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Keeping Test at 1000

brainacid

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I am curious what the vets have to say about this. Let say I want to keep my test at 1000. While making sure all other hormones are in check. Dont really know what Im asking...Just say I dont want to go natty again.
I want to cruise. Say 200 mg Test Cyp wk.

Thoughts, opinions, suggestions
Open for discussion.

28 yo 5'10" 232 10% bf
First Cycle
Superdrol 30 mg 4 wk
Test E 500 mg 14 wk
Tren A 50 mg 21 days/ 70 mg 21 days
Dbol 50 mg 4 wk
Finished with Tren and got maybe 3 more shots of Test to finish this. But I dont want to Pct even though I got it all in line if I want to.

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I dont know my natty levels before I began the gear. I read that if my levels werent enough I would lose muscle. That a certain level of Test is required to keep gains. I believe Bryan Haycock said on is HST website.

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No..that 1186 level was while on cycle. Sorry for the misunderstanding

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I agree with Steve here. With a proper PCT, recovery can go fairly smooth and you will retain the largest portion of your gains. Why set yourself up for TRT and be forced to pin the rest of your life if you don't need to? It may not seem like a big deal now, but it gets old after doing it after a while for some guys and they end up regretting their decision.
 
So you want to be permanently dependent on pharma injections for the next 50 years instead of seeing where you would be naturally, because you might lose some gains? You might do fine naturally.
 
Rest of my life is ok. Will it get old...not really. Im just want some advice about this kind of lifestyle. I would like to retain because I want to enter a show soon. I dont want to lose any muscle. Thanks for the replies and concern. I really appreciate it. :)

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brainacid said:
Rest of my life is ok. Will it get old...not really. Im just want some advice about this kind of lifestyle. I would like to retain because I want to enter a show soon. I dont want to lose any muscle. Thanks for the replies and concern. I really appreciate it. :)

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If you think so. It will get old trust me!
 
Yeah Ive been addictid to massiveness since I first saw Arnold. Let me share where I want to be at.. 50" chest, 46 now,
19" calves, 17.5,
19" arms, 17,
30" Quads, 27.5.

You know how some people are obese by abusing sugar and fast foods. Well I want to be massive by eating good, training and TESTOSTERONE. :)

So I steve you say I could keep cycling. Wait 3 months loose lil mass and the blow back up. 2 fwd 1 bk...but I prefer to stay on. So with that said...Im open to suggestions and discussion
Thanks for all the replies guys

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brainacid said:
No..that 1186 level was while on cycle. Sorry for the misunderstanding
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Your levels were 1186 while on cycle....the cycle you listed above with 500mg test???
 
HRT at your age just makes no sense, look at me in my profile i'm 60 No HRT because i did everything the right way!
 
brainacid said:
Yeah..is my gear shit??? 1186 with 500 mg of Test E
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It seems pretty darn low for 500mg test.

My last bloodwork had me at 1075 serum test on 200mg week. Blood drawn 5 days after last injection.
 
I knew my gear was shady. Then most my gains came from Tren and Beastdrol

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Wow HRT AT 28...just do.cycles for 20 more years..what if your source goes away ..they do...and even if scripted doctors change their minds..or move away ...seems illogical but do what you want...you 6 and 235lbs..your big as hell!...look up body dysmorphic disorder

All information is for entertainment purpose only and is not valid for real life use in any manner..Gear 63 is a role playing web based persona!
 
Still on cycle...just considering hrt. I just want to stay big. Dont the Pros do it? LikeI said I got all my PCT inline. Just afraid of getting smaller. Then everyone at work sill make fun of me. I know f** k what ppl say but I really like my look right now.

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The right way to cycle? Big, small,big,small....that doesn't appeal to me. I want big, big, big, huge, happy.

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Can it be done? And where do I go for advice cuz apparently no one has answered the threads main concern --keeping test 1000.

