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^^ well first off your pct is 4 weeks. the EQ won't even be out of your system for 6 weeks.
this is a major problem
secondly running 2 SERM's together is just gonna make you feel like shit. any benefits you get are temporary.
you said this was your 3rd cycle. what were your pct's the first 2 times and where are your bloods? you need to learn from your mistakes and not repeat them
this is a major problem
secondly running 2 SERM's together is just gonna make you feel like shit. any benefits you get are temporary.
you said this was your 3rd cycle. what were your pct's the first 2 times and where are your bloods? you need to learn from your mistakes and not repeat them
Bruh i had actually same pct and dosage in my last cycle too ! and yes i felt there was something wrong but i wasnt sure , I decided to go for this pct after couple of weeks researching on different forums and ppl advice...
Burh by the way my pct that i wrote is 4 weeks too ,
This is what i meant :
Week1 -Week2 - Week3 -week 4 \
Novaldex:40 - 40 - 20 - 20
Clomid :100- 100 - 50- 50
These are ed dosage
Burh by the way my pct that i wrote is 4 weeks too ,
This is what i meant :
Week1 -Week2 - Week3 -week 4 \
Novaldex:40 - 40 - 20 - 20
Clomid :100- 100 - 50- 50
These are ed dosage
^^ yeah i know what you meant, you are totally not understanding what i'm saying though.. 4 week pct. you do realize EQ has a U ester and it will be in your system 6 weeks after your last pin!!! so what does a 4 week pct do for you exactly?
2 cycles and 2 pct's and you never ran bloods. how do you know where you are at without bloods? lets get your bloodwork done and then go from there.
you are 27 years old and have 2 cycles under your belt so there is no excuse for you to be this ill informed.. if you are gonna make it cycling long term you better learn from your trials and errors. right now all you are doing is throwing darts at a wall and hoping you hit something or fucking a hooker with no condom and hoping you don't get an STD. its stupid what you are doing
2 cycles and 2 pct's and you never ran bloods. how do you know where you are at without bloods? lets get your bloodwork done and then go from there.
you are 27 years old and have 2 cycles under your belt so there is no excuse for you to be this ill informed.. if you are gonna make it cycling long term you better learn from your trials and errors. right now all you are doing is throwing darts at a wall and hoping you hit something or fucking a hooker with no condom and hoping you don't get an STD. its stupid what you are doing
Bruh i m totally confused with what u are saying !
Bruh i never told i didnt do blood test ! and i dont knw what u mean by ill ! i m not ill man
Bruh do u mean to do blood test to make sure if i need pct or not !?
is that what u mean
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he meant you need to do bloodwork to check your test levels
You always need PCT....ALWAYS...it's called POST CYCLE THERAPY NOT POST SOMETIMES CYCLE THERAPY
You always need PCT....ALWAYS...it's called POST CYCLE THERAPY NOT POST SOMETIMES CYCLE THERAPY
Idobehigh
New member
For the sake of this thread and to help you get help from one of the most knowledgeable people he is saying go to your doctor or order blood tests online (privatemdlabs.com) go to the place get blood work done post your levels on this thread as a base before you cycle again... We need your blood work man he knows what he is talking about.
Next subject your pct is horrible throw that plan out the window, eq will stay in your system for 6 weeks AFTER your last pin so you need to extend your pct longer or what ever Steve suggests...
Next subject your pct is horrible throw that plan out the window, eq will stay in your system for 6 weeks AFTER your last pin so you need to extend your pct longer or what ever Steve suggests...
dude i dont knw where this blood test story where it comes from ! i did blood test before my cycle !
what is wrong with 2 pct .. ! this was what i got from every other forums they were recommending those dosage !and they were recommending doing both together
man i start feeling going totally insane ,, !!
bruh yes i had 2 cycles before and after 2 weeks of my cycle which was test e and dbol i started my post cycle which was novaldex and clomid !!!!!!i really dont understand what u guys talking about and what are you yelling at me for !
lol dude no one is yelling at you. this has got to be a joke.
but if you are serious what were your bloods? did u recover? keep in mind with serm's you get a temporary bounce then crash after pct. so a blood test done while the serm's are in your system is gonna be misleading
but if you are serious what were your bloods? did u recover? keep in mind with serm's you get a temporary bounce then crash after pct. so a blood test done while the serm's are in your system is gonna be misleading
Lol dude. Read the text that is printed on the screen, very carefully...
