Keeping gains Long term?? Have an idea that could possibly help us all.....

[Shoot Me Up]

I just wanted to let you all know that I like to just do one hard cycle a year in which i have about a year 1/2 ago. I have made incredible gains and have found that if you dont get back on steroids after you been off for as long as you been on, you will eventually lose everything and go back to your original self. It is effective to cycle for 8 weeks, go off 8 weeks then get back on, or however you do it as you will lose some gains and make more again (have done this 3 years ago). Anyways here is what I am thinking of doing........

This coming April i plan on hitting a hard cycle of Prop/Fina/EQ/Winny for 12 weeks then coming off with clomids

about 12 weeks later after my last shots from last cycle of week 12 i want to start a cycle not to make gains necessarily but to help keep me from going back to my original self......

I am thinking of taking just 400mgs of Primobolan Depot for 12 weeks then getting off for 12 weeks, and keep repeating this process till next year comes along again and then hitting it hard???

What do you guys think of this idea?

 

[Testoterone Tom]

It's an interesting idea, I would like to think a longer lasting ester would work better. I want to take HGH, anavar and sustanon for the rest of my life. Now, THAT would prevent wasting!

 

[Shoot Me Up]

very true, but please keep in mind that i want to live a very long life also....i dont want to end being the juice head that has heart,liver,kidney problems in my 30's, 40's or 50's.........

 

[Aussie Juga naught]

You don't make much sense, I dont see why you cant keep alot of the gains you made on steroids if you eat right train right and dont get lazy in the gym.

 

[Mike P.T.]

Everyone is different. Personally I don't agree coming from experience. Last year I did 2 cycles. One for about 14 weeks and the other for 9. Took only a 5 week break in between the 2 cycles. After that I took a whole 6 month break off from juice at which point I actually got bigger and stronger just from eating alot more and resting more. It all depends on the individual and how fast they recover. How they eat and train and how much rest they get. Also how much anabolics they were taking. Obviously the more you take the harder it will be for your body to maintain once off.

 

[Shoot Me Up]

very interesting Mike P.T., What is your diet like now?

 

[Shoot Me Up]

bump

 

[rickw]

sounds interesting, keep us up to date

 

[Silent Method]

What do you guys think of this idea?

What do I think? I think 8 months after my first cycle (which was a mere 6 weeks of sust) I kept almost all of my gains (even though I was forced to stay out of the gym for a little more than a two month period within the 8 months).

I think:

1. everyone is different, some have a smother transition off gear than others

2. not everyone trains and eats right, on or off cycle

3. many do not take into account water weight gain on and water weight loss after cycle

4. many do not take into account weight associated with the increased calories most consume on, but not off cycle

5. unless your a competetor using steroids as an integral part of your physique and training, muscle that will not stay on your frame without the use of drugs is worthless.

 

[serge]

I just wanted to let you all know that I like to just do one hard cycle a year in which i have about a year 1/2 ago. I have made incredible gains and have found that if you dont get back on steroids after you been off for as long as you been on, you will eventually lose everything and go back to your original self. It is effective to cycle for 8 weeks, go off 8 weeks then get back on, or however you do it as you will lose some gains and make more again (have done this 3 years ago). Anyways here is what I am thinking of doing........

This coming April i plan on hitting a hard cycle of Prop/Fina/EQ/Winny for 12 weeks then coming off with clomids

about 12 weeks later after my last shots from last cycle of week 12 i want to start a cycle not to make gains necessarily but to help keep me from going back to my original self......

I am thinking of taking just 400mgs of Primobolan Depot for 12 weeks then getting off for 12 weeks, and keep repeating this process till next year comes along again and then hitting it hard???

What do you guys think of this idea?

so essentially you will be running high cost gear, not making progress, just maintaining. HERE IS A BETTER ONE..........

why not set a goal, do your cycles to overshoot that goal by solid 10-15lb and then go off forever? this way you will never have to go back on, and will maintain your body naturally