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length of cycle??

snobben

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Im planing a bulk cycle in november.
The cycle looks like this.

Primoteston 500 mg/week
Deca 400 mg/week
Dianabol (Naposim) 35mg/day

I Have a couple of questions.
have used the serch function but could not find my answers there.

1. Should i run the cycle for 8, 10 or 12 weeks?
Is it worth it to do a 12 weeks cycle.
Some people say they see much less gains after week 8.

2. Is it much harder for your body to recover from a 12 week
cycle compared to a 8 weeks cycle whit the same dosage and gear?


have done 4 cycles before. 5"4, 165 pounds. 10%BF
 
Im currently running a 15 week cycle,Im in week 10 now and still progressing well. As for you other question the longer the cycle the longer it's going to take to get your body back into whack.
 
OK, steroids with longer esters such as deca can be run for up to 12 weeks and remain effective. Shorter acting oral steroids like dbol lose effectiveness after about 6 weeks. Testosterone is the exception. It can be run forever without losing effectiveness. This is because it is testosterone and not a steroid.

If you run the deca for 12 weeks then change the orals or short acting steroids every six weeks. Steroids like deca are often best used for longer periods of time - so 12 weeks is a good idea.

As for post cycle recovery - once you start a cycle, you are going to go through a post cycle catabolic phase. You will also require clomid therapy and time off. If you are going to do all this then you may as well do a cycle of decent length.

The cost/benefit ratio improves in favour of the benefits if you do a 12 week cycle instead of a 6 week cycle. The longer cycle will probably only add an extra 2 weeks to your recovery time, but an extra six weeks to your growth period. Just remember to change the steroids (except the longer lasting esters, i.e. deca) after 6 weeks!

Best of luck.
 
great info, thank you hans!!!
I think i will go for 12 weeks. But should i increse the dosage of test then? 500 mg/week for 6 weeks and then 750 mg/week from week 6-12?? What do you think?
 
snobben said:
great info, thank you hans!!!
I think i will go for 12 weeks. But should i increse the dosage of test then? 500 mg/week for 6 weeks and then 750 mg/week from week 6-12?? What do you think?

You don't need to increase the testosterone doses. Your body produces testosterone all its life and you don't attenuate to it. Steroids are different. Once you start to use them their effectiveness begins to decline until their effect becomes minimal 6-12 weeks after starting.

Instead of increasing doses, take the healthier and more effective option of changing the steroid combinations. With orals I frequently don't even run them for six weeks, sometimes opting to change to a new drug after only 3-4 weeks.

Run an injectable base steroid like deca or testosterone for the full twelve weeks and then use 2-4 different orals, one after the other during this period. Start with the strongest orals first and the weakest last.

Best of luck.
 
btw, if this is your first cycle then what you are proposing is a rather potent stack for a newbie. 500mg of test/week is MORE than enough, so don't do 750mg. I've been using anabolics for years and I haven't gone above 500mg of test yet.

Sometimes less is more. You are just making extra demands on your wallet and body and getting diminishing returns in exchange.

Just my 2c.
 
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