Kung Fu...Preying Mantis Style

[Ruca]

lol @ the ongoing thought that because someone trains mma that they can't combine it with all the "dirty" stuff. "oh you train bjj...mt...boxing...wrestling....wow i could kick your ass in a street fight because you don't know how to eye gouge..head butt...nut kick/hit...etc." comical mentality

 

[Ceros]

I don't think I can right now, even if I wanted to...I'm too busy with school, band, working out, work, and the shcool play.

edit - But, thanks for the help and info on it guys...you're all awesome!

 

[Kane Fan]

Why is it that MMA people always knock traditional martial arts? They're perfectly good for fighting. They're not good for MMA. MMA rules take out a lot of perfectly good techniques for safety reasons. A buddy of mine trains in MMA, he's been doing it for 5 years. We sparred once, and he took my ass to the ground. While down there I just jammed my thumb into this nice part of his neck and knocked him out. Hardest part was getting him off of me.

Nothing wrong with a traditional style when it comes to fighting.

Also, please note that this doesn't include anything like olympic TKD, or anything similar that teaches point sparring. Then you will get hurt in a real fight.

to the point in the thread where this responce was made, no negative comments had really been made about the style only a true assessment

it's really like this, if the sparring is competitive and real strikes are landing (not with intent to injure the other guy but he's gotta know he's getting hit not tapped) then the style is useless for fighting

the style simply wasn't knocked at this point in the thread, you can't go around assuming that if someone into MMA dosn't exlaim "yes please take this style it's the best out there" then they are 'knocking' a traditional martial art

 

[Kane Fan]

ANd I find it funny how you only think that a Traditional trainee is ONLY capable of Kicking someone in the "balls" .

Get over your Ego , my man . Ive trained with and Fought ppl from every style I can think of , and guess what ? Boxers dont , on average , punch any harder or faster than Mantis Practitioners . COMPETITIVE boxers just tend to be in better shape , and use their Attributes to win fights . Nothing about he science of the Fighting Method in their Victories at all .

Teacher > Style

PERIOD

And no , the Tactics trained for in an MMA Match are NOT the Ideal way to fight when you have a Child or Spouse in Tow , OR when youre in the real world . Guess what else ? Not everyone has the TIME to get their bodies to the Level where they can go about Suplexing people all day . There are LOADS of things in Traditional systems that cut through the attribute use that is rampant in MMA circles .

ASIDE from that there is PLENTY that you can use from Traditional Training . Harden your body , take off the Wraps , Punch WOOD , STONE , and STEEL , not Bags - we can play "Whos The Bigger Pussy" ALL day , and in the End Traditional Chinese Taining is WAY touger than ANYTHING Sportfighters do . How much of it is applied these days ? Depends on whos school you visit . But any time you want to Visit mine Ill be MORE than happy to have you try out the Wooden Dummy , Iron Skills Training , Weaponswork , Breaking , or the like .

dude that boxing comment is total bs
not about the hitting harder aspect but the not using science in thier fighting styles
(unless you mean something different then I mean) of course there are boxers out there who just go out and swing with thier eyes closed (I'm one of them actually) but there is a lot of thought that goes into a GOOD fightplan and countermovments

can you link me to something about Iron Skills Training, I don't want to clutter up the thread but would read about it

also I agree with the pussy comment being stupid, no offence to IronMan or anything, but I'd rather be the pussy who won the fight then the tough guy recovering in a hospital

 

[Kane Fan]

Boxing has rules.
M.M.A. has rules.
Kick Boxing has rules.
Wrestling has rules.
In essence any regulated fighting has some sort of rules.
Street fighting doesn't have rules. Anything goes. That includes ripping a person's throat out, gouging his eyes, breaking bones, ripping ears off. There are so many differant styles of fighting and differanct techniques applied under differant circumstances. One thing I could say is that every person and fighter are differant with respect to their training, skills, abilities and background. Another thing is being able to utilize these skills under differant circumstances. Fighters will act differantly under differant circumstances. Real Life versus. Controlled setting i.e. syndicated fights are totally differant. You don't know how each fighter will respond to a real threat. Have you ever heard of "flight or fight"? Adrenaline kicks in and people who have demonstrated superman skills once and kicked major ass, may lose under less trying situations. There is no finite answers to these styles of fighting. There are too many factore to consider when comparing fighting styles and techniques.

rules help you devlop skills/ability
it is difficult to train to rip someones ear off w/out actually doing so
I agree that a fight is different from a match or competition, but I don't agree with the implication (that you may not have ment to make) that training in a style with rules is inferior

 

[Demonix]

Back in the day the original UFC and Vale Tudo competitions had NO rules! And guess what, all the great TMA masters of the world still got their asses kicked.

Sorry if your friend got knocked out by you jamming your thumb in his neck he is a pussy... Plus were you actually fighting or sparring? If it was some friendly sparring I would say that was a pussy ass move doing that.

 

[whitedragon]

Back in the day the original UFC and Vale Tudo competitions had NO rules! And guess what, all the great TMA masters of the world still got their asses kicked.

Sorry if your friend got knocked out by you jamming your thumb in his neck he is a pussy... Plus were you actually fighting or sparring? If it was some friendly sparring I would say that was a pussy ass move doing that.

We were sparring, but our sparring is a little different than most. Only rule was not to severely hurt each other. As long as no one has to go to the hospital that's fine, although that has happened before to even myself included. In hindsight it's funny thinking about the ER doctors/nurses expressions.

 

[Ceros]

I ight do all this sometime...but for now I have a broken wrist and a cast until Jan 17th. Thanks for the help by the way gents.

 

[pigcavalier]

Whether you are interested in learning a martial art to defend yourself or just to promote great strength, flexibility and health - Eight Step Preying Mantis Kung Fu will work for you. No previous experience is required to learn this system. Our schools start from the ground up, first focusing on the foundation techniques that will allow you to properly learn and excel in kung fu. If you already have martial arts experience, you will find an enormous wealth of knowledge and techniques within.

The advanced techniques mimic the preying mantis' ability to draw in its opponent and strike with devastating power. Add to that efficient and deceptive footwork, joint locks, throwing techniques, and internal energy work and you have a complete system of martial arts.

The Eight Step Preying Mantis System has been passed down from generation to generation - master to disciple, for over 350 years. Consisting of the famous fighting techniques as well as the healing arts. It is one of the last pure and authentic Chinese martial arts existing today.


But I always train tai chi for keeping healthy.

 

[Djimbe]

dude that boxing comment is total bs

how so ?

not about the hitting harder aspect but the not using science in thier fighting styles
(unless you mean something different then I mean) of course there are boxers out there who just go out and swing with thier eyes closed (I'm one of them actually) but there is a lot of thought that goes into a GOOD fightplan and countermovments

youre missing my core point . Boxing is not about fighting . Boxing training is about the best way to beat an opponent with pillows on his hands that wont hit you anywhere but above the waist . While those things can be APPLIED to a FIGHT , its not really training for one . Therefore the science used in Boxing needs to be modified to use in a non-Boxing environment . Its the best for its specific ruleset , wich a fight is NOT . You can even see that Boxing methodologies changed DRASTICALLY with the advent of gloves being thrown into the mix . I think before that time they were much more "realistic" (whatever that means this week) .

can you link me to something about Iron Skills Training, I don't want to clutter up the thread but would read about it

Ill see what I can Fish up , and Ill make it its own Topic , if nothing else with my own Methods and Techniques .

also I agree with the pussy comment being stupid, no offence to IronMan or anything, but I'd rather be the pussy who won the fight then the tough guy recovering in a hospital

agreed .