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Lifting heavy vs. less weight/higher reps

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I feel like im going insane!!!!!! OK, so everytime i turn around, i hear, women have to train heavy! Well, my legs are about as hard as rocks, as is. And when i train heavy on legs, i can just FORGET wearing my sexy jeans that weekend.They BLOW up!!! =( I don't know what to do? I have my diet in check ...13 straight days w/o cheating!!! But anyhow..... is it possible for some women to build muscle easier than others? If so, should they NOT lift as heavy? HELP!!!!!
 
Thank you for posting this! I'm in the same boat as you! :) Would love to hear what some others have to say...
 
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I went out & bought new jeans -- from Old Navy, they are stretch so they fit my thighs..... my "junior" sized jeans no longer fit my thighs as they are cut narrow in the leg....
 
no shit...my quads are outta control again....Im going to back of quads to once every 10-12 days
 
In general, I think women's legs tend to grow faster than any of the muscle groups in their upper bodies when trained heavily. I too was in the same boat a couple of years ago - I gained on my legs pretty quickly.

YES women should train heavy. However, you might have to modify for the parts that grow faster. I found that doing leg exercises at a moderate weight (or bodyweight) at 8-10 reps works very well for me. This is where Shadow's TUT principle comes in. Go read it. Keep training everything else heavy.
 
First, eating clean for 13 days is FANTASTIC, but it is much more than only 13 days that will make the difference. Patience is key.

Finally, I have naturally muscular legs. I haven't lifted a weight for legs (besides bodyweight activities) in well over a year. No need. I can sculpt, define and harden my legs through plyometrics, kickboxing, running and LUNGES. I don't do ANY machines for legs.

I've posted my favorite leg workout here somewhere ... I'll check around for it ... no weights involved at all.
 
I have found that I'm having an issue with dress shirts fitting lately. They are extremely tight around my upper arms. I think they think all girls are built with poles for arms. I fit into a small around my stomach and ribs area, a large through the shoulders and for my wide back, and hardly a medium now for my arms.... So what size does that make me... ODD.
 
I have this same problem.. i have a 25 or less inch waiste and my shoulder to shoulder span is 20 inches.., bicepts 13 inches.

I have had to altar my work attire to be fitted nice tops rather than dress tops..

treilin said:
I have found that I'm having an issue with dress shirts fitting lately. They are extremely tight around my upper arms. I think they think all girls are built with poles for arms. I fit into a small around my stomach and ribs area, a large through the shoulders and for my wide back, and hardly a medium now for my arms.... So what size does that make me... ODD.
 
Well at least I don't feel alone on this matter! We should develop a line of clothing just for women with muscle... We could call it 'BMWFMW' By Muscular Woman, For Muscular Women.
 
I'm looking at this skirt & top outfit I bought 2 weeks before my first BB show. The skirt is a size 4-6, the blouse is a 12. Go figure. I regularly have a problem with button up shirts because of the width of my shoulders & back. Occassionally I feel the urge to "HULKIFY"! (RRAAARRRRR .....rips out seams on the shoulders & back)
 
Sassy69 said:
I'm looking at this skirt & top outfit I bought 2 weeks before my first BB show. The skirt is a size 4-6, the blouse is a 12. Go figure. I regularly have a problem with button up shirts because of the width of my shoulders & back. Occassionally I feel the urge to "HULKIFY"! (RRAAARRRRR .....rips out seams on the shoulders & back)

I can totally relate!!! I buy a 10 or a 12 in tops. I have this medium shirt on right now and feel like if I move the wrong way I'm going to be ripping out of it and I have a size 3/4 pants on. Funny... like I said our own clothing line.... That's what we need.
 
I admit i look like a club chick.. today in my corporate work place.. i had no choice.. nothing fits anymore!
 
Haaa do you have the CFMB (Come F*ck Me boots) on with the skirt ?
Yeah that gets guys attention... Also works well with promotion time... Mwahhhhhhaaa
Yeah I can't seem to find jeans to fit me at all. I wear a size 1/2 or 3/4 in a jean with a 33-34 inch length needed. I tell you I have a closet of high water jeans after you dry them they go even shorter... So I wear dress pants all the time.
 
treilin said:
Haaa do you have the CFMB (Come F*ck Me boots) on with the skirt ?
Yeah that gets guys attention... Also works well with promotion time... Mwahhhhhhaaa
Yeah I can't seem to find jeans to fit me at all. I wear a size 1/2 or 3/4 in a jean with a 33-34 inch length needed. I tell you I have a closet of high water jeans after you dry them they go even shorter... So I wear dress pants all the time.