We recommend doing blood tests after pct is complete to see where your hormone levels (LH, FSH, total test etc) are at. If they are below the normal range or very low, this means you haven't properly recovered from your last cycle and these issues should be addressed before cycling steroids again so that you don't throw your hpta into a tail spin
We recommend doing blood tests after pct is complete to see where your hormone levels (LH, FSH, total test etc) are at. If they are below the normal range or very low, this means you haven't properly recovered from your last cycle and these issues should be addressed before cycling steroids again so that you don't throw your hpta into a tail spin
i do blood test all the but my question is about this cycle i have put here , so they told me pct is bad but they never told me why and what is better option for pct...
You'll likely to get the answers you seek, but try to yawn over the information already being told. Drop the nolvadex completely, its all shit. Clomid is alright, but your doses are way way overkill. 25-50 at tops maybe, but they will come back to you. Read up on what these drugs do and why the community is using these drugs.
man this is ppl in eroid keeps talking abt this is dossage they use , why everyone gives different opinion this is so confusing
semper03
New member
Man Getting dosage recs off of eroids is like getting medical advice the fucking park. They're all gonna diagnose you with something else.
northernknight
New member
Eroids is a great site when used currectly for the purpose it's supposed to be used. Other then that NEVER EVER get any cycling, or PCT advice from there bc. that's not why it's there for! You should be able to figure at least a few obvious reasons why this is the case rather easily yourself...
It's a really great thing that you posted this thread here, and you have been getting answers by some of the most knowlegtable members here, and those answers have even been explained to you.
So now you really have to just read this thread from beginnig to end a few times. Maybe read some other threads at this site, you will find many concerning same problems you are having. Just search & look around a bit, and if you still don't understand what people here are advicing you to do, maybe you just are not ready to do any cycles yeat, and just need more time to research these things.
You really have to take these things seariously, so you won't hurt yourself doing something with effects you are not sure about. By taking things wich cause effects in your body that you don't fully understand, and are not prepared for, you might cause permanent damage to yourself.
Take it easy, untill you are ready...
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Guys even right now i m discusing with them on eroid about this issue and they are all defending of those 2 pct and those dosage !
I really didn't only rely on eroid for my dosage they were several forums i rode and they were mostly saying this combo of novaldex and clomid is best !
So here is my experiment my last cycle was dbol and test e though this was my 3rd cycle everyone on eroids were telling me i should do only test e but i really didn't like it and i added dbol too and i added almost 20LB !
but after starting pct i lost 99 percent of my weight during pct i explained situation for guys on eroids and told them i feel there is something wrong with my pct and they were all telling me no and i should continue my PCT ..
i am sorry guys i m not troll but i am really confused now and i dont know who should i trust at this time ...
NegroPops
Banned
A high dose of Clomid with some Nolva is a very old school way of doing PCT. Will it work..? Yes, but there are much better ways to recover now. The people that are giving you the advice to run PCT like you are, are not wrong by any means.. they are just ignorant. The very first PCT I did was somewhat like what you have planned, with high dose of clomid, nolva, and armidex in the mix. This isn't true for everyone, but for me.. i felt like complete shit during PCT. I could feel myself growing a vagina. I was over emotional about everything, and working out was the last thing on my mind. I was content with sitting on the couch and eating ice cream. This is not exactly the ideal enviorment for keeping the gains you made on cycle.
Now to touch on Nolva. The only reason nolva should appear in anyones PCT is if they have gyno, or symptoms. It does nothing to help your body restore natural test production, which is the purpose of PCT. But as far as stopping any unwanted breast tissue development, it is spot on.. but Clomid with an AI will also do this aswell as help to restore your HPTA.
Now to touch on Clomid, it is totally unnecessary to run that high of a dose. It is proven that 25-50 mg per day is just as effective. You can go ahead and run the 100+ mg a day, but that will just leave you feeling like shit and being a sobbing bitch all day. Keep the dose moderate, get the same benefits without the sides. Clomid is a staple for PCT, especially for longer, more complex cycles.
