Keep loosing hair...PLEASE help

[duke of earl]

STOP STRESSING OUT, it makes things a lot worse

totally agree with this - make a (hairloss) plan & see it through - at least you'll know you're doing everthing you can about it & that itself should make you feel alot better - The most hair I've lost in the last 10 years was when I was really stressed!

I only started dutasteride just before my current cycle, so I'm not sure about libido / ejaculate vol etc....hard to tell - but I did have libido probs with finasteride (& no AS) which I've been on for a good 5 years - I also had reduced ejaculate vol.

My regime (on & off AS) is
0.5 Dutasteride ED
nizoral shampoo EOD
topical spironolactone cream (on potential trouble spots) before bed

(I've also got some minoxidil / azeleic acid mix, but don't wanna use it yet)

This has kept my hairline pretty stable

 

[21gun]

If it is in your genes to lose hair, juicin' will only speed up the process. While on gear your body produces more DHT, which is abundant in the scalp...which leads to hair loss. It is kind of like trying to put on 50 pounds of muscle and get shredded at the same time.

 

[LoneTree]

I had the same problem. I did my first cycle with only Deca 200/week (did gain 8-10 pounds in 11 weeks, so am satisfied). At 10-11 week, hair loss started. I did make the mistake of not using anything for post-cycle crash (it wouldn't have helped with hairloss anyway).
I do have genetic predisposition for male-pattern hair loss (my father and my brother has similar hairloss). It is caused by androgens (if someone gets castrated at age 21, he wouldn't get hairloss inspite of genetic predisposition).

This is from soemone who knows what he is talking about:

I have been using Proscar (finesteride 5mg, Propecia is 1mg) since 4-5 weeks, now it seems the hair loss is slowing down. It specifically works on scalp, prostate and liver androgen receptors. I don't know if it had any effect on muscle receptors (and I have done extensive research). Next time I would start it before I start my cycle.

My concern with Detusteride is that it is not selective. Does it also block muscle androgen receptors too? (You don't want to block muscle DHT receptors).

DON'T waste your money on ANY shampoos. Nizoral is a drug for only fungus or dandruff treatment. It has NOTHING to do with hair growth.

Rogain 5% directly stimulates hair follicle growth. But it is less effective when used topically (it is actually a very powerful medicine for high blood pressure), and only works on vertex (top of head) and not on receding hairlines in the front.

 

[duke of earl]

DON'T waste your money on ANY shampoos. Nizoral is a drug for only fungus or dandruff treatment. It has NOTHING to do with hair growth.

it does work & this reasoning is bad - propecia was originally intended for prostate enlargement, and minoxidil for angina - they work!

search some info on ketocanazole.....

 

[kevin6]

it does work & this reasoning is bad - propecia was originally intended for prostate enlargement, and minoxidil for angina - they work!

search some info on ketocanazole.....

keto DOES help dec. inflamm in scalp.

here is the ultimate hair stack w/ minox, dutas, propecia, azelaic, retin-a, spiro, copper peptides, ALL of which have been proven to help:

Morning:
-revivogen/polysorbate 80 shampoo rotation (copper peptides proven to
increase circulation, possibly hairgrowth and poly 80 decreases
inflammation assoc. w/ MPB)
-Xandrox 5% (crown and hairline)
-wait 10 minutes, then apply 5% Spironolactone (crown and hairline)
-1.25 mg proscar

Afternoon:
-Rogaine extra strength
-wait 10 minutes, then apply Retin-A 0.025% (crown and hairline)
-wait 10 minutes, then apply 5% Spironolactone (crown and hairline)
-1.25 mg proscar
-Avodart .5 mg

Night:
-shampoo w/ Ketoconazole 2% (only every third day)
-wait until hair dries, then apply Xandrox15 (crown and hairline)
-wait 10 minutes, then apply Retin-A 0.025% (crown and hairline)
-wait 10 minutes, then apply 5% Spironolactone (crown and hairline)
-Avodart .5 mg

i've lost 5 or 6 hairs in 8 months on this stack.

j/k

 

[LoneTree]

You people think that you know more than what the best of medical science has to offer?

May be you should read my post more carefully. Every single point that I have mentioned has been proven by multiple clinical studies. It is not my reasoning, it is medical science.

Inflammation and loss of circulation has never, ever been shown to be cause of 'MALE PATTERN BALDNESS'. It is caused by our natural androgens. When you take excess androgens, it causes excessive hair loss.

Nor does dandruff. Infections, and some severe circulatory diseases, may cause what is called ALOPECIA AREATA (because it happens in areas affected by disease).

