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got some interesting info
http://tobaccoharmreduction.org/
got some interesting info
http://tobaccoharmreduction.org/
layinback, cboogs, sparatcus...
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Spartacus
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I'm in the tobacco belt and in almost 15 years I've yet to embalm a male with mouth cancer
had a woman once though
had a woman once though
Spartacus said:
you mean with it listed as COD, or do you have to probe around in the mouths?
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Spartacus
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I clean the oral cavity and set the features which includes securing the teeth together to form a natural appearance and keep the mouth closedRottenWillow said:
I'd know if a guy had mouth cancer
Spartacus said:
Gotcha. I wonder if it's more common around here. I see a lot of workman type dudes in gas stations buying "dip".
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Spartacus
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and nicotine's a very beneficial drug
layinback
New member
Bino said:
i used smokeless tobacco to quit cigarettes.
i tried the gum and patch........no dice.
read a book written by an oncologist
university of alabama at birmingham. he
used smokeless tobacco to wean his patients
off cigarettes.
he had studied / treated thousands of cases of
mouth cancer. not one single case attributable
to smokeless tobacco.
he argues that the carcinogens in tobacco are
released during combustion and he asserts
smokeless tobacco is innocuous. he goes on to
explain how the " anti tobacco zealots" bunched
smokeless with cigarettes, much like the feds
handled the controlled substance act of 1970.
( placing LSD , marijuana and heroin in the same
class )
nicotine is a widely studied drugs and has
been found to be relatively safe but very
very addictive. so addictive in fact, that when
certain individuals imbibe, their nicotine site
receptors are permanently altered and they
never function at optimum without it! it is
next to impossible for these folks to quit.
bottom line:
nicotine and tobacco are harmless. it's the
delivery system that kills ppl. ( smoking )
needtogetarmy
CEO of Project Mayhem
I chewed for over a decade (off and on). I quit yet didn't want to.
I quit because I do not want to get mouth cancer. I really enjoyed it.
I admire the posts here, but I find it hard to believe chew does not cause mouth cancer. I do realize there is anti-tobacco propaganda out there but I have seen guys with the missing jaws and surgical scars from chewing. Perhaps they are the same unlucky fellows that have the same chance of getting mouth cancer as non-chewers but I cannot believe that.
I am objective though - I need to read some solid studies before I change my mind.
I'll check out the site posted. So far I have yet to see an empirical study cited on the site (I will keep looking).
I quit because I do not want to get mouth cancer. I really enjoyed it.
I admire the posts here, but I find it hard to believe chew does not cause mouth cancer. I do realize there is anti-tobacco propaganda out there but I have seen guys with the missing jaws and surgical scars from chewing. Perhaps they are the same unlucky fellows that have the same chance of getting mouth cancer as non-chewers but I cannot believe that.
I am objective though - I need to read some solid studies before I change my mind.
I'll check out the site posted. So far I have yet to see an empirical study cited on the site (I will keep looking).
needtogetarmy
CEO of Project Mayhem
Con:
The art of faking cancer
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/the-art-of-faking-cancer/2006/07/28/1153816364877.html
Bevins said he did not realise the woman with mouth cancer in the new ad was actually an actress and suggested some viewers might feel hoodwinked when they became aware of it.
Pro:
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635197353,00.html
Drawing a causal connection from individual incidents is not rigorous science so really those articles above mean nothing to me.
I am still looking for empirical evidence that people who chew tobacco have the same incidence of mouth cancer as those that do not chew tobacco.
The art of faking cancer
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/the-art-of-faking-cancer/2006/07/28/1153816364877.html
Bevins said he did not realise the woman with mouth cancer in the new ad was actually an actress and suggested some viewers might feel hoodwinked when they became aware of it.
Pro:
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635197353,00.html
Drawing a causal connection from individual incidents is not rigorous science so really those articles above mean nothing to me.
I am still looking for empirical evidence that people who chew tobacco have the same incidence of mouth cancer as those that do not chew tobacco.
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Spartacus
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massaging plant material in your mouth isn't near as foreign as inhaling smoke
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heatherrae
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it is? Tell me more. I never heard this and am curious.Spartacus said:
I grew up on a farm that grew, among other things, tobacco. As an aside, my grandfather did get cancer on his lip, but I'm not sure if it was caused by chewing tobacco. He did chew and sometimes dip. However, he also got skin cancer and cancer runs in my family, so it could have just been hereditary.
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Spartacus
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it's neuroprotective and decreases the incidences of alzheimer's,parkinson's and dementiaheatherrae said:
it's also a mental stimulant and appetite supressant
Powerbuilder333
Timeout? No, timeouts are for Plats
Just throwing this out there:
http://coachnick0.tripod.com/bbtoday/id68.html
http://coachnick0.tripod.com/bbtoday/id68.html
not saying it doesn't happen, though i think it's rare.Powerbuilder333 said:
rick bender was 25 when he got mouth cancer...how many millions of users have dipped well past the age of 25 without getting cancer?
biggest cause of mouth cancer is smoking and drinking hard liquor.
