keto diet and steroids

[lorenzo79]

i wonder if anyone tryed a keto diet or body opuse with steroids ,let say deca ,winstrol ...it dosen't mather.I'm wondering what happens on a cycle when the diet is only from proteins and high amount of fat.Give a line if somene tryed and tell me what happend with the colesterol levels?thank u!

 

[natty4life]

i wonder if anyone tryed a keto diet or body opuse with steroids ,let say deca ,winstrol ...it dosen't mather.I'm wondering what happens on a cycle when the diet is only from proteins and high amount of fat.Give a line if somene tryed and tell me what happend with the colesterol levels?thank u!

You need to read a book on CKD diets and then come back and ask your question again.

See, CKD diets aren't "only" Proteins and Fat - they also include MASSIVE amounts of carbs at certain times....................

Grab The Ultimate Diet 2 - it's an updated version of BodyOpus

 

[Prizz]

You need to read a book on CKD diets and then come back and ask your question again.

See, CKD diets aren't "only" Proteins and Fat - they also include MASSIVE amounts of carbs at certain times....................

Grab The Ultimate Diet 2 - it's an updated version of BodyOpus

So True..... Actually, my diet is pretty much a CKD, except postworkout..... I just have a hard time not replenishing glycogen after lifting weights...... This will keep you strong, fuel your next workout, and promote muscle growth even if on a calorie deficient diet..... Ok, so it only turns your body anabolic for a few hours, but it's a few hours more then if you didn't consume carbs..... If you don't consume carbs after lifting weights, I don't see BF being turned into Glycogen, and fueling your muscles for your next workout..... That's just my take anyway....

rizz

 

[natty4life]

So True..... Actually, my diet is pretty much a CKD, except postworkout..... I just have a hard time not replenishing glycogen after lifting weights...... This will keep you strong, fuel your next workout, and promote muscle growth even if on a calorie deficient diet..... Ok, so it only turns your body anabolic for a few hours, but it's a few hours more then if you didn't consume carbs..... If you don't consume carbs after lifting weights, I don't see BF being turned into Glycogen, and fueling your muscles for your next workout..... That's just my take anyway....

rizz

Good stuff bro

 

[lorenzo79]

i had read aloat obout keto from body opuse to Ellise diet and i dont agree with some parts of the ultimate diet ,but my quetion was if the amount of fat that u indigest in the week time plus the amount af steroids that u take have some negative effect on cholesterol levels, and second if somone tryed keto maybe share with as from his knolege.Personaly ,my diet is close to Rizz, i;m using some carbo after my workout.And rizz, by the way, in the state of keto state u ar using ketons and don't need carb.eather way,thank u very much guys becouse all the information that u gave me is important at some level.

 

[Mr.X]

i wonder if anyone tryed a keto diet or body opuse with steroids ,let say deca ,winstrol ...it dosen't mather.I'm wondering what happens on a cycle when the diet is only from proteins and high amount of fat.Give a line if somene tryed and tell me what happend with the colesterol levels?thank u!

In general, on a BodyOpus, you should be able to gain .5lb. of muscle per week and shed around 1-2lbs. of fat per week. On a 12 week cycle that can be 6-7lbs. of lean muscle and 12-25lbs. of fatloss.

 

[swordfish151]

In general, on a BodyOpus, you should be able to gain .5lb. of muscle per week and shed around 1-2lbs. of fat per week. On a 12 week cycle that can be 6-7lbs. of lean muscle and 12-25lbs. of fatloss.

What do you think of the UD2? same outcome as the bodyopus?

 

[Mr.X]

What do you think of the UD2? same outcome as the bodyopus?

I stopped reading material by Lyle...a lot of his information was copied from Dan Duchaine

 

[swordfish151]

I stopped reading material by Lyle...a lot of his information was copied from Dan Duchaine

Yeah seemed that way to me also...but the program seems pretty interesting...do you have a link to bodyopus?

 

[Mr.X]

Yeah seemed that way to me also...but the program seems pretty interesting...do you have a link to bodyopus?

just google it and buy Dan Duchaine's book...IMO, worth every penny.

 

[gymratforlife]

I am on a cycle right now running bodyopus diet,5 days no carbs and then carb up on the weekend,I just went an extra 4 days with no carbs before my carb up this weekend to see what happens.I think I am definetly getting bigger and losing fat.

 

[swordfish151]

I am on a cycle right now running bodyopus diet,5 days no carbs and then carb up on the weekend,I just went an extra 4 days with no carbs before my carb up this weekend to see what happens.I think I am definetly getting bigger and losing fat.

Really...what you on brotha?

 

[Prizz]

i had read aloat obout keto from body opuse to Ellise diet and i dont agree with some parts of the ultimate diet ,but my quetion was if the amount of fat that u indigest in the week time plus the amount af steroids that u take have some negative effect on cholesterol levels, and second if somone tryed keto maybe share with as from his knolege.Personaly ,my diet is close to Rizz, i;m using some carbo after my workout.And rizz, by the way, in the state of keto state u ar using ketons and don't need carb.eather way,thank u very much guys becouse all the information that u gave me is important at some level.

