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Kerry picks Edwards

All candidates for president and vice president suck regardless if democrap or repooplican
 
ABB and fucking Cheney

Cheney was on Australian Sunday TV last weekend, fucking jerkoff, how about you fuck up your own country's foreign policy? We don't need your shit here!
 
U mean the ultra right wing Post got it wrong?

LMAO!
 
Amazingly, people are applauding the potential of a trail lawyer one bullet from the White House.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Amazingly, people are applauding the potential of a trail lawyer one bullet from the White House.
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LMAO!!!
 
WODIN said:
U mean the ultra right wing Post got it wrong?

LMAO!
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LMAO...I saw that on the newsstand this morning and I started laughing as soon as I received the breaking news alert.

Even money that tomorrow, the Daily News will have as big a story about how the Post fucked it up, as the actual story.
 
HG Pennypacker said:
LMAO...I saw that on the newsstand this morning and I started laughing as soon as I received the breaking news alert.

Even money that tomorrow, the Daily News will have as big a story about how the Post fucked it up, as the actual story.
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:) HE HE...
 
The true axis of evil is liberal citizens being unable to think for themselves. And therefore rely on talking heads for their ideals.
 
Code said:
The true axis of evil is liberal citizens being unable to think for themselves. And therefore rely on talking heads for their ideals.
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not just liberal citizens, dumb citizens in general

if citizens actually thought for themselves we wouldn't have a choice between two douchebags for president

judging from the applause after my viewing of fahrenheit 9/11, i think kerry is going to win, no doubt

not only are people dumb enough to eat up that shameful steaming pile of propaganda, but they're willing to pay 10 bucks to be brainwashed by it
 
The rest of the world, with the exception of a a few right wing heads of government, is hoping for dear life that Bush won't be President nest year.

I'm pessimistic right now, incumbency is the Bush's greatest strength - and in war time and during a sense of a national crisis, incumbency is an overwhelming advantage.
 
Beautiful Avatar Wodin, but bad politics.

John Edwards was kind of an unimaginative choice since just about everyone has been throwing his name around as a possibility since the primaries. Therefore no "new" energy injected into the enery-hungry Kerry campaign.

How's this for irony? Although Kerry has been selected to possibly help in the South, I predict that Kerry-Edwards will not win North Carolina, or ANY southern state.
 
I think so, yes, in addition to energizing the labor vote in states like MO, OH and PA. Also may help with the youf of america.
 
And I thought he got selected because he kind of looks like Kennedy, well not quite but more than Kerry, who's about as sexy as Truman.
 
MAX 300 said:
And I thought he got selected because he kind of looks like Kennedy, well not quite but more than Kerry, who's about as sexy as Truman.
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Yeah, he is a pretty boy. Ironically, he is the first candidate for pres or vp I can think of that has an obese wife. Barbara Bush was large, but I don't think she was fat. Tipper was a little chubby, but cute.

Edward's wife is straight up fat.
 
Edwards was the biggest ass-kisser at all the debates...you really want a sycophant one bullet away from the White House?

he's well-spoken and telegenic, sure, but it must always be remembered that he made his wealth by using the machinery of government to take it from other peoeple, not through entrepreurship or wealth creation.

Populism is the wrong mentality for leadership.
 
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Kerry is richer than GWB, and Edwards is like 3x richer than GWB.

Something you missed on the news in the past few days? Or were you too busy trying out those rose colored glasses to tune in? :verygood:

WODIN said:
Come again?
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I cant wait for the debates. Edwards can acutally talk, not like that boring ass lieberman, that guy put me to sleep.
The thing I like about edwards is he was born low income. So what if he's a rich trial lawyer, he worked his way up, its the american way right? Plus he was sticking it to the HMO's, those cheap bastards will let you die if in a second if they can get away with it.
 
Add to the mix that there is no way in hell two rich guys are gonna give the "blue collar" workers a tax break at the expense of the rich (them).

