“A woman will always sacrifice herself if you give her the opportunity. It is her favorite form of self-indulgence.”- W. Somerset Maugham
If so, indulge us with an example.
If so, indulge us with an example.
javaguru said:HR...nuff said...

heatherrae said:It's so true as to be axiomatic, in fact.
Think about it. Almost every woman who has children will buy her kids tons of clothes and such and not much of anything for herself. Also, they tend to give up their own identities the second they fall in love with a man. Everything becomes wrapped up around pleasing other people.
hanselthecaretaker said:“A woman will always sacrifice herself if you give her the opportunity. It is her favorite form of self-indulgence.”- W. Somerset Maugham
If so, indulge us with an example.![]()
Oh dang girl...right there you've got me wrapped up like a neat little package. BUT, I have changed so much and learned a lot about what really makes me happy!heatherrae said:It's so true as to be axiomatic, in fact.
Think about it. Almost every woman who has children will buy her kids tons of clothes and such and not much of anything for herself. Also, they tend to give up their own identities the second they fall in love with a man. Everything becomes wrapped up around pleasing other people.

nefertiti said:Yeah, welcome to the last ten years of my life....
Awesome girlie! I bought 3 DVD's for myself last week -- a pilates, a latin dance and a ballroom dancing one with Edyta from dancing with the stars. That was my step to getting back to being "me." Dang, I have a dance background and found the dancing with the stars video VERY COMPLEX. The latin dance had lots of complicated moves, too, but nothing like the jive and samba moves Edyta was throwing down...lol. Anyway, I got really into it and exercised over 2 hours last night just testing out my new videos...lol.curvymommy said:Oh dang girl...right there you've got me wrapped up like a neat little package. BUT, I have changed so much and learned a lot about what really makes me happy!
It does not make me a happier mom and wife to look the part of a self-sacrificing woman. I've triend it and it sucked. I get so sick of those moms who do this! Looking like crap, therefor feeling like it too, for the sake of the family is not an effective way to cope! It's really a problem out there with moms i think.
So, to prove it I'm gonna go today and get a $50 haircut! LOL! I'll post pics later!![]()
That is so cool! I get sweaty dancing with my 4 and 5 year old almost every day. I do NOT have a dance background though. DH and I want to take lessons though. We are so inspired by Dancing with the Stars. Great fun! Also, a really great way to get back to YOU.heatherrae said:Awesome girlie! I bought 3 DVD's for myself last week -- a pilates, a latin dance and a ballroom dancing one with Edyta from dancing with the stars. That was my step to getting back to being "me." Dang, I have a dance background and found the dancing with the stars video VERY COMPLEX. The latin dance had lots of complicated moves, too, but nothing like the jive and samba moves Edyta was throwing down...lol. Anyway, I got really into it and exercised over 2 hours last night just testing out my new videos...lol.
heatherrae said:It's so true as to be axiomatic, in fact.
Also, they tend to give up their own identities the second they fall in love with a man. Everything becomes wrapped up around pleasing other people.
That is so rude! Sheesh.calveless wonder said:girls will do crazy ass shit for a man they're in love with.
if the guy has the girl tripping.....they'll go to the ends of the earth for that person.
until the guy starts being nice![]()
yes, personal experience
curvymommy said:That is so rude! Sheesh.
Dancing with yourself or are you going to make Devin dance with you?heatherrae said:Awesome girlie! I bought 3 DVD's for myself last week -- a pilates, a latin dance and a ballroom dancing one with Edyta from dancing with the stars. That was my step to getting back to being "me." Dang, I have a dance background and found the dancing with the stars video VERY COMPLEX. The latin dance had lots of complicated moves, too, but nothing like the jive and samba moves Edyta was throwing down...lol. Anyway, I got really into it and exercised over 2 hours last night just testing out my new videos...lol.
calveless wonder said:girls will do crazy ass shit for a man they're in love with.
if the guy has the girl tripping.....they'll go to the ends of the earth for that person.
vixensghost said:The key to this entire statement is your "girl" comment. Empty headed girls are a dime a dozen it seems. If anyone has to put on some fake ass pony show to have someone love 'em, they need to stay single.
I think the father figure in these chicks lives must be lacking too.
Funny, most men can't deal with a strong woman either. She's called a bitch if she does NOT need a man in her life to "take care" of her. Go figure.
calveless wonder said:duh...every girl thats fucked up has daddy issues
LOL, I didn't see that part before my first response.MightyMouse69 said:where the fuck is my coffee!!!

