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Protobuilder
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It would grow you some legs if you could actually stick with it long enough to build up the poundages. And if you could actually eat enough to gain weight for a few months without freaking out & going back to counting almonds.
But look. 11,000+ posts and you still have to ask whether "Routine X" is "good for mass"?
But look. 11,000+ posts and you still have to ask whether "Routine X" is "good for mass"?
dshiznit00
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id toss some power cleans in there.
JKurz1 said:
depends on how fast or slow you're increasing the weights each week. I'd assume by now you're just doing 5 lb. increases for everything. If at all possible you can do this (if you're getting a stall), use micro plates to increase just a little for your next workout. I know it would suck but improvement is improvement. If you're still missing that rep, wait about another week and try that same weight again. If problems are still arising, then you'll have to reset.
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jackangel
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DBBT said:
whoa, you just gave him enough calories for his entire month.
as for the stalling, i haven't seriously followed a 5x5 (did it for squats for a while a long time ago), but i think i remember reading something like this: if you miss a rep or two in the last 1-2 sets, you might try again next week. if it's the same, you could consider going to a 5x3 and increasing by 5lbs each week on that until you stall again. when that happens, you go back down to the weight where you originally stalled on 5x5 and see if you can continue there. of course, this may be not accurate and probably depends on the variant you're using (i might be thinking of needsize's 5x5 here).
if you're coming up more than a rep or two short, then a reset to a lower 5x5 weight (as mentioned) is probably in order.
in any case, a quick look-it-up may be useful.
s8nlilhlpr
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http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7158585#post7158585
Need those roids to get over 170lbs eh?
Need those roids to get over 170lbs eh?
Protobuilder
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s8nlilhlpr said:
LMAO!
even those guys are like, "why the fuck can't you understand??"
Protobuilder
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Jkurz: "So, exactly how much cardio per day did you do? and what degree of incline is best while on tren?"
Other guy: "I already fucking answered this question twenty times in this thread!!! Gaaahhh!!!"
Jkurz: "So, are you saying cardio is necessary on a bulker? I've asked this question 392 times since joining in 2003 but have never got a clear answer. Also, what leg routine did you use for cuts with tren?"
Other guy: "I already fucking answered this question twenty times in this thread!!! Gaaahhh!!!"
Jkurz: "So, are you saying cardio is necessary on a bulker? I've asked this question 392 times since joining in 2003 but have never got a clear answer. Also, what leg routine did you use for cuts with tren?"
s8nlilhlpr
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Cynical Simian
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lol @ s8nlilhlpr pwning jkurz with his own posts.
My latest theory is that "he" is a artificial neural network that has to go through thousands of examples to get the connection weights right.jackangel said:
Protobuilder
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I think it's Spellwin. Laughing his ass off since May 2003.
Tweakle
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I don't know J, that looks like a lot of low reps and you're not supposed to be trying to get stronger. Remember that you don't need to get stronger to get bigger.
I have a question for you tho, .. let's say I inclined 365 for reps this weekend and had half a large pizza and about 1/2lb of meat when I got home from the gym. This approach obviously isn't going to increase my chest size so what should I do to modify my training approach? I feel the water on my abs and spent several hours rubbing YES on my bulging belly last night in an attempt to get my abs to show through my pooch.
I have a question for you tho, .. let's say I inclined 365 for reps this weekend and had half a large pizza and about 1/2lb of meat when I got home from the gym. This approach obviously isn't going to increase my chest size so what should I do to modify my training approach? I feel the water on my abs and spent several hours rubbing YES on my bulging belly last night in an attempt to get my abs to show through my pooch.
Protobuilder
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I'm thinking about incorporating this new upper body routine........
Pec Deck 6x20
Flat Flyes 3x15
Incline/Decline Flyes 4x13
Weighted Pushups 6x8 @ 60% 70 80 90 then at 102% for 1 rep
Well I got this out of the new Flex mag....figure I'd try a new routine every issue.....says not to do BP because you'll feel more burnout with this routine......
...thoughts?
Pec Deck 6x20
Flat Flyes 3x15
Incline/Decline Flyes 4x13
Weighted Pushups 6x8 @ 60% 70 80 90 then at 102% for 1 rep
Well I got this out of the new Flex mag....figure I'd try a new routine every issue.....says not to do BP because you'll feel more burnout with this routine......
...thoughts?