Now for the rest of the new school PCT. A great addition to help you recover, aswell as stopping an estro rebound is an AI. The best option out there is Forma Stanzol.. which is a transdermal version on the banned foremstane. This will help block estrogen as-well as help boost test levels. The perfect addition to clomid. You can use other options like aromasin or armidex.. but you won't get the same benefits. Forma is the way to go. You can get that from mrsupps.com
Next you will want to add in some natural, non suppressive, test boosters. These will help elevate and restore your bodies natural test levels. These will also help to minimize any of the unwanted side effects, like loss of libido, that can occur from using Clomid. Now I do not mean to product push, but this websites sponors have some great options for this. I presonally use the Post Cycle/Unleashed combo from needtobuildmuscle.net, at 2 servings of each per day for 4 weeks. Test Infusion from mrsupps.com is also suppose to be a great choice, but I have not used that and cannot vouche for that. And one of the best natural test boosters on the market today is d-aspartic acid, you can pick that up at GNC or any nutrition store.. mrsupps and needtobuildmuscle also carry it.
Since you are running a longer more complex cycle, I would recomend you also add in MK-2866 (Osta) into your PCT. Osta is non-surpessive SARM that will greatly incease your ability to keep the gains you make. You can use this during PCT, and also as a bridge between cycles to further keep your gains. If you don't know much about SARMS.. i recommend doing some research because they are truly great.
So there you have a new, better way of doing PCT. A moderate dosed SERM, a pefect AI, natty-test boosters, and osta.
Now to touch on Nolva. The only reason nolva should appear in anyones PCT is if they have gyno, or symptoms. It does nothing to help your body restore natural test production, which is the purpose of PCT. But as far as stopping any unwanted breast tissue development, it is spot on.. but Clomid with an AI will also do this aswell as help to restore your HPTA.
Now to touch on Clomid, it is totally unnecessary to run that high of a dose. It is proven that 25-50 mg per day is just as effective. You can go ahead and run the 100+ mg a day, but that will just leave you feeling like shit and being a sobbing bitch all day. Keep the dose moderate, get the same benefits without the sides. Clomid is a staple for PCT, especially for longer, more complex cycles.
Now for the rest of the new school PCT. A great addition to help you recover, aswell as stopping an estro rebound is an AI. The best option out there is Forma Stanzol.. which is a transdermal version on the banned foremstane. This will help block estrogen as-well as help boost test levels. The perfect addition to clomid. You can use other options like aromasin or armidex.. but you won't get the same benefits. Forma is the way to go. You can get that from mrsupps.com
Next you will want to add in some natural, non suppressive, test boosters. These will help elevate and restore your bodies natural test levels. These will also help to minimize any of the unwanted side effects, like loss of libido, that can occur from using Clomid. Now I do not mean to product push, but this websites sponors have some great options for this. I presonally use the Post Cycle/Unleashed combo from needtobuildmuscle.net, at 2 servings of each per day for 4 weeks. Test Infusion from mrsupps.com is also suppose to be a great choice, but I have not used that and cannot vouche for that. And one of the best natural test boosters on the market today is d-aspartic acid, you can pick that up at GNC or any nutrition store.. mrsupps and needtobuildmuscle also carry it.
Since you are running a longer more complex cycle, I would recomend you also add in MK-2866 (Osta) into your PCT. Osta is non-surpessive SARM that will greatly incease your ability to keep the gains you make. You can use this during PCT, and also as a bridge between cycles to further keep your gains. If you don't know much about SARMS.. i recommend doing some research because they are truly great.
So there you have a new, better way of doing PCT. A moderate dosed SERM, a pefect AI, natty-test boosters, and osta.
2tickets
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Very informative, excellent.......that has answered all my questions also lol!!
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Agreed. Plus I would save the prop unless you're just using it because it's on hand and you want more bang. I have idea why people use multiple esters aside from using it toward the end to make pct timing easier.
Bro these are "sheeple" you are getting you advice from. Very few sites have the advanced info that elite offers. It's not perfect but like the bros said above never get advice from eroids and I could name countless more to avoid.