Thats my biggest beaf with Dems, is they play the "blue collar" card but never deliver.

MattTheSkywalker said:
Edwards was the biggest ass-kisser at all the debates...you really want a sycophant one bullet away from the White House?

he's well-spoken and telegenic, sure, but it must always be remembered that he made his wealth by using the machinery of government to take it from other peoeple, not through entrepreurship or wealth creation.

Populism is the wrong mentality for leadership.
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Code said:
Kerry is richer than GWB, and Edwards is like 3x richer than GWB.

Something you missed on the news in the past few days? Or were you too busy trying out those rose colored glasses to tune in? :verygood:
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Where's the numbers?
 
Code said:
Add to the mix that there is no way in hell two rich guys are gonna give the "blue collar" workers a tax break at the expense of the rich (them).

Thats my biggest beaf with Dems, is they play the "blue collar" card but never deliver.
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Contrary to some (rightwing) opinions, some people put the good of the country before themselves.
Ever think that Kerry and Edwards could have enough money to be comfortable and not try to milk the country for more?
 
jestro said:
Contrary to some (rightwing) opinions, some people put the good of the country before themselves.
Ever think that Kerry and Edwards could have enough money to be comfortable and not try to milk the country for more?
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Kerry's is inherited / marriage, so he probably does not think about it very much. Has Kerry ever had a job? (in the private sector)

Edwards - populist - scary. He amassed his fortune through using the machinery of government (not the market) to transfer wealth to himself.

So basically, you have two rich guys running for President who have never earned a dollar though the typical creation of wealth mechanisms of the private sector.

Does that mean anything to you? To me it means they don't understand working to create wealth, and that usually means an administration that countenances things like higher taxes and other redistributive programs.

Makes me want to hide under a desk.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Kerry's is inherited / marriage, so he probably does not think about it very much. Has Kerry ever had a job? (in the private sector)

Edwards - no. He amassed his fortune through using the machinery of government (not the market) to transfer wealth to himself.

So basically, you have two rich guys running for President who have never earned a dollar though the typical creation of wealth mechanisms of the private sector. Does that mean anything to you?
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Yeah. That they're better than dubya and Chains........
 
Code said:
Add to the mix that there is no way in hell two rich guys are gonna give the "blue collar" workers a tax break at the expense of the rich (them).

Thats my biggest beaf with Dems, is they play the "blue collar" card but never deliver.
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This is about Kerry, Edwards....Not Bush/ Cheney.
 
bluepeter said:
Yeah. That they're better than dubya and Chains........
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Not your most well thought out response ever. :) And I am only discussing the merits of Kerry and Edwards for now.

Edwards is basically a guy who will point to the house on the hill and say "let;s take his money to pay for 'social program A, B, C' and so on.
Nothing inflames the populace faster than saying "let's make rich people pay their share".

Nothing decimates the economic vitality of the nation faster than those types of policies. This is Edwards all the way: his primary candidacy was all populism, almost as bad as Dean.

Kerry is a guy who - I don't think has ever had a private sector job - is the son of a career diplomat, and married into crazy money TWICE. (lucky?) You can bet that his houses on the hill are well protected by offshore trusts.

Bush has a lot of problems. But populism is not one of them.
 
WODIN said:
This is about Kerry, Edwards....Not Bush/ Cheney.
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Kerry is 10-20 times richer than the other three candidates combined...which is fine...execpt he did not produce a nickel of that wealth.

neither did edwards - he took it.
 
Frankly, I would expect the republicans to do this. They don't really promise to tax the rich and give the poor a tax break.

Both parties will tax the poor more and give breaks to the rich. But the dems have conned the average worker into thinking otherwise.

I'm not saying what they ultimately do is right or wrong, but shit, at least American knows what they're getting with the incumbents.

