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Never tried clen and I’m not a fan of it bc of the sides especially the stress it can cause on the heart. Rather see you try something like GW or use SARMs if you’re trying to cut. I also heard about a peptide called AOD9604 recently that you might consider looking into.
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pretty simple here... DONT DO IT.. dont add clen, dont use clen period.. watch my video here so you can understand what all comes along with it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU8iOh4Z-fQ&t=164s
I would stick to 20mcg clenbuterol max
and add some cardarine gw 20mgs ed
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I use Clen, also use Tren, both of which are extremely hard on the system. You have to take support with these products or you will have problems. Well you will probably have some sides one way or the other, but that is just the nature of these drugs and you have to decide what you can live with.
Generally for Clen as a male you start at 20 or 40 mcg. You do that for a week to see how you tolerate it then you jump up to 40 or 80 mcg depending on where you started. As a guy from what I have read 160 mcg is the max you can go to, but I started cramping like crazy at 120 mcg and had to back off to 80 mcg and that is a level my body seems to deal with well.
While on Clen though you need 2 other things. First you need to supplement potassium. Clen will cause cramping at some point and potassium and water helps prevent that. Also take a multi vitamin, as an old guy I use one a day, but better ones probably exist.
Just be warned, by using Clen you are stepping into the abusive side of the steroid / body building supplement world. These are not things most people that are not competing would normally even consider taking.
Generally for Clen as a male you start at 20 or 40 mcg. You do that for a week to see how you tolerate it then you jump up to 40 or 80 mcg depending on where you started. As a guy from what I have read 160 mcg is the max you can go to, but I started cramping like crazy at 120 mcg and had to back off to 80 mcg and that is a level my body seems to deal with well.
While on Clen though you need 2 other things. First you need to supplement potassium. Clen will cause cramping at some point and potassium and water helps prevent that. Also take a multi vitamin, as an old guy I use one a day, but better ones probably exist.
Just be warned, by using Clen you are stepping into the abusive side of the steroid / body building supplement world. These are not things most people that are not competing would normally even consider taking.
bro try tren
I would highly recommend not using clenbuterol as it is quite dangerous. I would substitute with GW50156 and SR9009
Quite dangerous..?
But substituting it with 2 other drugs is not?
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I'm not a big fan of SARMs myself as no documented approved human trials have been done, but in this case as an actual user of Clen, for most people the sides that come with clen and risks associated are not worth it. Most should probably go with GW and SR instead as known sides of those two combined are less than half of what Clen will do.
We know the sides of clen, and most are quite manageble if done correctly.
We don't know the long term sides of most sarms. But somehow in here sarms are promoted as "The Healthy Choice"...
People do 3-4-5 compounds in a cycle, but thinking a bit of clen will kill them. Just don't overdo it as with anything else. Everything comes with a risk.
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mg or mcg?
Clen is trash!
you should not use clen.......
We do alot of shit we should not do.
How about explaining why though?
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clenbuterol causes heart damage
there are multiple studies about this
thats why its banned in the USA
go research more
Cardarine causes cancer, studies on that aswell.
That's why it's banned and not being done more research on.
Anything we do come with a risk and potential side effect.
It's all about the dosage and risk tolerance/precautions.
Oh btw, you seem to have forgotten to elaborate why you advice someone on TRT should do a PCT with Nolvadex.
Same as why someone doing 100mg test and 400mg mast would need an AI.
Go research more
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If you actually backed up or reasoned anything you said it'd be interesting, honestly. But just parroting stuff and say "go research more" when someone ask your reasoning is useless.
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PCT with nolvadex and HCG actually you didnt do any research thats why I was ignoring you
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar...steroid induced impairment of spermatogenesis.
hCG is a safe and efficacious alternative or adjunct to TRT in men desiring to preserve fertility while treating their hypogonadism. hCG can also be used help restore spermatogenesis in men hypogonadal hypogonadism or steroid induced impairment of spermatogenesis.
If you are looking to enhance fat loss, add in Cardarine and N2Slin instead of clen. Clen is some nasty stuff and super harsh on your heart.
Not much use referring to research when you don't understand it, or it's use in the situation.
I'm also aware of how hcg is used during TRT/cycle, or in a PCT or for someone COMING OFF TRT to try have kids.
A 56 year old, that "HELL NO!"-doesn't wanna have kids, do not plan on coming off TRT. He should preserve his fertility for what reason? Shoot bigger loads, fill out the big 'ol nutsack a bit? -Sure... But that has nothing to do with a PCT.
You also suggested Nolvadex. I could think of no reason, and was interested to hear out yours. If you had a reason to back it with, I'd either learn something or disagree with you. But so far you've had none.
Then there's suggesting someone doing 100mg Test and 400mg Mast take an AI, unless they're extremely prone to aromatisation of testosterone I'd see no reason for that, quite the oposite really.
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