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keeping Vascularity and Cuts?
- Thread starter Xiodus
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"cut" is a very misconceived image IMO. People here think they can only attain a certain level of vascularity and "cuts" with a cutting cycle. BS. Try cutting naturally first... keep your glutamine/protein intake high and you shouldn't lose too much muscle... save the roids for when you want to gain weight. I know many a natural bodybuilder who is veiny as HELL.
After my last cycle I followed it up with some clomid and than just kept training as normal and kept up with my Ala and dail viamin intake and I kept pretty much all my gains I actually have had major improvement in size and strenght post cycle.It's all about how you train and it also has a little to do with what kind of As your using too.
Baby Gorilla
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Depends....
Vascularity and cuts show with low bodyfat. When you go back into bulking, some of that goes away as your bodyfat rises. Not all, but some.
I don't think you can maintain maximum vascularity and cuts while trying to gain more muscle. You have no choice but to up your calorie intake, and that means some fat goes back on.
Vascularity and cuts show with low bodyfat. When you go back into bulking, some of that goes away as your bodyfat rises. Not all, but some.
I don't think you can maintain maximum vascularity and cuts while trying to gain more muscle. You have no choice but to up your calorie intake, and that means some fat goes back on.
I've wondered about this myself. Ive done cutting cycles to decrease my BF% ,using compounds like DNP, clen, T3, bromo, ect...but none of them included AAS to preserve muscle or add increased vascularty, muscle hardness, ect. And I never lost that much muscle when doing so, and any muscle that I did lose during the non-AAS cutting cycle I quickly regained. So unless your preparing for a competition, or photo shoot, or something of that nature I've never understood the reasoning behind a "casual steroid user" doing a cutting cycle souly for the purpose of achieving the extra vascularity, muscle hardness, ect that the drugs give you . Ive done bulking cycles, and they make complete
sense to me. Depending how far past your genetic limit you are, and as long as you follow proper post cycle preperations correctly your able to maintain a good amount naturally, of what you achieved while cycling. Granted when preparing for a
competition , a BB's diet and training are so extreme that they need AAS so they dont wither away. But for the everyday BB dieting ,I dont feel the use of AAS in neccesary for the preservation of LBM. Atleast its never been for me. But then again everybodies different. But I still dont understand doing a cycle of AAS, just to increase vascularity, musclehardness, defenition, ect when the results are only going to last for a short while after you discontinue the use of AAS. Just my .2 cents. Im totally open to other peoples opinions on this.
soshesblowinme
sense to me. Depending how far past your genetic limit you are, and as long as you follow proper post cycle preperations correctly your able to maintain a good amount naturally, of what you achieved while cycling. Granted when preparing for a
competition , a BB's diet and training are so extreme that they need AAS so they dont wither away. But for the everyday BB dieting ,I dont feel the use of AAS in neccesary for the preservation of LBM. Atleast its never been for me. But then again everybodies different. But I still dont understand doing a cycle of AAS, just to increase vascularity, musclehardness, defenition, ect when the results are only going to last for a short while after you discontinue the use of AAS. Just my .2 cents. Im totally open to other peoples opinions on this.
soshesblowinme
Yes they should last, if you cycle off properly. Sorry I might not have understood your question. LBM cycles are the best cycles for keeping the gains that you've made.
What I was talking about is the muscle hardness, vascularity, increased defeniton that you have while on the drugs like winny, fina, anavar, masteron, primo , but loose soon after your cycle. Using these drugs or LBM gains is great. I just dont undertand when people use these cutting drugs *SOULY* for the purpose of hardening up,or increasing vascularity. Yes you'll look fucking awesome while on them ,but you will loose the increased muscle hardness, and vascularity that the drugs give as soon as you come off. So like I said, unless your preparing for a competition, or photo shoot or something like that, I dont see the point. Then again thats just my opinion. Some people get such a ood feeling from the effects these drugs have on there bodies, that its worth it to them. Even if they only look that way for 12 weeks. To each his own. Who am I to judge in the first place.
soshesblowinme
Vascularity is determined by genetics. Some people are veiny and some aren't. It depends on how close they are to the epidermous. I've always been on the lean side and barely have a visable have a vein in my bicep. Of course lower bf makes them easier to see, but again, it's genetic.
What roids do, especially orals, is increase blood pressure, contraction and glucose dispsal -- all leading to more pronouned vascularity. It isn't necessarily lower fat! I've gotton more vascular while maintaining the same bf when using winny or var.
Steroids are best used for gaining. Using them to preserve muscle while trying to lose weight is not the most advantageous method of making the most of what they do best. And yes, the results will be mostly cosmetic and temporary.
What roids do, especially orals, is increase blood pressure, contraction and glucose dispsal -- all leading to more pronouned vascularity. It isn't necessarily lower fat! I've gotton more vascular while maintaining the same bf when using winny or var.
Steroids are best used for gaining. Using them to preserve muscle while trying to lose weight is not the most advantageous method of making the most of what they do best. And yes, the results will be mostly cosmetic and temporary.