How tall are you?
 
I wanted to be 5'9" or 5'10" for runway modeling... that just wasn't in the genes... so I only got to do print work. ALthough I was thinking of maybe trying out fitness modeling... Since I really don't have the anorexic... drug addict look... and look pretty fit.
 
treilin said:
I wanted to be 5'9" or 5'10" for runway modeling... that just wasn't in the genes... so I only got to do print work. ALthough I was thinking of maybe trying out fitness modeling... Since I really don't have the anorexic... drug addict look... and look pretty fit.


Go for it......I went for a modeling "look at" and then signed an acting agreement with a company in Atlanta a few years ago....did a couple of print work deals for trade magazines...that was a while back though.......had an audition for a soap and was told I was too big as I was 30 pounds heavier than the dude who got the part.........
 
NaH .. i had the boots on but none of my skirts fit.. so i opted for a pair of black flared strechy/dressy pants and tight red top..

Today i admit.. im asking for it :chomp:

treilin said:
Haaa do you have the CFMB (Come F*ck Me boots) on with the skirt ?
Yeah that gets guys attention... Also works well with promotion time... Mwahhhhhhaaa
Yeah I can't seem to find jeans to fit me at all. I wear a size 1/2 or 3/4 in a jean with a 33-34 inch length needed. I tell you I have a closet of high water jeans after you dry them they go even shorter... So I wear dress pants all the time.
 
Well when I post my pictures (crossing my fingers this weekend) I hope to get your opinion as well as everyone else's as far as what I need to work on. I hear you have to do a competition to really get noticed.... Is that right?
I have also noticed as I'm getting older my body is looking better. My friend was telling me something about that as women age their testosterone levels increase making it easier to get that muscular lean look. Is that true? She used Madonna, and Sheryl Crow as examples... Funny I always thought it was supposed to be harder to lose weight and maintain your body because the metabolism starts slowing.
 
..thats muscle maturity...its no wonder that the current Mr O is 40.....drugs not withstanding as its a level playing field where thats concerned
 
I think it's more individual. I will be 29 in.. 30 days and i look and feel better than i did 10 yrs ago

treilin said:
Well when I post my pictures (crossing my fingers this weekend) I hope to get your opinion as well as everyone else's as far as what I need to work on. I hear you have to do a competition to really get noticed.... Is that right?
I have also noticed as I'm getting older my body is looking better. My friend was telling me something about that as women age their testosterone levels increase making it easier to get that muscular lean look. Is that true? She used Madonna, and Sheryl Crow as examples... Funny I always thought it was supposed to be harder to lose weight and maintain your body because the metabolism starts slowing.
 
CanadianCutie said:
I think it's more individual. I will be 29 in.. 30 days and i look and feel better than i did 10 yrs ago
Yeah I definitely feel better then when I was 16... I have way more energy and ambition. Funny everyone seems to be worried about getting older and I just say, "Bring it on." I guess the muscle maturity is finally coming in... I've been working at it for 9 years and I think just the past two years I have been starting to reap the benefits...
Funny about the black pants and red top....I'm sure you are smoking :) I can't wear red all that well... since I have red hair I think it looks funny. Though I'm an abnormality because I can tan...
 
CanadianCutie said:
I think it's more individual. I will be 29 in.. 30 days and i look and feel better than i did 10 yrs ago

*Ahem*

I did my first BB show when I turned 35. I was in better shape than ever before. Had some rebound due to some stuff, but now, I will be *40* in 7 months and I suspect I will look better than I did on contest day at age 35.

There is a degree of muscle maturity as you get older, but you also are dealing the results of reduced hGH production, estrogen, etc. You have to work hard. The hormone changes alone are hard to anticipate. For me, the biggest change I've seen has been in my skin -- no more acne! When you look at someone like Madonna, you have to remember that yes, she's over 40, but she's also a perfectionist and has been training her body intensely for several years and following a very strict diet. She's also starting to lose a certain degree of elasticity in her skin and as a result, as long as she doesn't start getting fat, she's going to have a more sinewy look. I also have several years of heavy training behind me to build on so I have one up on the younger crowd as well w/ the muscle maturity, but I'm still not as blessed w/ the metabolism as I could be w/ more work & discipline. (We'll prove that in the coming months....)

