Kerry's First Wife

[Longhorn85]

Since John Kerry felt the need to bring Dick Cheney's daughter's personal life into the campaign, maybe the GOP should ask some questions about his own situation. For example:

"Julia Thorne, whose family was worth an estimated $300 million, married John Kerry on May 23, 1970. Alexandra was born three years later and Vanessa six.
The Kerry's divorced in 1988 after several years of separation. In 1997, two years after he married Terayza, he asked the Catholic Church for an annulment, which was vehemently contested by Julia, and it was granted.'


So after 18 years of marriage and two children he had the marriage "annulled". Does that mean to altar boy Kerry that it is as if he never married? How does that affect his relationship with his stepchildren? Or are they not considered to be his children? Was there any infidelity?

These questions should be asked now that Kerry has thrown down the personal life gauntlet.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Completely irrelivant. Just as Cheney's daughter being gay is. What does this have to do with EITHER of them being good leaders for our nation?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Longhorn, I believe that Bush is one of the worst presidents in US history, but Cheney having a lesbian daughter is not something that I would make fun of him over, or say effects his ability to lead.

 

[Longhorn85]

The kid gloves came off weeks ago, and like I said, Kerry has thrown the gauntlet down. In a race this close, you can't afford to not respond in kind. This is a perfectly legitimate question since Kerry is wearing his Catholicism on his sleeve lately and dragged Cheney's daughter's sexual lifestyle into the fray.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

The kid gloves came off weeks ago, and like I said, Kerry has thrown the gauntlet down. In a race this close, you can't afford to not respond in kind. This is a perfectly legitimate question since Kerry is wearing his Catholicism on his sleeve lately and dragged Cheney's daughter's sexual lifestyle into the fray.

You seem to be under the impression that Liberals, and most moderates place the same importance on such things in a canidate's personal lives that conservatives do. We don't care. The type of people who get uptight about such things are already hardcore conservative republicans, and are already voting for Bush.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

If you feel Kerry is wrong for using this tactic, why do you in turn do the same thing? Not saying it is wrong, but if it is, two wrongs don't make a right, orb. If you want to mimic Kerry, why don't you get out and support women's right to an abortion, and say that the invasion of Iraq was a mistake while you are at it? That would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

As a side note, many conservatives would denounce or disown their child for being a homosexual, but Cheney loves his daughter and accepts her, and I have to give the man some respect for that.

 

[Longhorn85]

I never said what Kerry did was wrong, alls fair in love, war and politics. I simply said that he crossed a line that previously had not been crossed. If I were advising Bush, I'd have a surrogate get Kerry's first marriage into the news cycle ASAP.

Even if it doesn't attract more voters to Bush, it will probably keep some fence sitters from voting for Kerry and also energize the conservative base.

That could be the difference.

 

[CFZB]

and I have to give the man some respect for that.

no you dont.... thats his job as a dad ....fuck him.

 

[AAP]

Well then, should we bring up Bush's first wife? You know, the one that confirms he was a coke head?

I expected better political threads from you, but this here is just grasping at straws.

 

[Sub-Zero]

good show bbf.

you may be a psychowack job sex freak maniac but your an intelligent guy.

i wish that i could be as eloquent as you

eloquent- i mean articualte

must spread karmac

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I never said what Kerry did was wrong, alls fair in love, war and politics. I simply said that he crossed a line that previously had not been crossed. If I were advising Bush, I'd have a surrogate get Kerry's first marriage into the news cycle ASAP.

So he got a divorce, and his church recognised it. What is the issue here... I'm not sure what you are getting at really? I don't think its illegal or anything. Bush snorted coke in college... that is probably more imoral in post peoples' eyes, and definately more illegal.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

good show bbf.

you may be a psychowack job sex freak maniac but your an intelligent guy.

i wish that i could be as eloquent as you

eloquent- i mean articualte

must spread karmac

Thanks... I think.... that is sort of a double-edged compliment, but hey... I'll take what I can get these days. LoL

 

[Longhorn85]

Well then, should we bring up Bush's first wife? You know, the one that confirms he was a coke head?

I expected better political threads from you, but this here is just grasping at straws.

It's not as if you have exactly taken the high road here, lol. At least my sleaze is factual.

 

[manny78]

I dont know many people who could get a marriage "annulled". He must have had some very good friends...

 

[Longhorn85]

So he got a divorce, and his church recognised it. What is the issue here... I'm not sure what you are getting at really? I don't think its illegal or anything. Bush snorted coke in college... that is probably more imoral in post peoples' eyes, and definately more illegal.

Legality is not an issue here. What evidence do you have that Bush used cocaine? In college you say? Not at Camp David as Kitty Kelley alleged?

 

[Gambino]

dubya was married once before? I never knew that.

LOL at the coke allegations, weak at best. even if he did do a bit of blow, is that relevant today? it's not like he does the shit now in days. furthermore, they are allegations only

 

[CFZB]

What evidence do you have that Bush used cocaine? QUOTE]

well, he had the jaw "clench and release" going in the debates...so i guess that counts.oh yeah and his brain is fried. 2 words ...PAY GO

 

[Longhorn85]

What evidence do you have that Bush used cocaine? QUOTE]

well, he had the jaw "clench and release" going in the debates...so i guess that counts.oh yeah and his brain is fried. 2 words ...PAY GO

I hope you can do better than that since I suspect you've really convinced yourself that Bush did cocaine.

 

[Longhorn85]

dubya was married once before?

No. It was a baseless claim.

 

[Dial_tone]

So what EXACTLY did Kerry say about Cheney's daughter? and don't spin it either. All I saw was a rather complimentary remark from Edwards. It sounds to me like you're getting desperate. Not long ago you were saying Kerry would be killed.

