Just started working out... need some help

[thelion2005]

6'2" 185lbs is big? i thought that is still on the thinner side.

Thise of you who know me here understand that my advice is based on the principles of the classic physique.

Thank you for the k I received for my response to this post.

My reply to the original post was based on the goals of:
- losing fat and stored water
- shaping and building the man's total body for a more classic muscular appearance.

These goals seemed more in line with his desires to look better as a man and to advance towards a "body builder's" look.

Over 6 feet tall at even 185 is a large man. The most he should weigh would be 215 and he can easily gain that over the next year to 18 months while losing the fat and water.

Getting "big and strong" with a few basic lifts did not seem in line
with what he wanted, though such a routine would produce some fine benefits.

He will gain measureable size, lose fat and stored water, become stronger and look much more athletic with a full range of exercises.

Should he not want to do that ... fine. It is his business.

 

[silver_shadow]

Thise of you who know me here understand that my advice is based on the principles of the classic physique.

Thank you for the k I received for my response to this post.

My reply to the original post was based on the goals of:
- losing fat and stored water
- shaping and building the man's total body for a more classic muscular appearance.

These goals seemed more in line with his desires to look better as a man and to advance towards a "body builder's" look.

Over 6 feet tall at even 185 is a large man. The most he should weigh would be 215 and he can easily gain that over the next year to 18 months while losing the fat and water.

Getting "big and strong" with a few basic lifts did not seem in line
with what he wanted, though such a routine would produce some fine benefits.

He will gain measureable size, lose fat and stored water, become stronger and look much more athletic with a full range of exercises.

Should he not want to do that ... fine. It is his business.

bro, i do know ur pretty knowledgable... don't get me wrong.

just wanted u to elaborate on the original post, which u've done

 

[thotho]

oh sorry

New stats

I'm 27, 6'1, 192lbs, 21% bf

weight went up 7lbs and fat went up 1% maybe b3ecause I've been eating so much trying to get over 3000 calories.

I don't have any pics to post but I generally have a wide frame, put on mass very quickly, lose fat very slowly (which sucks). I basically want to be around the same size, maybe a tiny bit bigger but not much, I want to trim the body fat down but nothing under 8% or to the point where I almost have abs but not exactly... just want to have a flat stomach and be in decent shape. I play a ton of golf so i want to stay very flexable so can't get to bulky. What should I do?

I'm thinking of returning the meal replacement shake since it doesn't look like I will need it... or do I?

should I still go ahead and bulk up and then cut? or should I just start now? my bench press is really weak right now. 135lbs 3x8

shoulders - I press 150 3x8
squats - 300lbs 3x8 so gaining some strength in my cehst would be nice, easily th worst part of my body and weakest

 

[carlsuen]

Thise of you who know me here understand that my advice is based on the principles of the classic physique.

Thank you for the k I received for my response to this post.

My reply to the original post was based on the goals of:
- losing fat and stored water
- shaping and building the man's total body for a more classic muscular appearance.

These goals seemed more in line with his desires to look better as a man and to advance towards a "body builder's" look.

Over 6 feet tall at even 185 is a large man. The most he should weigh would be 215 and he can easily gain that over the next year to 18 months while losing the fat and water.

Getting "big and strong" with a few basic lifts did not seem in line
with what he wanted, though such a routine would produce some fine benefits.

He will gain measureable size, lose fat and stored water, become stronger and look much more athletic with a full range of exercises.

Should he not want to do that ... fine. It is his business.

i totally respect your post.. but if i was to do all those exercises(now that i found and love only compound) i would quit lifting.. hehe.. no offence..

 

[silver_shadow]

oh sorry

New stats

I'm 27, 6'1, 192lbs, 21% bf

weight went up 7lbs and fat went up 1% maybe b3ecause I've been eating so much trying to get over 3000 calories.

I don't have any pics to post but I generally have a wide frame, put on mass very quickly, lose fat very slowly (which sucks). I basically want to be around the same size, maybe a tiny bit bigger but not much, I want to trim the body fat down but nothing under 8% or to the point where I almost have abs but not exactly... just want to have a flat stomach and be in decent shape. I play a ton of golf so i want to stay very flexable so can't get to bulky. What should I do?

I'm thinking of returning the meal replacement shake since it doesn't look like I will need it... or do I?

should I still go ahead and bulk up and then cut? or should I just start now? my bench press is really weak right now. 135lbs 3x8

shoulders - I press 150 3x8
squats - 300lbs 3x8 so gaining some strength in my cehst would be nice, easily th worst part of my body and weakest

maybe u could post up the break up of your diet... chances are, u'd have to do some brainstorming there...