Now take a look at someone like Meg Ryan -- she's always been a cute little Hollywood girl. Aside from that tragic plastic surgery she's had done, she is actually starting to look a little "shallow" -- you can see the loss of suppleness in skin, etc.
 
Working out for me is still fairly new.. only been at it since mid september..

I wish i had worked out before so i would have something to compare my progress too


Sassy69 said:
*Ahem*

I did my first BB show when I turned 35. I was in better shape than ever before. Had some rebound due to some stuff, but now, I will be *39* in 7 months and I suspect I will look better than I did on contest day at age 35.

There is a degree of muscle maturity as you get older, but you also are dealing the results of reduced hGH production, estrogen, etc. You have to work hard. The hormone changes alone are hard to anticipate. For me, the biggest change I've seen has been in my skin -- no more acne! When you look at someone like Madonna, you have to remember that yes, she's over 40, but she's also a perfectionist and has been training her body intensely for several years. She's also starting to lose a certain degree of elasticity in her skin and as a result, as long as she doesn't start getting fat, she's going to have a more sinewy look. I also have several years of heavy training behind me to build on so I have one up on the younger crowd as well w/ the muscle maturity, but I'm still not as blessed w/ the metabolism as I could be w/ more work & discipline. (We'll prove that in the coming months....)
 
Sassy you're an inspiration to us all! Seems like people in your age group have finally got it right. I mean the generation before had dieting all wrong. There are a lot of fit people in their 20's but still a bunch of lazy people too. I just can't wait to be 40 and have the body of a 25 year old beat :)
 
treilin said:
Sassy you're an inspiration to us all! Seems like people in your age group have finally got it right. I mean the generation before had dieting all wrong. There are a lot of fit people in their 20's but still a bunch of lazy people too. I just can't wait to be 40 and have the body of a 25 year old beat :)

lol... Sassy is one of an extremely small handful of people in that age bracket who "got it right". In general, the majority of women 35+ are the ones who have it all wrong. Who makes up 95% of personal training clients? Middle-aged, overweight women.
 
Thx guys. Honestly I didn't really "get it" until I was 35. I actually did the "no carb" diet for 2 months before I started my competition training just to see what it would do. I did lose weight. I also was left w/ sort of flabby legs despite all my years of training. And you can see that reflected in my competition pix. That's a big that will be different this time around. My legs have 4 yrs of heavy training & eating behind them now. BTW I will also add that over the last 4 yrs I've learned more about healthy living on EF than I have from anywhere!

Maybe I should get my mom to join this board & see if I can get her to start eating more protein & doing more resistance training .... Hmmmmmm.


Nope. Then I couldnt' make some of the comments that I do in front of my mom. She'd send me to my room on at least a daily basis.....
 
Sassy69 said:
Thx guys. Honestly I didn't really "get it" until I was 35. I actually did the "no carb" diet for 2 months before I started my competition training just to see what it would do. I did lose weight. I also was left w/ sort of flabby legs despite all my years of training. And you can see that reflected in my competition pix. That's a big that will be different this time around. My legs have 4 yrs of heavy training & eating behind them now. BTW I will also add that over the last 4 yrs I've learned more about healthy living on EF than I have from anywhere!

Maybe I should get my mom to join this board & see if I can get her to start eating more protein & doing more resistance training .... Hmmmmmm.


Nope. Then I couldnt' make some of the comments that I do in front of my mom. She'd send me to my room on at least a daily basis.....

Funny... I have been working with my mom also. She has lost 35 pounds over 8 months... She has about 50 to go. We're working on it though. My sister-n-law is on another program I designed because she had plateaued... She has dropped one size so far in the past month. We're doing measurements and body fat calculations next month before the cruise. I like helping people out that want to really be helped and are willing to work at it!
 
Thanks Daisy girl!! =) i dont have the internet anymore, so its rare when i can get on to check updated questions! =) You ROCK!!! =)
 
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