WODIN said:
This is about Kerry, Edwards....Not Bush/ Cheney.
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MattTheSkywalker said:
Kerry is 10-20 times richer than the other three candidates combined...which is fine...execpt he did not produce a nickel of that wealth.

neither did edwards - he took it.
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Edwards earned his money as much as any white collar worker earns their money. You dont have to dig ditches or flip burgers to "earn" money.
And so what if Kerry married a rich bitch? I would do the same if I could reel in a sugar momma.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Kerry is 10-20 times richer than the other three candidates combined...which is fine...execpt he did not produce a nickel of that wealth.

neither did edwards - he took it.
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Kerry has a prenup and can't touch the heinz fortune are you including that in your factoring?
 
jestro said:
I cant wait for the debates. Edwards can acutally talk
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Sure, he can talk. But someone as inexperienced as him is going to have his preverbial ass handed to him by Cheney (whether you like him or not).
 
jestro said:
Edwards earned his money as much as any white collar worker earns their money. You dont have to dig ditches or flip burgers to "earn" money.
And so what if Kerry married a rich bitch? I would do the same if I could reel in a sugar momma.
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I never objected to what Kerry did - lucky him, right? Good deal. But it does make it ironic when he is garnering endorsements from labor unions even though he never worked in the private sector (Correct me if I am wrong there).

Edwards didn't 'earn' his money. He took it, through a court proceeding. When you 'earn' money, it is given to you voluntarily in exchange for a good or service you provide. Typically, wealth is created when money is earned.
This does not describe the way Edwards made his money.

No wealth was "created" when Edwards got his money. He used legislation to take money from 'entity A' and transfer it to himself. Did Rodney King earn his money too?

If a local government confiscated property and sold it at auction, using the proceeds for the county treasury, would you say it 'earned' that money?

In other countries it is called asset seizure. Here, because of our legal lobby, we call it 'trial lawyering'. It's certainly not "earned money".

It's a mindset of poor people aligned against "big business", and using the courts to take business's assets. You call that earned? it was earned when the companies Edwards sued earned it.
 
People who have earned their wealth in America get screwed.

but considering the lesser of two evile (our only apparent choices) Ill take that over King George and his sycophants ANY day.
 
75th said:
Sure, he can talk. But someone as inexperienced as him is going to have his preverbial ass handed to him by Cheney (whether you like him or not).
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I seriously doubt that....
 
hooch said:
I seriously doubt that....
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Cheney:

-Former head of the Defense Dept.
-Former Sec. of Defense
-Former Chief of Staff
-Former Deputy Assistant
-Served on House Intelligence Committee
-Served on House Intelligence Budget Subcommittee

Edwards:
-Currently serving his first term in Senate.

Edwards is a bright guy, but so is Cheney. Plus, the whole experience factor.....
 
75th said:
Cheney:

-Former head of the Defense Dept.
-Former Sec. of Defense
-Former Chief of Staff
-Former Deputy Assistant
-Served on House Intelligence Committee
-Served on House Intelligence Budget Subcommittee

Edwards:
-Currently serving his first term in Senate.

Edwards is a bright guy, but so is Cheney. Plus, the whole experience factor.....
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I think that a trial lawyer should be able to hold his own in a debate. They were talking about Edwards on NPR yesterday, and apparently he was so good at argueing his cases, other lawyers would come watch him in action.
Unless Cheney is going to blow his own horn the whole debate, and just bring up his resume, eventually they will have to DEBATE ISSUES. It'll be a slaughter.
 
75th said:
Cheney:

-Former head of the Defense Dept.
-Former Sec. of Defense
-Former Chief of Staff
-Former Deputy Assistant.
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and soon to be Former Vice President.
 
jestro said:
I think that a trial lawyer should be able to hold his own in a debate. They were talking about Edwards on NPR yesterday, and apparently he was so good at argueing his cases, other lawyers would come watch him in action.
Unless Cheney is going to blow his own horn the whole debate, and just bring up his resume, eventually they will have to DEBATE ISSUES. It'll be a slaughter.
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Being a good debator (or master debator) is one thing, but its another when you have little to no knowledge of what you are actually arguing about.
 