 

[CFZB]

even if he did do a bit of blow, is that relevant today?

You are Correct Sir !!...we all do stupid shit when were young...some of us stop at some point (unlike W. ) Relevance is the key word here...didnt it start with Edwards talking about gay marrage or something...and wasnt Kerry talking about homosexuals at the time of reference? thats the thing with republicans ..they are so jaded by thier own spin and underhandedness that they think that someone must have an "evil "Allterior motive for anything the "otherside" does.....most people dont have a problem with this topic anymore...adults can talk about this and make references and everything...really they can.

 

[AAP]

It's not as if you have exactly taken the high road here, lol. At least my sleaze is factual.

Bro, you know Kitty Kelly only publishes the truth.

Or is that Jackie Collins? I get them mixed up.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Bro, you know Kitty Kelly only publishes the truth.

Or is that Jackie Collins? I get them mixed up.

Hmmm... good questoin. I'll sleep on it.

 

[EnderJE]

I'm with DT. I missed the debate and don't really know what Kerry said about the lesbian daughter.

Besides, if we're dragging up the past about both people, then who KNOWS where that will lead too. Soon, we'll be talking about the Vietnam War...

 

[WODIN]

Did you know that Alan Keys

HAS
A
Gay
Daughter

too.... LOL!!

 

[WODIN]

Since John Kerry felt the need to bring Dick Cheney's daughter's personal life into the campaign, maybe the GOP should ask some questions about his own situation. For example:

"Julia Thorne, whose family was worth an estimated $300 million, married John Kerry on May 23, 1970. Alexandra was born three years later and Vanessa six.
The Kerry's divorced in 1988 after several years of separation. In 1997, two years after he married Terayza, he asked the Catholic Church for an annulment, which was vehemently contested by Julia, and it was granted.'


So after 18 years of marriage and two children he had the marriage "annulled". Does that mean to altar boy Kerry that it is as if he never married? How does that affect his relationship with his stepchildren? Or are they not considered to be his children? Was there any infidelity?

These questions should be asked now that Kerry has thrown down the personal life gauntlet.

And while were at it we might as well go over that car wreck of Laura Bush's when she was 17 that killed her boyfriend.

Her dad was the town sheriff so of course no charges were filed. But she did run a stop sign, easily knew that it was his car she saw coming and many think she hit him on purpose because he was going to dumb her.

Hmmmmm

 

[TADHealth]

Soon, we'll be talking about the Vietnam War...

You could be correct...

http://img94.exs.cx/img94/3891/patriotact.jpg

 

[WODIN]

I dont know many people who could get a marriage "annulled". He must have had some very good friends...

It's a common practice in the catholic church. I've got 3 friends here at work who've remarried in the past 6 years after getting annulments.

 

[Forge]

So after 18 years of marriage and two children he had the marriage "annulled". Does that mean to altar boy Kerry that it is as if he never married? How does that affect his relationship with his stepchildren? Or are they not considered to be his children? Was there any infidelity?

These questions should be asked now that Kerry has thrown down the personal life gauntlet.

Mudslinging, pathetic. You can do better, bro.

 

[bluepeter]

Whatever Kerry did in terms of his marriage is not relevant to his policies in running the country. Cheney's daughter being gay is very relevant because the administration of which he is a part wishes to treat homosexuals as second class citizens with less rights than 'normal' people.

Kerry getting a marriage anulled will not have any connection to amending the constitution of the United States.

What the fuck does Dick say to his daughter every day? Sorry honey, gotta go with the boss man on this one. You shouldn't have the same rights as your mother and I because you're abnormal and homosexuality is a sin.

 

[Fast Twitch Fiber]

These questions should be asked now that Kerry has thrown down the personal life gauntlet.

We should also bring up Laura Bush's vehicular homicide for which she was never charged.

 

[Longhorn85]

So what EXACTLY did Kerry say about Cheney's daughter? and don't spin it either.

Do you really want me to tell you? How about picking up a copy of any newspaper and reading the front page?

 

[the nature boy]

Did you know that Alan Keys

HAS
A
Gay
Daughter

too.... LOL!!

Anyone would be gay if they had to have Keyes as a father.

 

[Longhorn85]

We should also bring up Laura Bush's vehicular homicide for which she was never charged.

We will no doubt hear about this. The question is, who would benefit from this kind of report? Laura Bush is extremely popular and I think it would backfire BIG TIME if this were exploited.

We will definitely hear about Bush's DWI again soon.

Remember, Kerry is the one who offerred that he was an altar boy. He wants to come across as a perfect Catholic, yet he had a marriage annulled after 18 years and two children and he is pro-abortion, even voted against partial birth abortion.

I think he is at risk to lose a significant share of the Catholic vote, which he needs to win.

 

[Dial_tone]

Do you really want me to tell you? How about picking up a copy of any newspaper and reading the front page?

If I didn't I wouldn't have asked. Anyway, in exchange for that weak ass comment you go after his previous marriage dirt? Wow...you really are desperate.

 

[Longhorn85]

If I didn't I wouldn't have asked. Anyway, in exchange for that weak ass comment you go after his previous marriage dirt? Wow...you really are desperate.

BTW I wasn't being a smart ass with that comment, you already anticipated spin in my answer anyway. Or, yes I was, sorry.

But it is all over the news (print, tv, radio) so why take my word for it?

As mentioned in another thread, Kerry and Edwards both mentioned Cheney's daughter because they thought it made a hard-hitting and ironic political point. So they went for it.

I think it backfired.