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[ThepoolGuy]

my friend is 5ft 11in tall and around 212 lbs. He has access to anabolics but he doesnt want to inject anything if possible. What would be a good cycle for him to run. His diet is clean and he does cardio as well. I was thinking...


wk 1-4 30mg anavar ed
wk 1-8 100mg of winstrol ed
wk 1-8 500mg of primobolan ed

 

[Bruce]

three orals is a horrible idea. primobolan is not a good oral at all it has little effect if any. he should just run var at 40-60mg ed for 6-8 weeks or tbol 50-60mg ed for 4 weeks. those are exceptable oral cycles.

 

[andyjb]

three orals is a horrible idea. primobolan is not a good oral at all it has little effect if any. he should just run var at 40-60mg ed for 6-8 weeks or tbol 50-60mg ed for 4 weeks. those are exceptable oral cycles.

i would never advocate an oral only cycle but the above is acceptable.


ANDY

 

[ThepoolGuy]

He wants to use winstrol for sure. Some of his friends have had good success with it. What would you guys advise to stack with the winstrol.

 

[andyjb]

+var 50-60mg a week

+ inject 100mg testprop EOD

 

[ThepoolGuy]

or how bout this

anavar 60mg wk 1-4
winstrol 100mg 1-8

 

[andyjb]

if your determined not to inject id say go for that, but you will need pct for that

 

[njmuscleguy]

this might sound over-simplified, but has he tried dialing in his diet more and doing more cardio? that's all is needed to lose weight (not AAS)... maybe throw in some good thermogenics in there as well to speed up fat loss

 

[lowpro]

+var 50-60mg a week

+ inject 100mg testprop EOD

That's the ticket right there; actually, 80-100mg of var if he can afford it. Did wonders for me.

I used to be one of those who didn't want to inject. That "stage" will pass and most people end up wishing they had at least some prop or any type of test in their cycle.

wk 1-8 500mg of primobolan ed

Am I the only one who thinks that's too high? That's 3.5 grams of primo a week; even as an oral, that's too high - money wise.

 

[andyjb]

this might sound over-simplified, but has he tried dialing in his diet more and doing more cardio? that's all is needed to lose weight (not AAS)... maybe throw in some good thermogenics in there as well to speed up fat loss

meh we both know he doesnt want to know that!


...200posts at last

 

[Bruce]

winstrol must be run ed, 100mg ed is a lot for a beginner and even more if its added to anavar. if he wants to add winny then tell him to do it 50mg ed for 8 weeks. what is this guys bf%, if he is not lean none of these things will do a thing for him. if he is hell bent on stacking orals then do like 25mg of winny ed with 25mg of var ed, but i would not do that.

or how bout this

anavar 60mg wk 1-4
winstrol 100mg 1-8

 

[ThepoolGuy]

He has ran a Test Cycle before so hes not afraid of needles. Are theyre any good injectables he could use besides Test that would be good to stack with winstrol. I say besides Test because he put on alot of weight last time even with a clean diet and lots of cardio. Hes looking to gain not one lb.

 

[KOArtist]

I'm halfway through this...basically a combination of the 2 oral cycles bruce410 suggested:

Wk 1-4: 30mg tbol/30mg var
Wk 1-(8-10): 60 mg var only

Most definitely diggin it so far...sick strength gains, no sides, and u never go over 60mg per day of orals, and you don't have to jab your ass ed/eod. Shit, I get annoyed just having to jab my ass once a week, but then again I'm just an "athlete" not a "mass hungry bodybuilder", lol.

Btw, 100mg winstrol/day will most likely make his joints hurt from doing his cardio, plus about 1/3rd the dose of that is all that's needed to get good results from tbol or even var.

 

[ThepoolGuy]

What would be better to use by itself winstrol or anavar. I want to lean out a little, but build hard muscle. I was also wondering would i use 50mg ed or ew?

 

[Bruce]

anavar is the best choice, it will allow gains on restricted calories and curb your appetite. var gives more strength gains and lean mass than anything else, if you don't want to add weight var is for you. 50mg ed for 6-8 weeks bro

 

[black sheep]

LOL @ All Oral cycles... That is all I can say...

 

[KOArtist]

lol for sure at a bodybuilder doing it, but not an athlete