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Let's talk exercise form. Apparently I have fallen behind.

biteme

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Squatting below parallel is actually the best and safest way to squat. I was still under the assumption that this was terrible for the knees.

What about touching the bar to your chest on the bench press? The trainers where I workout, teach to stop inches before touching the chest. I need to get a good book on exercise biomechanics.
 
Squats about bad for the knees

Deadlifts are bad for the back

Doing movements on one leg is better for functional strength

Wobble boards must be used with every standing exercise

More swiss ball useage the better

I think that just about covers it
 
biteme said:
Squatting below parallel is actually the best and safest way to squat. I was still under the assumption that this was terrible for the knees.

What about touching the bar to your chest on the bench press? The trainers where I workout, teach to stop inches before touching the chest. I need to get a good book on exercise biomechanics.

If I remember correctly, squatting to just below parallel is safest.

Benching without touching the chest is bullshit. I have experienced a couple of pec tears doing that.........not good. Go all of the way down.
 
InTraining said:
Squats about bad for the knees

Deadlifts are bad for the back

Doing movements on one leg is better for functional strength

Wobble boards must be used with every standing exercise

More swiss ball useage the better

I think that just about covers it

WTF? I'm getting off the chat board for a while and on to the training board.
 
The idea behind stopping a few inches above the chest on the bench is to keep the stress off the shoulders and on the pecs.

As far as squats go, my personal thought is, the lower the better. I'm not sure what Jesus would do though.
 
biteme said:
WTF? I'm getting off the chat board for a while and on to the training board.

heheh sorry I was just saying things I have heard the trainers in my gym say to their clients...
 
Been using the search engine. Seems that it's all open to debate. Some so called experts say squatting below parallel is bad, others believe the opposite. Nothing is set in stone. Much more research needs to be done. From what I've read, I believe that we should all lift according to our particular build. Squatting to the floor might be good for you, but bad for me.
 
onerepmaximum said:
The idea behind stopping a few inches above the chest on the bench is to keep the stress off the shoulders and on the pecs.

As far as squats go, my personal thought is, the lower the better. I'm not sure what Jesus would do though.

Yes. Let's consult Jesus on this one. He's the only one that will know for sure. Anyone have a direct line to him? Where's Curling?
 
I just completed a workout of squatting ass to calves. Doesn't work for me. My heels come off the floor and it hurts my hips and groin in a way that it shouldn't (will cause damage). I've had injuries in those areas, so sticking to no further than parallel is the best way for me.
 
InTraining said:
Squats about bad for the knees

Deadlifts are bad for the back

Doing movements on one leg is better for functional strength

Wobble boards must be used with every standing exercise

More swiss ball useage the better

I think that just about covers it
You have a camera hidden in my gym don't you! I have been seeing people using the swiss ball way to freakin much. I want to poke a whole in all of them so many peeps at my gym would be lost. :evil:
 
superqt4u2nv said:
You have a camera hidden in my gym don't you! I have been seeing people using the swiss ball way to freakin much. I want to poke a whole in all of them so many peeps at my gym would be lost. :evil:

hahah yes..I have seen some ridiculous things on the swiss ball lately

A new one that gets me laughing everytime is when they take an exercise and put all these "techniques" together...

Recently I saw Standing DB curls being done on one leg...on a wobble board...while isometrically holding a 3lb DB in a contracted position in the other hand......WTF am I missing here?! :chomp: :chomp:
 
biteme said:
I just completed a workout of squatting ass to calves. Doesn't work for me. My heels come off the floor and it hurts my hips and groin in a way that it shouldn't (will cause damage). I've had injuries in those areas, so sticking to no further than parallel is the best way for me.
have someone check your form to make sure you're not breaking at the knees first instead of at the hips. Doing the former puts the weight forward and is more likely to bring your heels up. Although, inflexibility in hip flexors and ankles can cause this also...
 
InTraining said:
...Wobble boards must be used with every standing exercise

More swiss ball useage the better...

:lmao:

Just the other day a trainer had their client on the wobble board, and proceeded to toss them the medicine ball from all different areas and distances...no one could get past/around this madness, they were taking up so much room. :redhot: :smash:

There should be a rule, if you're doing a dumb exercise you can take up a maximum of 2 cubic feet of gym floor. Any more than that is far too obnoxious and you should have a dumbell dropped on your pinky-toe.
 
supersizeme said:
someone have a link to what a wobble board looks like? i'd look it up myself but i thought i'd pull an AAP instead.

You know how you have that fuschia sparkly pogo-ball? It's pretty much exactly like that except no ball on the top.
 
oh gym personal trainers
were would we be without them

how would we know how to do a swing curl with too much weight?
or to bounce the bar off your chest
and then i wouldnt have to answer the questions
dont you know you can hurt yourself squatting/deadlifting?
how much do you bench?
why dont you care how much you can bench?
Why do you do so much for your hamstrings?
 
biteme said:
Been using the search engine. Seems that it's all open to debate. Some so called experts say squatting below parallel is bad, others believe the opposite. Nothing is set in stone. Much more research needs to be done. From what I've read, I believe that we should all lift according to our particular build. Squatting to the floor might be good for you, but bad for me.
I used to have the same problem. Try standing on a pair of 10s. Every since I did that, I was better able to squat lower.
 
Seashell said:
:lmao:

Just the other day a trainer had their client on the wobble board, and proceeded to toss them the medicine ball from all different areas and distances...no one could get past/around this madness, they were taking up so much room. :redhot: :smash:

There should be a rule, if you're doing a dumb exercise you can take up a maximum of 2 cubic feet of gym floor. Any more than that is far too obnoxious and you should have a dumbell dropped on your pinky-toe.
Worst thing I ever saw was a guy helping a large woman doing standing dumbbell shoulder presses on a swiss. I swear I thought either the thing was going to pop or she was going to fall over and flatten the guy.

Some part of me wants to go over and say something, but I figure that people have to learn for themselves. I'm sure people who saw be when I first worked out got a good laugh with my swing curls in the squat rack.
 
Regardless of whatever movements you may incorperate in your routine, I was tought to always keep your eye more focused on your form. Get a negative somewhat on every rep, and control the weight, not letting it bounce or fall out of control on the way down. This would safeguard joints, ligaments, and tendonitis, along with a slew of other nasty potentiol stuff possibly happening. I like to go to the floor on squats, I deadlift, and never had a problem doing them or any other exercise movement observing and using form doing them this way. There are degrees of control, so one varies from the next. You are not going to be able to control 125lb. each arm for presses the same way you would 80's,.....use good judgement, get the negatives, and control, and you should/will be fine.



Good Luck.

BT
 
biteme said:
I just completed a workout of squatting ass to calves. Doesn't work for me. My heels come off the floor and it hurts my hips and groin in a way that it shouldn't (will cause damage). I've had injuries in those areas, so sticking to no further than parallel is the best way for me.

Same for me. I got a pair of Adidas weightlifting shoes to fix that right up. I think the squat depth is secondary to going down in control. If you're slamming into the bottom position you're sure to get hurt at some point.
 
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