Just for shits and giggles.

[hardbody_jr]

What do you think about taking test (900 mg wk, 300 EOD) for 5 weeks on and five off for 6-8 months. Is this just simply retarted?
I have a friend who does these short cycles and every other cycle he stacks it with Eq and Winny(clomid, nolva). In the past 6 mo he's gone from a twig, 172, to a whopping 231. I can't get over the growth on this fucker. I must also include that one time he was 230 or so but had to stop b/c of an injury. Do you think that is was the juice and the muscle memory or do you think that the 5 on 5 off worked good?

Later Jr.

 

[MikeyLikesJuice]

5 on 5 off is good for some people. Realize some people stop gains around week five or earlier, so shorter cycles are more recommended for them. It is also good to switch your juices like he is doing. Some people can keep gaining for ten weeks average around 2-3 pds a week. You do a cycle see if you stop gaining at a certain point and run cycles like that. Your friend at 5weeks on then 5 weeks off is much safer and you feel like you are back on the juice much quicker rather then waiting a whole nother 10 weeks. I know some who do 3 on 3 off that get good results.

 

[surehands2]

hardboy jr you think you can get a break down on the whole thign he does with the juice dosgs and clomid and nov im very interested in hearing this

 

[badazzwhitedude]

If you do this, be sure to use short acting steroids like Test Prop, Winny, Anavar, D-bol, Fina, etc. Using stuff like Test Cyp, Sust or Deca will defeat the purpose of this and it will be as if you are on the whole time as it takes a few weeks for these steroids to clear the system.

 

[surehands2]

does anyone know of a test prop that doesnt kill your ass ?

 

[Nathan]

Yep. I prefer shorter cycles. I'm one of those that gain a lot in rthe beginning but slow down towards the end. HOWEVER, that can be useful as you can bulk for the first few weeks, then it turn it around and start cutting.

 

[hardbody_jr]

bad ass white dude,

Thanks for the info. Broken down huh, I think he's doing 100mg winny ED and 500mg EQ. As far clomid and nolva, he takes the nolva when symptoms occur and the Clomid therapy comes in at week 6. 3 the first day and one eod for 10 days. I think!!!!!

Later Jr.

 

[badazzwhitedude]

bad ass white dude,

Thanks for the info. Broken down huh, I think he's doing 100mg winny ED and 500mg EQ. As far clomid and nolva, he takes the nolva when symptoms occur and the Clomid therapy comes in at week 6. 3 the first day and one eod for 10 days. I think!!!!!

Later Jr.

Sure man. But your friend is taking EQ? EQ is not for short cycles, because it does have a long half-life. Some good stuff though. I am on it (although I do 8-10 week cycles) and it has made me fairly strong without much weight gain at all.

 

[mtgmt4]

hard jr

its the swallows that go to capistrano, salmon swim upstream, i dont think salmon are in Italy, could be wrong on that though.......

 

[~HOUNDOG~]

does anyone know of a test prop that doesnt kill your ass ?

The mightiest of all props,VIRAMONE!