MightyMouse69 said:I want to learn to dance like "Dancing with the stars" we should start a club.
vixensghost said:So sad too.
I hope you men are taking notes here IF you ever have a lil girl.![]()
RottenWillow said:Not true of American broads in 2008.
javaguru said:Dancing with yourself or are you going to make Devin dance with you?![]()
calveless wonder said:i was too stupid to realize this until recently.
could have saved myself alot of grief
would that be wrong?javaguru said:Dancing with yourself or are you going to make Devin dance with you?![]()


heatherrae said:would that be wrong?
I do dance around with him. He likes when I dance. He laughs at me.![]()
curvymommy said:LOL, I didn't see that part before my first response.![]()
Norman Bates.....heatherrae said:would that be wrong?
I do dance around with him. He likes when I dance. He laughs at me.![]()

MightyMouse69 said:thanks for the coffee! my feet are sore, can you take care of that?
vixensghost said:CM is a nice lady. I would have told you," Unless your legs are broken, get your own damn coffee".![]()
MightyMouse69 said:and I would of said, sorry my tongue doesn't work today![]()
vixensghost said:lol
And I would have said, " Better recall those words when you want some "cream" another day for that coffee...."
vixensghost said:CM is a nice lady. I would have told you," Unless your legs are broken, get your own damn coffee".![]()
Mavafanculo said:lol OT, sorta, but that reminds me of a meeting with a client senior VP at a Fortune 500 - as we enter the conference room he says "would anyone like some coffee?" and the freshly minted Ivy League MBA noob on my team says "I'll take mine black thanks" ...... everybody stops breathing and all eyes turn to him .... he says "oh, I guess i should get it myself right" oolloollo
vixensghost said:Oh man! I would have loved to have seen the look on the Sr. VP's face.
But see? Service is a two way streetvixensghost said:CM is a nice lady. I would have told you," Unless your legs are broken, get your own damn coffee".![]()
I walked into a conference room to take a deposition of a defendant who I had subpoenaed to appear at out offices for deposition. I walked into the room, and the dude's attorney must have assumed I was the secretary and asked for coffee!!! I brought him and his client coffee and then said, "Now that you two are all comfy, are you ready for me to depose you?"Mavafanculo said:lol OT, sorta, but that reminds me of a meeting with a client senior VP at a Fortune 500 - as we enter the conference room he says "would anyone like some coffee?" and the freshly minted Ivy League MBA noob on my team says "I'll take mine black thanks" ...... everybody stops breathing and all eyes turn to him .... he says "oh, I guess i should get it myself right" oolloollo
curvymommy said:But see? Service is a two way street![]()
curvymommy said:But see? Service is a two way street![]()
Sorry, that's an outdated church word I suppose.vixensghost said:Can we call it something other than service? I detest the thought of either one of us "having" to service each other.![]()
Oh...I get it (slaps forhead) I think I know what kind of service you mean. Sorry,vixensghost said:Can we call it something other than service? I detest the thought of either one of us "having" to service each other.![]()

curvymommy said:It goes in the same catagory with submissivness and that is icky to most women too.
vixensghost said:Yes! I was thinking this!![]()
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lol....icky submission.Grumpy Old Man said:I agree to not making any more service calls! That is just icky!
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Expect a PM from Pick3 in 3...2...MightyMouse69 said:girls are icky...
Mavafanculo said:lol OT, sorta, but that reminds me of a meeting with a client senior VP at a Fortune 500 - as we enter the conference room he says "would anyone like some coffee?" and the freshly minted Ivy League MBA noob on my team says "I'll take mine black thanks" ...... everybody stops breathing and all eyes turn to him .... he says "oh, I guess i should get it myself right" oolloollo
This is my favorite Billy Idol toon...dirty~d~ said:BILLY IDOL ROCKS!!! That's one of my favorite tunes.![]()
heatherrae said:I walked into a conference room to take a deposition of a defendant who I had subpoenaed to appear at out offices for deposition. I walked into the room, and the dude's attorney must have assumed I was the secretary and asked for coffee!!! I brought him and his client coffee and then said, "Now that you two are all comfy, are you ready for me to depose you?"
Same deer in headlights look you're describing!
javaguru said:This is my favorite Billy Idol toon...
hanselthecaretaker said:That one is good. I also like Rock the Cradle of Love. I still remember the chic in the video.
hanselthecaretaker said:“A woman will always sacrifice herself if you give her the opportunity. It is her favorite form of self-indulgence.”- W. Somerset Maugham
If so, indulge us with an example.![]()
BIKINIMOM said:I didn't read the rest of the thread but yes, this was me back in my twenties and early 30's.
I got over that RIGHT QUICK.
Now tell me what YOU CAN DO FOR ME.
This new approach is working out much better for me.![]()
dirty~d~ said:Dang, I like the sound of that.I'm ready to join that club.
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