I hope Kerry and Edwards don't have as many buddies at Enron and Haliburton as GW and Cheney.

If we start accusing the Dems of not doing enough for the poor and lower income groups, which I agree most centre left parties don't, not in the US nor anywhere else, then we should point out that the stark contrast between the Dems and the GOP is due to the extrene right wing and economic rationalist policies of the GOP. And the fact that this admin is catering to big business.
 
Clinton was far more buddy-buddy with Enron CEO than the Bush admin.

It is so totally specious to suggest Cheney/Bush were more involved with Enron than any other administration.

MAX 300 said:
I hope Kerry and Edwards don't have as many buddies at Enron and Haliburton as GW and Cheney.
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75th said:
Being a good debator (or master debator) is one thing, but its another when you have little to no knowledge of what you are actually arguing about.
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Didn't Dan Quayle get his butt kicked in the debates? I'm not sure how much it matters.
 
75th said:
Being a good debator (or master debator) is one thing, but its another when you have little to no knowledge of what you are actually arguing about.
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im pretty sure he is going to have extensive knowledge in all the areas which will be debated

a lawyer can argue with anyone anytime anywhere and one as good as him shouldnt have problems

i dont see him losing any debates
 
On a note related to your unrelated note:

If your government wouldn't allow the intrusion, then it wouldn't happen.
If your people want Australia out of cahoots with the US, you should vote that way.

MAX 300 said:
Unrelated to this thread, could somebody in the US please tell your government to: STAY THE FUCK OUT OF AUSTRALIAN POLITICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,10073618%5E421,00.html

This shit is really starting to piss people off here.
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MAX 300 said:
Unrelated to this thread, could somebody in the US please tell your government to: STAY THE FUCK OUT OF AUSTRALIAN POLITICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,10073618%5E421,00.html

This shit is really starting to piss people off here.
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The way Bush is going now in 4 more years the US wont have a single friend

bush is getting involved in so much that other countries are begining to hate the US
 
People seem to forget that Bush himself never had any experience Senate or otherwise noteworthy and he is poorest speech giver in the history of things that are capable of speech, primitive or otherwise. So if he can make it as President, how can Edwards be any worse?
 
AAP said:
People seem to forget that Bush himself never had any experience Senate or otherwise noteworthy and he is poorest speech giver in the history of things that are capable of speech, primitive or otherwise. So if he can make it as President, how can Edwards be any worse?
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He doesn't have the "strategery" that Dubya has.
 
I laughed my ass off this morning when a reporter asked this long winded question about what Bush sees as the key differences between Cheney and Edwards and how their backgrounds were different and blah blah blah... Bush responded with "Cheney is qualified to be president.... next question." Fucking Classic.
 
Code said:
On a note related to your unrelated note:

If your government wouldn't allow the intrusion, then it wouldn't happen.
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Our current government is the most kiss-ass, spineless government this country has ever had. The Bush administration is not content to just treating our government as its lapdog however, they're telling our opposition party how to run their foreign policy as well.

Code said:
If your people want Australia out of cahoots with the US, you should vote that way.
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I couldn't agree with you more, it's a shame that Australians in general are so apathetic about politics that they wouldn't even bother to vote if it wasn't compulsory.
 
75th said:
Cheney:

-Former head of the Defense Dept.
-Former Sec. of Defense
-Former Chief of Staff
-Former Deputy Assistant
-Served on House Intelligence Committee
-Served on House Intelligence Budget Subcommittee

Edwards:
-Currently serving his first term in Senate.

Edwards is a bright guy, but so is Cheney. Plus, the whole experience factor.....
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That looks a lot like gore running against bush. Funny how that didn't seem to matter.
 
Code said:
Clinton was far more buddy-buddy with Enron CEO than the Bush admin.

