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LEWIS HAS WOn

Interesting.

I've only ever been to one fight - Kostya Tszyu v Jesse James Leija at the Telstra Dome here in Melbourne. He successfully defended his three belts very easily :)
 
LEwis sucked. He was out of breath. At the end Klitchko almost went after Lewis but got stopped by lewi's bodyguard. NOw klitchko raised his arm towards crowd ande veryone started cheering.
 
Rematch! Klitchko will kick his ass. Lewis is too old.
 
Sounds similar to a fight when Holyfield fought someone and got beat hands down but somehow won the decision at the end. I can't recall who it was though.....
 
I'll tell you this though,Vitali speaks at least 3 languages..his native Ukranian dialect,he must speak german as his trainer was speaking to him in German..and English too...I'd bet Vitali would beat Lewis in a chess match
 
www.espn.com
Dumb fucking assholes, they made it sound as if Lewis kicked his ass. I hate stupid writers and reporters. FIRED!!!!!
 
Lewis punked out. Did you see the way he was trying to stroke his ego when Larry Merchant was interviewing him. He knew he just got his ass handed to him. He kept saying that he would have knocked him out if the fight wasn't stopped yea fucking right. Lewis didn't take him seriously just like Rahman but it's different this time. Klitschko actually has talent and I think he will beat lewis if and when there is a rematch. One of the best parts of the fight was when the crowd cheered for Vitali after the fight. They knew he should have won it
 
Lewis was a joke. Old, and out of shape. I don't see why they stopped the fight at that point. Did the cut get worse?


Very exciting fight though. I was on the edge of my seat for the whole math.
 
WizKid25 said:
Lewis didn't really win. Klitschko won the rounds, but lost due to his cut. Lewis lucked out.

Lewis most certainly won. That was a vicious gash over Vitali's eye. The doctor was correct to suggest a stopage as it would only have gotten worse as the fight wore on. To say he didn't win would be like saying so and so would have won if so and so wasn't knocked out in the 6th round. Lewis came in totally out of shape and looked like an ass by denying that Vitali was taking the fight to him, the boos were absolutely deserved. Coming into a fight out of shape is inexcusable for a champion.
 
Did anyone see Lewis's cockiness after? Gave the guy NO credit. Wouldn't even let the announcer finish his question. What a deusche. He certainly deserved to lose.
 
gymrat said:
Very exciting fight though. I was on the edge of my seat for the whole math. [/B]
I think that was a typo.but it came out kinda cool soundin'..the whole math..at first I thought i was behind on the latest lexicon..but it fits actually what with the points and percentage of blows landed
 
Damn check it out....
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Lewis got lucky, but he was out of shape. If there is a rematch, he'll come back prepared, and probably win like his last upset. Klitschko did put on a hell of a fight and will hopefully do it again.
 
Give Lewis, an all-time great, some credit guys. Kiltschko has been training his ass off, Lewis has been hanging out at Mcdonalds. And he still won. Gotta love him.
 
Lewis had been training to fight Tyson. It's not like they just told him that morning that he was fighting and he quick threw on his gloves.
 
Ish said:
Lewis had been training to fight Tyson. It's not like they just told him that morning that he was fighting and he quick threw on his gloves.

dude, I admit I wasnt really educated on that last post. I just think it's funny the all-time standby pulled it off once again.
 
Lewis was gonna win if the fight went on..It was just a matter of time and the doctor saved teh big Ukranian for any further punishment. Indeed, Lewis wasnt in his best shape but if the fight would have continued, there is no doubt that Lewis would have been the winner.

Th fight remembered me when he was knocked out last time due to lack of training and being too overweight but this time despite his lack of form he was still punishing the big Ukrainian..

It was a fair win.....

To those who hate LEWIS....

He is the man..
 
Stop bashing Lewis ..

He proved one more time that even when his is out of shape he could still be the man.

I am 100% that if the fight would have continued the Ukrainian boy would have went down or would have been covered in a red suit...


Next to the big money fight against Roy Jones..And my bets are on LEwis again all the way..
 
Anyone see Klitchko try to kick lewis when they both fell down? Did yall see after the fight when vitali was askin for a rematch and lewis said maybe, then vitali started hittinghim in the arm? Good stuff.

Yeah Klitchko really brought a fight to lewis. I was one of the doubters that he would. Seemed to robotic in past fights, and i thought his brother was better. Thier will be a rematch and lewis will come in being in way better shape and probably win again. That cut is gonna need some time to heal though, if he doesnt wait long enough it will just open up again in the rematch.
 
