ken shamrock... Tito Ortiz

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Ken Shamrock and the Lion's Den fighters have always put a lot of effort into strength training. Some other schools focus more on cardio or BJJ.

If you look at many of the fighters it's quite obvious who is on. Mark Kerr has admitted using, Mark Coleman & Kevin Randleman have always been physical specimens, Baroni is too obvious to bother talking about. A little juice with their levels of conditioning and training make for interesting fights.

Matt Hughes is a genetic freak and is very well rounded fighter. Wrestler by background with years of training with the Miletech Fighting Systems. His stand up is solid, ground and pound is deadly and he can submit as well. Royce is a legend and a pioneer but I think he will have his hands full with Matt. Hughes by decision.

 

[karachi183]

Ken Shamrock and the Lion's Den fighters have always put a lot of effort into strength training. Some other schools focus more on cardio or BJJ.

If you look at many of the fighters it's quite obvious who is on. Mark Kerr has admitted using, Mark Coleman & Kevin Randleman have always been physical specimens, Baroni is too obvious to bother talking about. A little juice with their levels of conditioning and training make for interesting fights.

Matt Hughes is a genetic freak and is very well rounded fighter. Wrestler by background with years of training with the Miletech Fighting Systems. His stand up is solid, ground and pound is deadly and he can submit as well. Royce is a legend and a pioneer but I think he will have his hands full with Matt. Hughes by decision.

Matt Hughes is over rated! In no way i'm i trying to take anything away from him, he's respectful-great all around fighter but IMO the guys over rated.. At least even he says his chance to win will come from a stand up fight. Funny how he's a wrestler tho...

 

[KD1]

Matt Hughes is over rated! In no way i'm i trying to take anything away from him, he's respectful-great all around fighter but IMO the guys over rated.. At least even he says his chance to win will come from a stand up fight. Funny how he's a wrestler tho...

I agree he is over-rated, but he is still the best in his division right now. I watched the replay of him vs GSP the other day and what really stood out is how slow and plodding Matt looked compared to his fights from years earlier. He has lost a step and its only a matter of time before the younger lions in the sport take him down.

Speaking of Mark Kerr, check him out today - he looks like shit!

http://www.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/28987.jpg

 

[Bruce]

i don't care much for the ufc anymore, when there was no rounds and no gloves gracie would wax anyones ass, matt hughes you name it. the only man i saw match him was good old kenny sham

 

[UFC22]

Matt Hughes is over rated! In no way i'm i trying to take anything away from him, he's respectful-great all around fighter but IMO the guys over rated.. At least even he says his chance to win will come from a stand up fight. Funny how he's a wrestler tho...

Definitely not overrated! Matt is an animal with a full arsenal of fighting techniques. He trains with the best! There is 6 world champions at his gym, its not a fluke that he takes everyone out. When he lost to BJ Penn in UFC 46 going for his 6th consecutive title defense he got stupid and lost. Now BJ Penn is an incredible jiu jitsu phenom as well as Gracie. So who knows Gracie may submit hughes but it's a long shot. If gracie does win I might think the UFC sets fights, im sure this wouldnt be the first one! I dont know how you guys can say hughes is overrated, thats a joke.

 

[dullboy]

i don't care much for the ufc anymore, when there was no rounds and no gloves gracie would wax anyones ass, matt hughes you name it. the only man i saw match him was good old kenny sham

wasn't there some russian dude who beat gracie pretty badly?

 

[serapio2]

What you all think of vanderlei silva?

 

[Bruce]

no royce gracie retired undefeated with a draw with kenny. if you are thinking of oleg taktarov, he was a serious bad ass. all natural for sure and hung in there with shamrock a few times. he was ex kgb and not to be fucked with. he acts now, he was in 15 minutes with robert deniro and another flic can't remember, there are a lot of brazilians that claim they beat royce in vale tudo but never seen it myself. he is boring but man he never lost and he was only 185.

wasn't there some russian dude who beat gracie pretty badly?

 

[zouave]

Yeah the Brad Pitt debate lives on lol. Well at least its better than the Carrot Top debate over at bb.com, lol.

lol. sorry. i'm new, didn't know it was an ongoing debate. won't mention it again...even though i'm right

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

Hate to say it but hughes by desicion is the call Royce will be on his back the whole fight....Hughes will land little rabit punches and win the three round decision...

Tito is huge on GH...thats coming from his mouth...I won his grappling tournament last year...

Ken juices randleman and vanderlei loves gh as well. Most of those guys love it because there is no way to test for it... at least yet...
o and jeff monson loves deca and is 5'9" and is 234