It is so totally specious to suggest Cheney/Bush were more involved with Enron than any other administration.
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That is total Bullshit. GW called Ken Lay.."kennyboy".
 
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,338580,00.html


In case you're too lazy to click the link (cuz it seems you're too lazy to actually research shit before declaring it gospel)

"But Enron's cozy relationship with Washington didn't start there. Documents obtained by TIME show the energy giant enjoyed much closer ties with Clinton Administration regulators than was generally known. Long before Cheney's task force met with Enron officials and included their ideas in Bush's energy plan, Clinton's energy team was doing much the same thing. Drafting a 1995 plan to help facilitate cash flow and credit for energy producers, it asked for Enron's input—and listened. The staff was directed to "rework the proposal to take into account the specific comments and suggestions you made," Clinton Deputy Energy Secretary Bill White wrote an Enron official"

WODIN said:
That is total Bullshit. GW called Ken Lay.."kennyboy".
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MattTheSkywalker said:
Amazingly, people are applauding the potential of a trail lawyer one bullet from the White House.
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Our best presidents have traditionally been those that were the least qualified.

Could have sworn he was a Congressman?

Previous history as a lawyer? Like that is unusual? Most presidents were.
 
Testosterone boy said:
Our best presidents have traditionally been those that were the least qualified.

Could have sworn he was a Congressman?

Previous history as a lawyer? Like that is unusual? Most presidents were.
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Lincoln, Washington, FDR, who judges qualified...I just meant that as a trial lawyer, Edwards is a populist and a natural enemy of the private sector - all lawyers are - so he is unfit for leadership of the US.

BTW his approval ratings in NC are horrible.
 
Dude read the link backing it up, where's your fucking proof of anything.
You're a massive tool shed for the left-wing.

You should consider adding a wing to the shed while you're at it.

Testosterone boy said:
Code is the biggest damned liar at EF. Period.

By a long shot.
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MattTheSkywalker said:
Lincoln, Washington, FDR, who judges qualified...I just meant that as a trial lawyer, Edwards is a populist and a natural enemy of the private sector - all lawyers are - so he is unfit for leadership of the US.

BTW his approval ratings in NC are horrible.
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The monied private sector has been receiving 3 1/2 years of non-stop fellatio..minimum. But only the monied private sector. The struggling private sector gets ignored....little campaign donation potential. Certainly no Carlyle investment potential.

Personally..........I think lawyers are trained to walk on both sides of the fence. He may have chosen to be a defense attorney next just to round himself out. Happens quite often.

I don't see why people get excited about supposed agends anyways.....politicians rarely do what they were supposed to do.

He looks good = female vote.

ABBushbarians
 
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WODIN said:
That is total Bullshit. GW called Ken Lay.."kennyboy".
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Indeed.........ole kennyboy was offered a cabinet position but noyone could decide what cabinet position would be best.

Kenny was Jr's biggest lifetime financial benfactor to political campaigns in fact.
 
Testosterone boy said:
The monied private sector has been receiving 3 1/2 years of non-stop fellatio..minimum. But only the monied private sector.
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more like 150 years...since the days of raliroads. Government has sold itself since there was a buyer. So...what is your point there sir?

The struggling private sector gets ignored....little campaign donation potential. Certainly no Carlyle investment potential.
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You're the new expert in private equity? Welcome. or did Michael Moore teach you that?

Personally..........I think lawyers are trained to walk on both sides of the fence. He may have chosen to be a defense attorney next just to round himself out. Happens quite often.

I don't see why people get excited about supposed agends anyways.....politicians rarely do what they were supposed to do.
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I have 25+ JDs here - I know all to well that lawyers will sing whatever song the client wants. But they always sing to the same accompaniment: "who is paying my bills?" Lawyers are never in the game to create wealth - it is antithetical to what they do by definition. So it's not an agenda, it's the way he looks at stuff, that is so unfit for leadership.