It seems like all my threads get side tracked by others replies and dont focus on my shit. Being selfish right now...Come on dudes.
I dont trust any other forums, so far the service is spectacular but lets get back to my question.


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brainacid said:
Still on cycle...just considering hrt. I just want to stay big. Dont the Pros do it? LikeI said I got all my PCT inline. Just afraid of getting smaller. Then everyone at work sill make fun of me. I know f** k what ppl say but I really like my look right now.

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well i think before you turn pro you need to gain more experience. you aren't even done with cycle 1.. come on man get real here. its like if i go bowling and score a perfect game and decide i want to quit my job and go be a bowler for a living, or play poker and have a big night where i hit the nuts every other hand and decide i want to be a poker pro.

also if you think the pro's got to where they are at just from HRT you are fooling yourself.

they are on insulin, GH, tons of drugs, stims, and a shitload of hormones + they have enough sponsorship/money to do it full time and also a little thing called genetics.

you say you don't want to take a step back, but in fitness you better learn you HAVE TO take steps back. what happens if you get injured? pull something? or have something happen in your life where you have to take time away from the gym? these are reality things. a buddy of mine is an ironman, been training since he was 8 years old. he was playing flag football and on a freak play catching an INT he has his leg broken. has to take 6 months off.. shit like that is gonna happen so you better accept reality that you won't always make nonstop gains every day

as far as 'can you keep levels right at 1000'.. if you run a small amount of test yeah you can keep things around that mark.. just gonna need to run bloods to mold it.
 
Thanks for the reality check dude...i get dellusional sometimes

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stevesmi said:
well i think before you turn pro you need to gain more experience. you aren't even done with cycle 1.. come on man get real here. its like if i go bowling and score a perfect game and decide i want to quit my job and go be a bowler for a living, or play poker and have a big night where i hit the nuts every other hand and decide i want to be a poker pro.

also if you think the pro's got to where they are at just from HRT you are fooling yourself.

they are on insulin, GH, tons of drugs, stims, and a shitload of hormones + they have enough sponsorship/money to do it full time and also a little thing called genetics.

you say you don't want to take a step back, but in fitness you better learn you HAVE TO take steps back. what happens if you get injured? pull something? or have something happen in your life where you have to take time away from the gym? these are reality things. a buddy of mine is an ironman, been training since he was 8 years old. he was playing flag football and on a freak play catching an INT he has his leg broken. has to take 6 months off.. shit like that is gonna happen so you better accept reality that you won't always make nonstop gains every day

as far as 'can you keep levels right at 1000'.. if you run a small amount of test yeah you can keep things around that mark.. just gonna need to run bloods to mold it.
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+1

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brainacid said:
I dont know my natty levels before I began the gear. I read that if my levels werent enough I would lose muscle. That a certain level of Test is required to keep gains. I believe Bryan Haycock said on is HST website.

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That's only if you are above what your training and body can support in homeostasis. That's why people choose to come off, so you can push your plateau higher and remain there indefinitely. Eventually you will have to get on HRT to maintain a certain muscle mass, but at 28 your far from it.
 
Truth is man there are so many goo natty supplements that you can maintain most of your gains rather easily . Those and sarms I mean its a lot different than it used to be don't put yourself up for HRT at this age


Ride it like you stole it!!
 
digit0x said:
That's only if you are above what your training and body can support in homeostasis. That's why people choose to come off, so you can push your plateau higher and remain there indefinitely. Eventually you will have to get on HRT to maintain a certain muscle mass, but at 28 your far from it.
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I was thinking something similar. If you want to be the biggest and strongest you can be, not just right now, but in 10 years and beyond, what is the best way to do it? Cycling or staying on? I'm thinking that cycling may be as good or better, and offer you the extra benefits of better overall health, cardiovascular health, and less chance of injury.
 
Then Im a real fucked individual for not wanting to step back into a lower weight. I just truly believe my body wont support this mass.

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