Rogain and Proscar/Propecia are the only known medicines proven clinically effective. If you want to waste your money on health-food store stuff and shampoos, that is your prerogative. There is a guy running half-hour informercials touting his book that claims that MS is caused by dietary additives and easily curable (and many other equally absurd claims). Wow. May be we should just buy his book and save billions of $ spent on MS care every year and save thousands of lives per year. These informercials are not cheap. How many books is he selling? You know what they say about suckers.

Nizoral or ketoconazole is an antifungal medicine used for ring worms, athlete's foot, yeast infection, fungus nail infection, AND IS VERY EXPENSIVE. I wish it worked against hairloss. I have brought it many times from a country that I visit and is much cheaper there.

I am new to AAS, but not to hair loss. I have been losing hair since last 10 years.

This is my last post on this topic.

 

[The_Chemist]

So finastride is just a waste of money?

No. Finasteride (proscar/propecia) is the only effective drug that has been available to the public, until last year when dutasteride was introduced. Both work via the same mechanism(DHT conversion blocking), however Dutasteride has shown in studies to be slightly more effective. It is not yet available in many countries, so finasteride is probably the best bet for most people.

I currently live in canada, so finasteride at 1.25mg/day + nizorol is all I use. THe only reason i use nizorol is because its the same price as regulart shampoo here in canada.

Hope this helps?

 

[poantrex]

You people think that you know more than what the best of medical science has to offer?

May be you should read my post more carefully. Every single point that I have mentioned has been proven by multiple clinical studies. It is not my reasoning, it is medical science.

Inflammation and loss of circulation has never, ever been shown to be cause of 'MALE PATTERN BALDNESS'. It is caused by our natural androgens. When you take excess androgens, it causes excessive hair loss.

Nor does dandruff. Infections, and some severe circulatory diseases, may cause what is called ALOPECIA AREATA (because it happens in areas affected by disease).

Rogain and Proscar/Propecia are the only known medicines proven clinically effective. If you want to waste your money on health-food store stuff and shampoos, that is your prerogative. There is a guy running half-hour informercials touting his book that claims that MS is caused by dietary additives and easily curable (and many other equally absurd claims). Wow. May be we should just buy his book and save billions of $ spent on MS care every year and save thousands of lives per year. These informercials are not cheap. How many books is he selling? You know what they say about suckers.

Nizoral or ketoconazole is an antifungal medicine used for ring worms, athlete's foot, yeast infection, fungus nail infection, AND IS VERY EXPENSIVE. I wish it worked against hairloss. I have brought it many times from a country that I visit and is much cheaper there.

I am new to AAS, but not to hair loss. I have been losing hair since last 10 years.

This is my last post on this topic.

You are wrong about Nizoral. It does possess ANTI ANDROGEN properties in addition to being an anti fungal. Look it up.

 

[The Greatest]

First if you wear spiro during the day you will have zero friends, it smells like shit.

All you need it 15 percent minox with al/acid (put this on at night)

5 percent spiro (put this on at night, 5 mins after minox)

durring the day get some generic 5 percent minox

and always take proscar.

simple and fairly cheap

 

[kevin6]

You people think that you know more than what the best of medical science has to offer?

May be you should read my post more carefully. Every single point that I have mentioned has been proven by multiple clinical studies. It is not my reasoning, it is medical science.

Inflammation and loss of circulation has never, ever been shown to be cause of 'MALE PATTERN BALDNESS'. It is caused by our natural androgens. When you take excess androgens, it causes excessive hair loss.

Nor does dandruff. Infections, and some severe circulatory diseases, may cause what is called ALOPECIA AREATA (because it happens in areas affected by disease).

Rogain and Proscar/Propecia are the only known medicines proven clinically effective. If you want to waste your money on health-food store stuff and shampoos, that is your prerogative. There is a guy running half-hour informercials touting his book that claims that MS is caused by dietary additives and easily curable (and many other equally absurd claims). Wow. May be we should just buy his book and save billions of $ spent on MS care every year and save thousands of lives per year. These informercials are not cheap. How many books is he selling? You know what they say about suckers.

Nizoral or ketoconazole is an antifungal medicine used for ring worms, athlete's foot, yeast infection, fungus nail infection, AND IS VERY EXPENSIVE. I wish it worked against hairloss. I have brought it many times from a country that I visit and is much cheaper there.

I am new to AAS, but not to hair loss. I have been losing hair since last 10 years.

This is my last post on this topic.

you're correct poantrex--keto has ANTI ANDROGEN properties.

dogoftheday--calm your ass down. 10 posts and this is your "last post on this topic." wow. the loss of your knowledge will be insufferable.