He looks good = female vote.
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If only women were so simple. :)
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Lawyers are never in the game to create wealth - it is antithetical to what they do by definition. So it's not an agenda, it's the way he looks at stuff, that is so unfit for leadership.
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word.

Code said:
Frankly, I would expect the republicans to do this. They don't really promise to tax the rich and give the poor a tax break.

Both parties will tax the poor more and give breaks to the rich. But the dems have conned the average worker into thinking otherwise.

I'm not saying what they ultimately do is right or wrong, but shit, at least American knows what they're getting with the incumbents.
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I have been saying this for years...

75th said:
Being a good debator (or master debator) is one thing, but its another when you have little to no knowledge of what you are actually arguing about.
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Unfortunately most americans are oblivious to the content and definition of the 25-cent words anyways...

MAX 300 said:
Our current government is the most kiss-ass, spineless government this country has ever had.
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Sounds like a personally thing to me...

it almost sounds like you are saying it is your government and not ours that is at fault for how you feel and that you should be bitching about them and not us...

Oh wait, that's exactly it.
 
If this were anyone else making this claim, there'd be a link or at least something to back it up.

But it's Tboy, so it means he heard from someone who saw it on a website.

Testosterone boy said:
Indeed.........ole kennyboy was offered a cabinet position but noyone could decide what cabinet position would be best.

Kenny was Jr's biggest lifetime financial benfactor to political campaigns in fact.
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Code said:
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,338580,00.html


In case you're too lazy to click the link (cuz it seems you're too lazy to actually research shit before declaring it gospel)

"But Enron's cozy relationship with Washington didn't start there. Documents obtained by TIME show the energy giant enjoyed much closer ties with Clinton Administration regulators than was generally known. Long before Cheney's task force met with Enron officials and included their ideas in Bush's energy plan, Clinton's energy team was doing much the same thing. Drafting a 1995 plan to help facilitate cash flow and credit for energy producers, it asked for Enron's input—and listened. The staff was directed to "rework the proposal to take into account the specific comments and suggestions you made," Clinton Deputy Energy Secretary Bill White wrote an Enron official"
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I find it funny that all theses corporations did their dirty work under the Clinton administration, while under the Bush admin they are being prosecuted. A fact that seems to be lost on mainstream media.

PS... nice ownage of Wodin.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
more like 150 years...since the days of raliroads. Government has sold itself since there was a buyer. So...what is your point there sir?



You're the new expert in private equity? Welcome. or did Michael Moore teach you that?



I have 25+ JDs here - I know all to well that lawyers will sing whatever song the client wants. But they always sing to the same accompaniment: "who is paying my bills?" Lawyers are never in the game to create wealth - it is antithetical to what they do by definition. So it's not an agenda, it's the way he looks at stuff, that is so unfit for leadership.



If only women were so simple. :)
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You know me by now........I am here to bitch about anything related to the admin. :chomp:
 
The_Eviscerator said:
I find it funny that all theses corporations did their dirty work under the Clinton administration, while under the Bush admin they are being prosecuted. A fact that seems to be lost on mainstream media.

PS... nice ownage of Wodin.
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what is better how they keep referring to it although evidence to clinton's friendliness to them as well has been posted... :rolleyes:
 
Arrr, Matey. Thar be love enough to go 'round.
Now hop upon me man-saber and sharpen it up a bit will ya?!

AAP said:
If I bitch about Bush, will ya'll love me too?
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Becoming said:
Sounds like a personally thing to me...

it almost sounds like you are saying it is your government and not ours that is at fault for how you feel and that you should be bitching about them and not us...

Oh wait, that's exactly it.
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Dude, if our government treated your government as its personal bitch you probably wouldn't be too happy about it either. I am doing plenty of bitching about the Australian government - it's still the US government that started this war and a lot of other shit. The Australian government has made itself guilty by association.
 
