just saw LOTR3

[AAP]

decent movie... I loved the battle scenes, but I could have fast forwarded it through all the parts about frodo. All he did was cry and fall down in each of his scenes.

Gandalph - (didja see those wrestling boots he was wearing under that robe?) Ok... now seriously, why didn' t he use his magic more? I mean, he is a wizard right? He used that ray of light trick to scare off the dragon riders when they were chasing the army across the field. Why didn't he do that trick later when they were attacking the castle? He was pretty sissy for a wizard. Not much help at all.

Someone tell me what the "message" was that the red haired dude was going to deliver by riding across the field with about 30 men to face a city full of enemies? WTF was he thinking? Why did he do this?

I was disappointed with the big spider thing... but hey, if it worked for Harry Potter....

Did those big elephants on the battlefield remind you of the AT-ATs from Empire Strikes Back? And just how could a measley little sword cut through their thick hide at the ankle and cripple them?

Gollum - ok... now explain this... when he killed his friend and got the ring... why did it make all his hair fall out and turn him ugly? What was he going to do with the ring himself? And I was really glad to see him fall. I hated him from the very beginning in LOTR2. And the people raving about what a great performance he turned in (CGI), man he was dreadfully ugly.

 

[GodOfThunder]

I too wondered why Gandalf didn't wow everyone with magic
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[Deleted member 33117]

Gollum's hair fell out because he was over 500 years old, and the ring also twisted his physical form. You were suppost to have a dislike of Gollum, even if you did pity him. Even in the novels he comes across as untrustworthy, and tainted by the one ring's evil. His plan for the ring? To have his prescious back. It completely dominated his mind, and was his driving obsession. He just wanted to have it back. That is part of the ring's magic. Everyone wants it eventually, and will do anything to get it.

The man with the red hair was not ridding to deliver a message, he was riding to please his father, and prove that he was his brother's equal, who had never let that city fall to an enemy. He was going to try to reclaim it, depsite the odds against him.

Gandolf and his magic? For one, magic in the Middle Earth fantasy world is more subtle than magic in other fantasy literature settings. Two, a truely powerful wizard always seeks to use his magic less, because he realizes the dangers of using such great and unstable power. Also, the greater the enegery harnessed (more powerful magics utilize more energy), the greater the stress placed on the wielder. This is basic fantasy stuff, I read over 500 fantasy novels by the time I was 16. A great wizard is a man of knowledge in any high fantas liturature. His greatest strength is his knowledge. Gandolf knew almost everything. Always knew what they must do. He was the one who convinced them to even undertake the quest to destroy the ring. He was immensly helpful, because without him they were totally blind to what was going on.

Any other questions?

 

[Tiervexx]

Gollum's hair fell out because he was over 500 years old, and the ring also twisted his physical form. You were suppost to have a dislike of Gollum, even if you did pity him. Even in the novels he comes across as untrustworthy, and tainted by the one ring's evil. His plan for the ring? To have his prescious back. It completely dominated his mind, and was his driving obsession. He just wanted to have it back. That is part of the ring's magic. Everyone wants it eventually, and will do anything to get it.

The man with the red hair was not ridding to deliver a message, he was riding to please his father, and prove that he was his brother's equal, who had never let that city fall to an enemy. He was going to try to reclaim it, depsite the odds against him.

Gandolf and his magic? For one, magic in the Middle Earth fantasy world is more subtle than magic in other fantasy literature settings. Two, a truely powerful wizard always seeks to use his magic less, because he realizes the dangers of using such great and unstable power. Also, the greater the enegery harnessed (more powerful magics utilize more energy), the greater the stress placed on the wielder. This is basic fantasy stuff, I read over 500 fantasy novels by the time I was 16. A great wizard is a man of knowledge in any high fantas liturature. His greatest strength is his knowledge. Gandolf knew almost everything. Always knew what they must do. He was the one who convinced them to even undertake the quest to destroy the ring. He was immensly helpful, because without him they were totally blind to what was going on.

Any other questions?

Good explainations.

 

[Wynn]

What he said.

 

[Smurfy]

BBF - you hit the nail on the head on all points. and LOTR2 was better IMO

 

[crimson coal]

I loved all three of the movies and read the books many times when I was young. The only thing that still gets me and seems a little hard to believe is when Frodo gets pierced in the stomach by shilobe (Spider) he's is able to move on..I know the poison wore off (Should have liquified his insides) but even though he still has a huge spear mark in his stomach from that stinger. Don't think he could move on for awhile after that but hey, It's just Fantasy I guess.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

cc, I was thinking the same thing, because spider venom's purpose is to liquidify their prey so they can suck the insides out, because this is how they eat. Again, it was fantasy, so the venom was probably different. You are right about his wound stopping him from moving though. Perhaps the orcs used some manner of magic to heal him (did it mention this in the books, I haven't read them since I was 12), so that he would be in good health when they started interigating him for information? Again, you are right, it is fantasy, although good fantay always strives to maintian the illusion of believability.

 

[Wynn]

I loved all three of the movies and read the books many times when I was young. The only thing that still gets me and seems a little hard to believe is when Frodo gets pierced in the stomach by shilobe (Spider) he's is able to move on..I know the poison wore off (Should have liquified his insides) but even though he still has a huge spear mark in his stomach from that stinger. Don't think he could move on for awhile after that but hey, It's just Fantasy I guess.

I thought about that myself. Real spiders envenom their prey through their fangs. Tolkien may have wanted Shelob to seem part wasp to give Frodo a chance.

 

[egotistical_player]

Best trilogy. Anyone feel sad during any parts?