You lewis fans need to get off his cock. He was behind on every judges scorecard and was well on his way to losing his belts tonight. He hit vitali with his best shots and didn't STUMBLE him ONCE!! Lewis had NOTHING!! I repeat NOTHING for big vitali. That cut was hands down one of the nastiest cuts I have ever seen in all the matches I have watched though. It was a valid stoppage however lewis got a gift in the fact that it was stopped because he was getting his ASS KICKED!!! He looked like a fat lop of shit out of shape and stumbling around the ring like a washed up club fighter. Face it lewis fans TONIGHT LENNOX GREW OLD!!!! There is a fight in the end of every fighters career where he grows old and you can see it happen before your very eyes and tonight was the night that lennox grew old. Refuse to admit it if you want but he is nothing anymore. Unless vitali gets cut in a rematch he will kick lewis' ass just like he did tonight. Peace
 
SupraHero said:
You lewis fans need to get off his cock. He was behind on every judges scorecard and was well on his way to losing his belts tonight. He hit vitali with his best shots and didn't STUMBLE him ONCE!! Lewis had NOTHING!! I repeat NOTHING for big vitali. That cut was hands down one of the nastiest cuts I have ever seen in all the matches I have watched though. It was a valid stoppage however lewis got a gift in the fact that it was stopped because he was getting his ASS KICKED!!! He looked like a fat lop of shit out of shape and stumbling around the ring like a washed up club fighter. Face it lewis fans TONIGHT LENNOX GREW OLD!!!! There is a fight in the end of every fighters career where he grows old and you can see it happen before your very eyes and tonight was the night that lennox grew old. Refuse to admit it if you want but he is nothing anymore. Unless vitali gets cut in a rematch he will kick lewis' ass just like he did tonight. Peace

YUP
 
QUOTE]Originally posted by SupraHero
You lewis fans need to get off his cock. He was behind on every judges scorecard and was well on his way to losing his belts tonight. He hit vitali with his best shots and didn't STUMBLE him ONCE!! Lewis had NOTHING!! I repeat NOTHING for big vitali. That cut was hands down one of the nastiest cuts I have ever seen in all the matches I have watched though. It was a valid stoppage however lewis got a gift in the fact that it was stopped because he was getting his ASS KICKED!!! He looked like a fat lop of shit out of shape and stumbling around the ring like a washed up club fighter. Face it lewis fans TONIGHT LENNOX GREW OLD!!!! There is a fight in the end of every fighters career where he grows old and you can see it happen before your very eyes and tonight was the night that lennox grew old. Refuse to admit it if you want but he is nothing anymore. Unless vitali gets cut in a rematch he will kick lewis' ass just like he did tonight. Peace [/QUOTE]

Totally incorrect. Lewis was KO'd by Oliver McCall when he was out of shape and McCall was no A level fighter. He came back and totally frustrated McCall in the rematch making him walk out of the ring crying instead of taking a beating. Just a year ago, Lewis used Tyson for target practice and KO'd him in round 8 despite having a broken hand and not being able to throw the right. Lewis is just inconsistent. All you people bitching about the cut have to face the facts: Fights can be stopped for bad cuts. It isn't Lennox Lewis' fault that Klitschko is a tomato can, just like it isn't Klitschko's fault that a lazy Lewis wasn't in prime form. A slice on the nose isn't as impairing as a huge gash that pours blood into your eye. When Klitschko had Lewis rocked in the 2nd round, he should have finished him. When that gash opened he should have turned up the heat, knowing the fight could be stopped at any time. Klitschko came to fight and should be commended, but he didn't have the tools to beat an out of shape Lewis.
 
rsnoble said:
Give Lewis, an all-time great, some credit guys. Kiltschko has been training his ass off, Lewis has been hanging out at Mcdonalds. And he still won. Gotta love him.

What are you talking about????

Klitschko took this fight on TWO WEEKS NOTICE!!!

Two weeks ago, the fighter who was supposed to fight Lewis got hurt and Klitschko took the fight. Klitschko would have won the fight in the next 1-2 rounds.

THE FACTS:
Klitschko threw 343 punches, Lewis threw 181. Meaning Vitali threw and landed almost TWICE the punches Lewis did. Lewis got a lucky right that saved his ass ultimately, due to the blood.

A non-medicated Tyson would clean the ring with Lewis, especially if he fought like he did tonight.

Roy Jones stands no chance against Lewis, IMO. Too small and not powerful enough. Lewis would probably come into the fight as light as possible to offset Roy's speed. At best, Roy could run, throw a lot of punches, and hope for the decision.
 