Code said:
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,338580,00.html


In case you're too lazy to click the link (cuz it seems you're too lazy to actually research shit before declaring it gospel)

"But Enron's cozy relationship with Washington didn't start there. Documents obtained by TIME show the energy giant enjoyed much closer ties with Clinton Administration regulators than was generally known. Long before Cheney's task force met with Enron officials and included their ideas in Bush's energy plan, Clinton's energy team was doing much the same thing. Drafting a 1995 plan to help facilitate cash flow and credit for energy producers, it asked for Enron's input—and listened. The staff was directed to "rework the proposal to take into account the specific comments and suggestions you made," Clinton Deputy Energy Secretary Bill White wrote an Enron official"
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You got any notes from Kenny Boy to Clinton about his state of health?

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushlay1.html

You got any letters of thanks from Clinton to Kenny Boy?

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushlay2.html

You got any ass kiss festival Initations from Kenny Boy to Clinton?

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushlay3.html

You think Kenny Boy ever had thought he could call in favors from clinton like he could shrub?
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushlay4.html

Did Clinton ever send Kennyboy a fond birthday note?

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushlay5.html

Christmas thank you note from Kenny Boy.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushlay6.html

I wonder if Kennyboy send an invite to bill and hillary or a copy of the cd?
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushlay7.html
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushlay8.html

Wow, the Shrubs sending presents to the Lays. I'd bet money the Clintons never sent them a painting. Maybe some bullshit white house trinket but a "TEjano Santa"..ha!

Check out the personal note just beaming with pride for his buddy George.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushlay9.html

Congrats to Shrub and pushing for Electric Industry Restructuring.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushlay11.html

Here is some good ground work conspiracy shit for anyone who can put two and two together in economics. Kenny boy marks out "Dear Govenor" with, "George".
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushlay12.html

More pushing for deregulation so that Enron could rape California. Well it doesn't say that perse but history has born that out.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushlay13.html


Urging Shrub to go to a Tokyo conference about Globalization.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushlay14.html

Thanks for shrubs efforts in electric industry restructuring.....

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushlay15.html
 
wodin and code have effectively proven that both parties are dirty whores for large corproations.

Thanks.

Now I need to go verify those 'earth is round' claims people are making.
:)
 
75th said:
Cheney:

-Former head of the Defense Dept.
-Former Sec. of Defense
-Former Chief of Staff
-Former Deputy Assistant
-Served on House Intelligence Committee
-Served on House Intelligence Budget Subcommittee

Edwards:
-Currently serving his first term in Senate.

Edwards is a bright guy, but so is Cheney. Plus, the whole experience factor.....
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So where has Cheney's "experience" gotton us....???? 9/11, Bogus Intel, A War based on bullshit,....and worst of all, hundreds of dead US soldiers...
 
So Cheney is responsible for gathering intel now?

I ain't getting into the purpose of the war on terror again, I'm tired of posting links and shit.

hooch said:
So where has Cheney's "experience" gotton us....???? 9/11, Bogus Intel, A War based on bullshit,....and worst of all, hundreds of dead US soldiers...
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MAX 300 said:
Dude, if our government treated your government as its personal bitch you probably wouldn't be too happy about it either. I am doing plenty of bitching about the Australian government - it's still the US government that started this war and a lot of other shit. The Australian government has made itself guilty by association.
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Again, sounds like your more pissed at yourself... but I guess it is wrong to blame oneself for one's problems... it is always the other guy that made you do it... You are right, Australia is a victim in all this.... BAD US!!! :rolleyes:

(this sounds so left wing)
 
Code said:
So Cheney is responsible for gathering intel now?

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-Former head of the Defense Dept.
-Former Sec. of Defense
-Former Chief of Staff
-Former Deputy Assistant
-Served on House Intelligence Committee
-Served on House Intelligence Budget Subcommittee

My point is that Cheney's so called "experience" didn't do jack shit for this country...
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