Length vs. dosage

[Thoxi]

Eq: 14w-425mg or 12w-500mg?

Hi to you all, I have a quick question for you regarding what will be my second cycle...

I have purchased 6000mg of Eq for what was meant to be a 12 week 500mg ew cycle with Winstrol for the last 4 weeks and Nolva only 20mg ed for a PCT lasting one month...

However, I now see alot of you recommending a minimum of 14 weeks for EQ lean gains, versus the 12 weeks I had been recommended by my dealer...

So, the question is... 12 weeks with 500mg ew, or 14 weeks of 425mg ew? Buying more EQ is not really an option as it is. Just trying to get the most out of what I already have.

Some stats:
21 years old
Weightlifting since 16
Swimming since 14
Powerlifting since 19, albeit not too strong
170lbs with a fat % of about 10
6" tall

What I am looking to gain from this cycle is more lean muslce mass and general gains to both strength and my swimming without much side effects and little bloat/fat gain. I will be consuming 80-120g of protein from shakes alone ed, so put it at about 200-250grams a day.

 

[Thoxi]

Re: Eq: 14w-425mg or 12w-500mg?

Bah! Won't let me change the title into something more specific. Or, at least, it's not showing in the forumlist...

Edit: I see I failed to mention that my first cycle was 6 months ago and consisted of 40mg T-bol ed for 5 weeks. Gained some strength, not more than 3-5lbs of lean mass though.

 

[svtmassa]

I vote 14 week option, eq is fairly effective at 400mg ew I go for 600ew when i use eq

 

[Thoxi]

Alright, thanks bro'.

Anyone else? I'd like to get at least a few opinions on this before I start my cycle... Although I am leaing towards the 14 week cycle... It's only 75mg less every week and gives me those two extra weeks of active eq...

 

[amandhody]

Do you plan to add a little test with that say a 100 mg or a 250 gmg/week?

 

[Thoxi]

I do not plan to add any test to this, no. The gains to sides this would provide are more than enough for me as it's my first inject cycle... Only reason I see for taking some test would be for lowered libido, of which my fellow atheletes have experienced nothing...

I was also under the impression that EQ only with Some Winny at the end was a good lean mass and cutting cycle... I've seen it advertised alot on different forums and books.

Interested in hearing your two cc's on this though!

 

[hrpiii]

I don't think any of this matters if you don't get your diet corrected. If you can not gain lean mass at 21 with a good diet, not sure any AAS is going to provide any magic.

Just an observation bro.

 

[Thoxi]

Duly noted, hrpii. However, I do gain strength as it is, and my diet is very, very clean. I take in alot of protein from different sources, the only thing is that being so active in an endurance sport like swimming does not really combine too well with gaining mass.

Now, I already have purchased the goods, and though I respect your opinions, the viability of me doing a cycle at 21 is not really the issue here. I am simply looking to get the most out of the drugs I have already purchased.

Now, if anyone has any input as to if I should run the 12 week option with a higher dose, or the 14 week with 425mg, I would greatly appreciate it. Frankly I am leaning towards the 14 week cycle, but then again my knowledge of aas is limited.

And although my coach does allow us to use, he does not have the knowledge to answer my question for me.

SO: 6000mg. 14weeksx425mg ew or 12weeksx500mg ew?

Thanks

 

[solidspine]

14 weeks of 425mg ew?

EQ takes a long time to kick in so, it is probably better to go 14 weeks,

But 12 to 14 not a big deal, if you were talking 12 to 18 then yes it would be









Also I would do the winny the first 4 weeks, when the eq has not yet kicked in,

Gives you psychological advantage.

 

[Thoxi]

Hrm, yes there's the dilemma of running it in the front or the back..!

I figured that I'd bulk up through the 14 weeks, gain some mass and all that, then in the 3 weeks of waiting from the last injection of EQ to the PCT can start I'd run the winnys to get some definition and to "get the most" out of my time on the cycle...

I see the logic behind starting it in the front when I'm not getting much out of the EQ, but isn't there a chance the winny would do me more good in the back of the cycle, when there's still some eq in my system...? I mean, it'd be a 17 week cycle instead of a 14 week cycle, if you catch my drift..

Thanks for the input though bro'. Appreciate it.