BeefyBull said:


What are you talking about????

Klitschko took this fight on TWO WEEKS NOTICE!!!

Two weeks ago, the fighter who was supposed to fight Lewis got hurt and Klitschko took the fight. Klitschko would have won the fight in the next 1-2 rounds.

THE FACTS:
Klitschko threw 343 punches, Lewis threw 181. Meaning Vitali threw and landed almost TWICE the punches Lewis did. Lewis got a lucky right that saved his ass ultimately, due to the blood.

A non-medicated Tyson would clean the ring with Lewis, especially if he fought like he did tonight.

Some of this is true and some false. Klitschko was in shape as he was originally scheduled to fight on the undercard that night. There is no way to be certain that Klitschko was going to drop Lewis in the next 2 rounds as he had Lewis badly hurt in the 2nd and couldn't finish him, but what is certain is that Lewis opened a monster size gash above Klitschko's eye and every round after it would badly bleed. Klitschko worked harder, hence the higher punch output. Despite working harder he couldn't KO Lewis before the ref stopped the fight for the cut.

In Tyson-Lewis, Lewis fought with a broken hand and couldn't throw his right for 4 rounds. I would rather enter the ring on prozac than break my hand and not be able to throw my power punch. Put Tyson's medication into perspective. It's not like prozac is thorazine. Lewis absolutely destroyed Tyson. Tyson has a better chin than Lewis and that's about it. Lewis is stronger, has better reach, better boxing skills, and more power.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:


Tyson has a better chin than Lewis and that's about it. Lewis is stronger, has better reach, better boxing skills, and more power.

Anything you further say about boxing can now be discounted. Lewis doesn't have as much power in ANY of his puches as tyson does throwing at less than 100% strength. Lewis as a real good right hand THAT IS IT!! Why can't people understand that lewis has a jab and right THAT IS IT!! He had an advantage of being one of the first big heavyweights after bowe and ruddock lewis isn't shit face it. He is old and ready to be dethroned. The reign of lewis is done game set and match.
 
This whole thread just reinforces that boxing has been in sorry shape for years and years. In the '60s and '70s we had many great contenders and many world class bouts. In the '80s and '90s... boxing has not had a large enough pool of champions to even be considered an interesting sport on the Heavy weight level.
 
SupraHero said:


Anything you further say about boxing can now be discounted. Lewis doesn't have as much power in ANY of his puches as tyson does throwing at less than 100% strength. Lewis as a real good right hand THAT IS IT!! Why can't people understand that lewis has a jab and right THAT IS IT!! He had an advantage of being one of the first big heavyweights after bowe and ruddock lewis isn't shit face it. He is old and ready to be dethroned. The reign of lewis is done game set and match.

Actually you must then discount what most boxing telecasters and many posters of other boards specific to boxing will say. If you watched the post fight interview, Larry Merchant kept asking Klitschko how he avoided the right of Lewis "... how did you avoid the right of Lennox Lewis?" Is he asking that because nobody fears the right hand of Lewis?.

http://coxscorner.tripod.com/lewisrah.html
http://espn.go.com/boxing/news/2002/0608/1392625.html
http://www.boxingtimes.com/analyses/1997/971004lewis_golata.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/1662521.stm

Bodypunching for a guy the height of Lewis is difficult as he has to literally stoop to hit the target which would expose him to uppercuts. He has great skills, as an amatuer he defeated Riddick Bowe to win an Olympic gold medal, by KO I believe. When he unloads he has power in both hands. Don't think because Lewis tends to be a conservative counterpuncher he doesn't have knockout power.
 
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WHose fault was the the Ukrainian boy got cut? Is jut part of the game...

Anyone remember Gotti..?He cuts so easily and he lost a few matches due to bad cuts.

As I said before if the match had continued, the outcome would have been leaning towards Lewis as the poor Ukrainian couldnt even see wihtout moving his head when the doctor stopped the fight. It would have been tough for him to see those punches comin towards him and his task would have been suicidal.

The truth is that Lewis has been out of shape bu the still hold his own.

KLitichsko had never been in a dog fight before as Lewis was, so I have doubts that he could have gone the distance.
 
Upper-cruster said:
Lewis was gonna win if the fight went on..It was just a matter of time and the doctor saved teh big Ukranian for any further punishment. Indeed, Lewis wasnt in his best shape but if the fight would have continued, there is no doubt that Lewis would have been the winner.