Well, eating alot of fat can definetly affect your lipid profiles..... However, I remember reading (and I think it was in Bodyopus) that if youre in Ketosis, Lipid profiles are pushed in a positive direction regardless of Saturated Fat intake..... Maybe someone else knows more about that.... I also remember Duchaine talking about how Sugary Carbs affect your Lipid profiles almost as dramaticly as Saturated Fat intake..... I gotta say, with my diet, I eat TONS of Saturated fats.... I've never had a problem with Cholesterol, and High Cholesterol runs in my family too, so I got genetics working against me too..... Bodyopus is a GREAT book, even if you don't follow the diet plan.... Duchaine is a brilliant mind....

rizz

 

[gymratforlife]

Really...what you on brotha?

Sustanon,prop and deca right going to switch the sust for enanthate once I run out of these 50ccs.might add dbol and anadrol here and there along the way,planing to stay on for a year possibly.I want to get to 200 with bellow 10% bodyfat this year.

 

[Christianlifter]

Interesting...I starting a CKD this week myself..so is the consensus that using AS during the CKD is beneficial?
Or could it be harmful at all?
Couldnt find information about it in Lyle's book

Thanks Bros

 

[pitbullrocco]

your gains will probably be more pronounced by "carbing up" every day (except after 7ish).....i think those more concerned with controlling BF %'s during a bulk would benefit the most.....you could also just beef up during the bulk and ckd during a cut with clen or eca......that would salvage much of hard earned LBM ..... mark me if i'm wrong

also, i would add a cortisol blocker at night and morning

 

[ass_face]

i wonder if anyone tryed a keto diet or body opuse with steroids ,let say deca ,winstrol ...it dosen't mather.I'm wondering what happens on a cycle when the diet is only from proteins and high amount of fat.Give a line if somene tryed and tell me what happend with the colesterol levels?thank u!

Did a keto diet on a cycle once. Was a complete waste of gear for me. Gains were minimal.

 

[pitbullrocco]

Did a keto diet on a cycle once. Was a complete waste of gear for me. Gains were minimal.

do this instead

 

[Bruce]

sorry prizz but you crack me up bro with that avi being so funny and you are so serious with great posts.

 

[Mavafanculo]

yeah I do like prizz when cutting- ultra-low carb except during and after workout for glycogen replenishment. sometimes if a particularly brutal workout, carb up next morning as well.

seems to work better for me at holding on to muscle during dieting

 

[digimon7068]

Did test/deca/dbol during the spring. . .restricted carb intake for the first two weeks then restricted carbs 5 days per week and pigged on carbs days 6 and 7. . .did this for fifteen weeks. At this point I'm about 8 to 10 pounds heavier than last year at this time and I'm a fair amount leaner. I loved it! I'm 41, though. Age (and metabolism) may have a significant effect on the results.

 

[wwebound4life]

I'm on day 9 of Mr. X's ANPB diet, " going for 10-12 weeks " and down around 7-8 lbs. and NO loss of strength or endurance! Going to carb up in another 5 days to replinish and then right back on the ANPB!! To you guys who think this diet is to hard to stick too "no pun intended!" it's VERY easy to stay on cause it's so simple to plan your meals! But you HAVE to have a strong mind and STRONG willpower, I'll tell you that!










TRAIN, EAT, LIVE LIKE A ANIMAL!!

 

[swordfish151]

Im on Bodyopus right now while on tren/prop/eq....loosing about 2lbs a week...love it...strength is good...and always look forwared to the carbload Sat/Sun.

 

[toxicsambo]

I'm on day 9 of Mr. X's ANPB diet, " going for 10-12 weeks " and down around 7-8 lbs. and NO loss of strength or endurance! Going to carb up in another 5 days to replinish and then right back on the ANPB!! To you guys who think this diet is to hard to stick too "no pun intended!" it's VERY easy to stay on cause it's so simple to plan your meals! But you HAVE to have a strong mind and STRONG willpower, I'll tell you that!

TRAIN, EAT, LIVE LIKE A ANIMAL!!

The K.I.S.S principle makes things so much easier and Mr.X laid it out. Like you said, "willpower". I'm doing a combo of Mr.X ANPB and a PSMF. It's working amazingly.

For any of you guys who want it here's a link of Lyle McDonalds "BodyOpus Journal" http://low-carb.org/lylemcd/
It gives some good insight on what to expect when doing the BodyOpus diet. Also technical CKD pages. I think he's a good student of Duchaine and DiPasquale which is all right with me.

 

[flyingjer]

hey swodfish, can you give me a sample of your diet for a week, PM me if you like....i am doing test/tren/ and about to add var

 

[swordfish151]

hey swodfish, can you give me a sample of your diet for a week, PM me if you like....i am doing test/tren/ and about to add var

just pm'd you.