Protobuilder
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Looks good. Change it up by Wednesday though and start a new thread.
s8nlilhlpr
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No no no, WEIGHTED swimming is where its at!! Make sure you tie something heavy to youself, then pick a REAL deep lake.
Cynical Simian
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s8nlilhlpr said:
s8nlilhlpr is on fire in this thread.
Nathan
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Break up your quad and ham days. On quad day do:
4 sets of squats (2 heavy sets, 2 lighter ones so that you reach 8-12 reps no problem)
3 sets of machine hack squats or leg presses (10 reps or so each set)
3 sets of leg extensions (10 reps or so each set)
On ham day:
3 sets of good mornings (I don't go below about 9 reps on this one, and def focus on using your hams) - the movement can be tricky tro get, but remember you are almost swinging your hips back and forth.
3 sets of lying DB leg curls (put a DB between your feet and slowly raise and lower it)
3 sets of seated or standing machine ham curls
For calves, I usually do 6-7 sets in total each week (2 exercises - a standing and a seated) and stay in the rep range 12-20.
4 sets of squats (2 heavy sets, 2 lighter ones so that you reach 8-12 reps no problem)
3 sets of machine hack squats or leg presses (10 reps or so each set)
3 sets of leg extensions (10 reps or so each set)
On ham day:
3 sets of good mornings (I don't go below about 9 reps on this one, and def focus on using your hams) - the movement can be tricky tro get, but remember you are almost swinging your hips back and forth.
3 sets of lying DB leg curls (put a DB between your feet and slowly raise and lower it)
3 sets of seated or standing machine ham curls
For calves, I usually do 6-7 sets in total each week (2 exercises - a standing and a seated) and stay in the rep range 12-20.
SgtSlaughter
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that's what FOOD is for.JKurz1 said:
Protobuilder
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JKurz1 said:
Yes, he has given but an intriguing taste of his workout program. Perhaps you are on the verge of discovering an effective workout program!
jackangel
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Nathan said:
do you SLDL at all? i loves me some of that for hams. i do GMs as a primary on back day every 2-3 weeks, but of course, both movements will work both back and hams. i keep my reps to 6 and below, though. however, i care more about functional strength (mass will come eventually with the right diet).
i don't know why i'm blabbing all of this. i feel so close to you right now.
Tweakle
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J you were banned at IronAddicts before I even realized you'd registered, I'm sorry I missed the chance to ban you myself as that would have been a wonderful , life-affirming experience 
here's what you need to do for legs, do it monday through saturday
Squats, 100 sets of 100 reps
leg press, 100 sets of 100 reps
leg ext, curls, calf raises, abs, ditto.
hopefully by spending 10 hours a day in the gym you won't have time to post as much online.
here's what you need to do for legs, do it monday through saturday
Squats, 100 sets of 100 reps
leg press, 100 sets of 100 reps
leg ext, curls, calf raises, abs, ditto.
hopefully by spending 10 hours a day in the gym you won't have time to post as much online.
Protobuilder
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Tweakle said:
Is that more for gaining weight/mass or more size? i'm looking for a mass boost . . . something to shock some growth without overtraining . . .
JKurz1
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just got back from that session...took me 45 minutes but it was tough...Tweakle said:J you were banned at IronAddicts before I even realized you'd registered, I'm sorry I missed the chance to ban you myself as that would have been a wonderful , life-affirming experience
here's what you need to do for legs, do it monday through saturday
Squats, 100 sets of 100 reps
leg press, 100 sets of 100 reps
leg ext, curls, calf raises, abs, ditto.
hopefully by spending 10 hours a day in the gym you won't have time to post as much online.
Tweak...feeling is mutual....I'd love to ban your chubby ass too....
Nathan
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JKurz1 said:
I posted my current split on another thread:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=537559
Nathan
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jackangel said:
Well, bears are able to operate relatively efficiently for short periods of time on their hind legs, so were I a bear, I'd probably try to more or less mimic what I do now - and would therefore primarily do good mornings and regular deadlifts, though would work in SLDLs every so often for variety. They're still a great exercise. Actually, bears don't have opposable thumbs so gripping the bar coudl get tricky. As such, I'd probably do even more good mornings than I currently do and far less deads.
Lions have neither opposable thumbs nor the ability to maintain a bipedal posture for any significant period of time, so I'd have to get a little more creative with my training were I a lion. Maybe more 4-legged squats and claw-gripping motions to work the back. Maybe hook a big heavy log with my claws and then pull it backwards one arm at a time focussing on my latissmus dorsi muscles. Fuckin' A.
