ken shamrock... Tito Ortiz

[bigrand]

Tito was going toe to toe with Chuck, taking punches before he got eye gouged, then it took like 15 shots from Chuck to floor Tito. Chucks TD defense is good, but once hes on the ground TIto would wreck him i think (When Titos on his game, he is dominant on the ground), not to mention he has way better cardio then chuck. The problem is Chuck is such a good counter puncher, i think tito has a good chin though and could last (i still dont think chuck Koed Randleman, looked like a flash knockdown) and hes taken chucks punches before (the first round, he was eatin them and still standing).

I just wanna see chuck loose, hes not the best, i think Wandy, Shogun, Arona, Page, and Tito could all beat him. Arona went the distance with Fedor for Christ sake and it was close!
UFC protects guys though, thats why they wont feed chuck to those guys, or let Sylvia fight JLB (good fight).

I actually would love to see McDonald learn BJJ and get a ground game, he is wicked on his feet, more fluid than Crocop, minus the LHK!

 

[UFC22]

Well Chuck was a better wrestler than Tito when they use to wrestle together back in the day. I think tito and chuch should rematch and I'm sure it will happen in the near future. I do think tito will get KOed though. I love tito so I would like to see him the champ again. Chuck can be dominated pretty well though as we saw in couture lidell 1.

I think it is true though the UFC does protect there fighters from tremendous threats. I jsut wana see BJ Penn Hughes 2 damnit! lol... 61 is going to be quite entertaining tho, can't wait for that one.

Micheal McDonald from K1? Yeah he is so awsome to watch! His stand up is flawless. I dont know how well he would do in the mma though, even if he did pick up grappling & submissions. I think cro cop would beat down McDonald in stand up though without a doubt. Height and reach becomes a factor there. Cro Cops leg kicks are far superior also.

 

[bigrand]

Well Chuck was a better wrestler than Tito when they use to wrestle together back in the day. I think tito and chuch should rematch and I'm sure it will happen in the near future. I do think tito will get KOed though. I love tito so I would like to see him the champ again. Chuck can be dominated pretty well though as we saw in couture lidell 1.

I think it is true though the UFC does protect there fighters from tremendous threats. I jsut wana see BJ Penn Hughes 2 damnit! lol... 61 is going to be quite entertaining tho, can't wait for that one.

Micheal McDonald from K1? Yeah he is so awsome to watch! His stand up is flawless. I dont know how well he would do in the mma though, even if he did pick up grappling & submissions. I think cro cop would beat down McDonald in stand up though without a doubt. Height and reach becomes a factor there. Cro Cops leg kicks are far superior also.

In a standup, im not sure, i still think McDonald has better hands and combinations.....CC relies too much on his LHK as of late...Fedor took it away and CC looked like a completly different person after that, not aggressive, not doing much of anything.....id like to see it....McDonald should take the same route as CC, work on ground defence and TD defense...CC doesnt really have a ground game either, but its fuckin hard to get him there.

I wanna see hughes penn II also, i was furious with Penns loss to GSP, when Penn was on his way to the cage, i had goosebumps, havent been that excited for a phenominal fight in a long ass time. After round one, GSP was beat up, Penn looked good as new.....he just really needs to work on his gas tank so he would have fucked up GSP all three rounds!

Penn will whip Matt again.....cant wait for it.....unless GSP beats hughes first.....likely i think.

From what ive heard, Titos problem with Chuck was Chuck stuffing his takedown attempts and Tito is a ground guy, if Chuck gets on his back, i think Tito can take him, like Randy did in the first fight and Page was doin pretty good putting Chuck on his back too.

Im hyped for the next GP round as well as 61 (would have been nice of Ovareem made it to the next round though).
They really need to have guys from UFC fight Pride guys....Dana has no nuts though.

 

[cityhick]

I havent read this post over the last weekend but was curious if anyone had the Tito/Forrest Fight?

 

[UFC22]

In a standup, im not sure, i still think McDonald has better hands and combinations.....CC relies too much on his LHK as of late...Fedor took it away and CC looked like a completly different person after that, not aggressive, not doing much of anything.....id like to see it....McDonald should take the same route as CC, work on ground defence and TD defense...CC doesnt really have a ground game either, but its fuckin hard to get him there.

I wanna see hughes penn II also, i was furious with Penns loss to GSP, when Penn was on his way to the cage, i had goosebumps, havent been that excited for a phenominal fight in a long ass time. After round one, GSP was beat up, Penn looked good as new.....he just really needs to work on his gas tank so he would have fucked up GSP all three rounds!

Penn will whip Matt again.....cant wait for it.....unless GSP beats hughes first.....likely i think.

From what ive heard, Titos problem with Chuck was Chuck stuffing his takedown attempts and Tito is a ground guy, if Chuck gets on his back, i think Tito can take him, like Randy did in the first fight and Page was doin pretty good putting Chuck on his back too.

Im hyped for the next GP round as well as 61 (would have been nice of Ovareem made it to the next round though).
They really need to have guys from UFC fight Pride guys....Dana has no nuts though.

Yeah theres no doubt that McDonald has better hand combos, but McDonald relies alot on his hands & less on his legs from what I've seen. I think CC would own McDonals but thats just me.

Yeah I was insanely hyped to watch Penn vs Pierre and I gave the fight to Penn myself. I think Penn was tailor made to beat hughes although matt has improved alot since then. I by no means think Hughes is over-rated but he's definately not un-beatable. I am anxious for the Pierre Hughes rematch, but for some reason I think hughes will pull of another victory & penn will get his rematch. Yeah Penn was phenominal at 155 but at 170 he's chunky and "looks" out of shape. One think I did not like is when I read Ultimate Grappling mag and they did an interview on Penn. He said he was gonna take his champ title back from hughes then after that he was going to move up to 185 and take the belt from franklyn! I mean c'mon! w/e though Penns one of my favs in mma along with many others like Frank Shamrock who i hope we see more off.

Yeah I want to see the rest of the fight card for 61 and GP looks awsome also. Yeah Dana is a bitch and won't put his fighters on the line. No wonder tito, Penn, and Frank hate danas gutts and im sure many more.

 

[KD1]

Micheal McDonald? Ive seen him in 3-4 K1 fights and he has never impressed me like CroCop has. McDonald is fast and smooth with great athletic ability but he does not have the power CroCop has. CroCop would KO him in the MMA with those long round, maybe McDonald could outpoint him in K1 but I wouldent bet on him.

 

[gimma a break]

You guys know your shit, but I personally think Rich Franklin wants know part of Hughs, he even said it himself Hughs is just to fucking strong. Did any of you see the hughs frank trigg fight. Hughs got kicked in the ball and was choked out, this mo fo was able to break the hold and choke him out. This was one of the best fights I've seen in a comeback fashion. Hugh's eyes were rolling back in his head and he still came back. Unbelievable. Franklin is a bad ass though.

 

[gymratforlife]

So the fight is over and Gracie lost to hughes?WTF?

 

[darwinmcduck]

Ortiz is the better all around athlete. Shamrock is tricky and has a wider variety of skill. Its hard not to bet on Ortiz but shamrock wants a piece of him bad.

 

[gimma a break]

Shamrock is a great fighter, but it just seem he lost his edge, ortiz has to much skill, but ortiz didn't impress me in his last fight. I forget who it was against, but it went the full 3. He should of kicked his ass, got to give the edge to ortiz anyway