is too much, don't go that high. If you are, I suggest you stop the clen and take a break. No CNS response is common for about 30% of the population, so I've seen this many times. Like I said, take a break for a few week before you consider getting back on.
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swordfish151
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vokab said:
Listen to Mr.X bro..that is a really high dose..and come on bro..just cause you can take the sides at higher dosages, doesnt mean you should...do you know how to cycle the clen?
BigGunsInc.
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hence the reason i said do more research. if you had done any kind of research, you would know that the dose you are at is WAY TO F-ING high.
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Mr.X said:
If i had no CNS responce to clen would i still get shakes? I've been on it for a week now and was planning on the two weeks on two weeks off like i did last time. Do you still suggest going off for a while? and for future reference where should one stop the dosage? thanks for your help.
BigGunsInc.
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bro, i didnt mean to flame so if you took it that way i am sorry. i would hate to see someone hurt themselves with anything they are taking. i think that most bros would say they top out at about 160 and i have heard of a couple that get up to 200. you might want to cycle down on it a bit and take a couple of weeks off to let you system regulate. then pyrimid the clen up to around the 140 mcg range and hold from around day 7-12 and decrease slightly the last two days "on". be sure to take taurine 3-5 grams daily and potasium 300 mgs at night. hope this helps
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BigGunsInc.
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BigGunsInc. said:
oh, i personally top out at 140 mcg's
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vokab said:
let me rephrase my response, you ARE getting a CNS response (you didn't mention the shakes) but your body can adapt to higher dosages which is not somwhere you want to be (300mcg). Take 2-4 weeks off and get back on clen BUT very light, start at 20mcg and move up to 120mcg tops, 2 weeks on/2 off. Don't think that MORE is better, moderation is better in this situation. Just stay safe.
you have all the answers here...now go take a break from the clen.
Mr.X
Another thing is I haven't been experienceing cramping like I did on my last cycle. Can someone make some sence of this. I did a two week cycle of clen about a month go with tabs. tapered up and peaked at 80. I had mild shakes and mild cramping. This time around I use liquid and the fist couple of days it felt like before. I kept uping the doseage until i reached 300 and the sides seem less than when i was on 80 with the tabs. I understand that some people don't respond the clen but i did the first time round. I also understand that continued use will downgrade the efectivness but I noticed from about day 3-4 the sides were if anything getting less noticable even with a higher dose.
swordfish151
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Borg4902 said:
Taurine MUST be used with Clen at 3-5g daily. Clenbuterol depletes taurine
levels in the liver which stops the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver.
Taurine allows the user to avoid the dreaded rebound effect and painful muscle cramps. Its a must with Clen, as far as the pottasium i believe its for the cramps as well..could be wrong
BigGunsInc.
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swordfish151 said:
Correct!!
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Mr.X
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vokab said:
There you go, that's the answer, you just ran clen....like I told you before, TAKE A BREAK before you run it again. Most likely you downregulated your receptors and you're overusing it either way.
Sides are less, meaning you've adapted to the clen, i.e. downregulation of receptors, non-stimulation of CNS.
Like I just told you TAKE A BREAK from clen for aobut 4-8 weeks, I say up to 8 now because it's obvious you've downregulated your receptors.
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Mr.X said:
Thank you for your help and i will definatly take you advise. I was just under the impression that you started clen at 20mcg's and tapered up until sides were unbearable and you did this eithor two weeks on two weeks off, or two day on two days off. Guess It isn't that simple. Thanks again
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http://www.mmsfitness.com/profiles/clenbeuterol.htmJP_O said:
http://www.meso-rx.com/steroid-profiles/clenbuterol.htm
read that over as a start and try www.google.com
you'll find everything you need
anthony518
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I could not imagine taking that much clen. How are you cycling it? If you are slowing increasing the dosage that how did you have enough time to get to 300? I would level off at 200mcg no more.
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