Th fight remembered me when he was knocked out last time due to lack of training and being too overweight but this time despite his lack of form he was still punishing the big Ukrainian..

It was a fair win.....

To those who hate LEWIS....

He is the man..

No doubt he would have been the winner huh? Sorry, but that's an ignorant statement.
 
biteme said:


No doubt he would have been the winner huh? Sorry, but that's an ignorant statement.

Why is it ignorant?

The fight was correctly stopped and if it wouldnt have been stopped, Lewis would have won cause the Ukrainian boy was incapacitated due to a nasty cut ...Stop getting on Lewis case, haters...
 
Sundance said:


Why is it ignorant?

The fight was correctly stopped and if it wouldnt have been stopped, Lewis would have won cause the Ukrainian boy was incapacitated due to a nasty cut ...Stop getting on Lewis case, haters...

Why is it ignorant? Making a statement of fact b4 something occurs is always ignorant in a sport where anything can happen. The Ukranian was winning the fight, He's making the assumption that Lewis would have turned it on and won the fight and stating this as a fact. That is IGNORANT.
 
biteme said:


Why is it ignorant? Making a statement of fact b4 something occurs is always ignorant in a sport where anything can happen. The Ukranian was winning the fight, He's making the assumption that Lewis would have turned it on and won the fight and stating this as a fact. That is IGNORANT.

Give it up wise ass,

Reread the post!

IT was said that if the fight went on , Klitscko condition couldnt help him to be the winner.

If he wasnt cut , he might have prevailed..but only"IF"...
 
biteme said:


Why is it ignorant? Making a statement of fact b4 something occurs is always ignorant in a sport where anything can happen. The Ukranian was winning the fight, He's making the assumption that Lewis would have turned it on and won the fight and stating this as a fact. That is IGNORANT.

Read this statement form the doctor:


"But the second time I went into the corner to see the cut (after the sixth round), I asked him to look at me and when he looked up at me the upper eyelid (that was cut) had fallen in front of his eye and into his field of vision to a point that he had to move his head just to see me. I had to stop it at that point. If he had to do that (move his head) just to see me, he wasn't going to be able to defend himself in the ring."

It is clearly stated that he wasnt going to be able to defend himself if the fight went on....

So could yo call me stupid and others ignorant?
 
out_at_sea said:


Read this statement form the doctor:


"But the second time I went into the corner to see the cut (after the sixth round), I asked him to look at me and when he looked up at me the upper eyelid (that was cut) had fallen in front of his eye and into his field of vision to a point that he had to move his head just to see me. I had to stop it at that point. If he had to do that (move his head) just to see me, he wasn't going to be able to defend himself in the ring."

It is clearly stated that he wasnt going to be able to defend himself if the fight went on....

So could yo call me stupid and others ignorant?

Your first post made much more sense than the second one. He may have lost due to the cut interfering with his vision, Still not a certainty that would have occured.
 
out_at_sea said:


Read this statement form the doctor:


"But the second time I went into the corner to see the cut (after the sixth round), I asked him to look at me and when he looked up at me the upper eyelid (that was cut) had fallen in front of his eye and into his field of vision to a point that he had to move his head just to see me. I had to stop it at that point. If he had to do that (move his head) just to see me, he wasn't going to be able to defend himself in the ring."

It is clearly stated that he wasnt going to be able to defend himself if the fight went on....

So could yo call me stupid and others ignorant?

It is sad that some poster do not read thoroughly the entire post before they jump to wrong conclusion.

Biteme,

When I said that Lewis would have won , I just stated the obvious and if you corroborate my opinion with the doctor's statement you get the idea.

Poor Ukrainian was incapacited to continue the fight. I give him credit for being a true warrior but cuts are just part of the game...
 
I saw a Lewis who was out of shape. He was stumbling around, leaning on Klitscko every chance he got, not landing his punches (except for a few good eye shots lol).

I belive he was outmatched. And I think, if the fight would of went on, Lewis would be been knocked out.

when they called the fight, Klitscko sure didn't look like he was done. And as bad as his eye looked, It was still open, and he could see out of it.

I guess we all saw a different fight.

Either way, it was a great fight to watch.
 
Ish said:
Lewis got lucky, but he was out of shape. If there is a rematch, he'll come back prepared, and probably win like his last upset. Klitschko did put on a hell of a fight and will hopefully do it again.

Exactly!
Lewis underestimated Klit, but won't next time.
Lewis was in crappy shpae, Klit was in great shape.
If there is a rematch Lewis will stomp Klit.

Great fuckin fight though... exciting as hell. Tons of bombs and very little defense.
 
Change the Rules to Fight to The Death! All of this Boxing BS will go away real fast! No more Bitching and Moaning! And then we will really see who is the Baddest Mo Fo on earth! I'm tired of these Pussy Fixed Fights! End a fight for an eye! What a Fucking Joke!
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Klitschko was in shape as he was originally scheduled to fight on the undercard that night.

lol

BeefyBull OWNED by Creutzfeldt.



It was a 100% legit stoppage... that cut was huge. I was surprised they let it go as long as they did. Once that 2nd cut opened up below his eye it was time to end it.

Klit was great though.. many people thought it would be a 2 rounder.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
In Tyson-Lewis, Lewis fought with a broken hand and couldn't throw his right for 4 rounds. I would rather enter the ring on prozac than break my hand and not be able to throw my power punch. Put Tyson's medication into perspective. It's not like prozac is thorazine. Lewis absolutely destroyed Tyson. Tyson has a better chin than Lewis and that's about it. Lewis is stronger, has better reach, better boxing skills, and more power.

I ordered that fight. He had no broken hand and threw his right in every round. Ultimately, its what he knocked Mike down with.

What he said after the match was that he had hurt his hand because he hit Mike as hard as he could and Mike had such a good chin it sprained his hand. Mike probably has a better chin than anyone in the heavyweight division, he got knocked down 8 rounds into a 12 round fight. The media totally demonized him, said he was over, etc. after that fight, but had Mike won the title, they would have been all over his nuts.

Prozac, Lithium, and the other compound (cant remember) that Tyson was on could make someone more docile. Sometimes, they'd take him off them before a fight to make him more angry, however, Lewis' camp made it known Lewis wouldnt fight Tyson unless a doctor supervised him taking his medicine every day.

Stronger - Tyson, More Power - Tyson, Reach - Lewis, Better boxing skills - debateable (easily Tyson if you went back in time)
 
BeefyBull said:
The media totally demonized him, said he was over, etc. after that fight, but had Mike won the title, they would have been all over his nuts.

Uhh.. yeah.. thats the way it works.

Should they have been saying he was awsome?
 
I really think Tyson demonizes himself to the press, not the other way around. Stunts like starting fights at press conferences and telling female sports reporters that he only talks to women if they are going to fuck him aren't the fabrication of the media. He has come out on top of bad press too. Anyone remember Robin Givens? Instead of her allegation of marital abuse being the headline, the media portrayed Givens as a gold digging wench and sank her career. After every personal fiasco, Tyson's marketability increases.
 
Did Klitscko fight better than Lewis? Yes. Are cuts part of boxing? Yes. Would Lewis have won if the fight was allowed to continue? Yes. Who does the fight belong to? Lewis. It's part of boxing just like rules are part of any other game. They may seem unfair but they are RULES that must be lived by in the sport.

end of discussion.
 
Hard to say who would have won minus the cut,but Lewis was clearly WAY out of shape,he was sucking wind after the second round,and Vitaly was out hustling him.Knowing Lewis' background,he will not make the same mistake in the rematch,he will come in good shape.In good shape,he will be difficult for anyone to beat right now.The talent pool in the heavyweight division is ankle deep.
 
SeanHolmz said:
Did Klitscko fight better than Lewis? Yes. Are cuts part of boxing? Yes. Would Lewis have won if the fight was allowed to continue? Yes. Who does the fight belong to? Lewis. It's part of boxing just like rules are part of any other game. They may seem unfair but they are RULES that must be lived by in the sport.

end of discussion.

You just echoed my previous assesment...I have nothing else to add.

A rematch is most likely ...THis time Lewis better train his ass off and stop flaking off!
 
Bullit said:


Exactly!
Lewis underestimated Klit, but won't next time.
Lewis was in crappy shpae, Klit was in great shape.
If there is a rematch Lewis will stomp Klit.

Great fuckin fight though... exciting as hell. Tons of bombs and very little defense.

EXACLTY! Lewis did not seem to be badly hurt by Klit’s punches he was just tiring out!

Next time I bet Lewis will be in better shape and will know what to expect from Klit, and at the same time Klit will be expecting the tired out of shape Lewis. In short if Lewis gets his ass back into shape I am sure he will pound Klit into dust next time!
 
BTW, who won???

Lennox did...

Not all the wins are glamorus , so a win is a win!

Lets move on to the next game..maybe against Roy Jones or a rematch against the Ukranian dude!
 
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