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Just competed for the first time and I'm pumped to....

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Hey guys, worked my ass off and did my first show and came second...
Some of these guys were on a lot of stuff...like I mean a lot..cause I spoke with em.
All I did was test at 400mg/week and masteron 400mg/week for the last few weeks....this cycle is NOOTHING compared to what my competitors were running...

This time I am more pumped to have a clean off season to gain as much as I can and come in realllllly hard and lean for the provincials in the summer...so I need you guys to help me lay out a cycle here...
I plan on taking the next weeks off as I start PCT but I'm thinking
Pct for 4 weeks and lay off til January

January - march 12 weeks
Test e 600 mg/week 1-14
dbol 40mg 1-4
Deca 400mg 1-12

And I kinda want to know how and what some of you do when you go into your prep....do you bridge or go straight in ?

Late march to June 12weeks
Test p 100 eod weeks 14-23
Tren a 75 eod weeks 16-24
Masteron e 500mg 14-24

Aromasin 12.5 throughout

Thoughts ? Man I'm just soo pumped to beat these guys on stage...just wasnt fair, I felt like I could of came in better shape if I ran at least half the things they were on....but my diet and cardio was in point and I managed to do well..

Thanks in advance for any replies
 
Hey guys, worked my ass off and did my first show and came second...
Some of these guys were on a lot of stuff...like I mean a lot..cause I spoke with em.
All I did was test at 400mg/week and masteron 400mg/week for the last few weeks....this cycle is NOOTHING compared to what my competitors were running...

This time I am more pumped to have a clean off season to gain as much as I can and come in realllllly hard and lean for the provincials in the summer...so I need you guys to help me lay out a cycle here...
I plan on taking the next weeks off as I start PCT but I'm thinking
Pct for 4 weeks and lay off til January

January - march 12 weeks
Test e 600 mg/week 1-14
dbol 40mg 1-4
Deca 400mg 1-12

And I kinda want to know how and what some of you do when you go into your prep....do you bridge or go straight in ?

Late march to June 12weeks
Test p 100 eod weeks 14-23
Tren a 75 eod weeks 16-24
Masteron e 500mg 14-24

Aromasin 12.5 throughout

Thoughts ? Man I'm just soo pumped to beat these guys on stage...just wasnt fair, I felt like I could of came in better shape if I ran at least half the things they were on....but my diet and cardio was in point and I managed to do well..

Thanks in advance for any replies

i would not run test that high with that cycle man... your going to be a watery bloated mess... if your intent on running that sort of cycle then run it this way...

1-12 test e 350 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-10 deca 400 mg week
1-10 caber .5 mg e3d
1-4 dbol 30 mg day
1-4 n2guard
5-12 hcgenerate ES
13-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
nolva 40/20/20/20 AG-guys.com
phytoserms n2bm.com
hcgenerate n2bm.com
aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

OPTIONAL

Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM




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Second cycle

1-12 test prop 75 me eod
1-10 tren ace 50 mg ed
1-12 mast prop 150-200 mg eod
1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-10 caber .5 mg e3d
3-10 hcgenerate es
11-12 hcg 1000 ius week
7-12 winstrol 50 mg day
7-12 n2guard

pct 13-16

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
phytoserms n2bm.com
hcgenerate n2bm.com
aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

OPTIONAL

Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM




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Thanks bro..that looks legit...def gotta go back to the drawing board and figure things out. Just so pumped to get back on stage man...

Gonna get a blood test done this week to see how things are...but yea thanks again, you're layout looks more well put
 
How much time off woukd you need between cycles dylan. The usual time on time off or would it be shorter becauce he's competing

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How much time off woukd you need between cycles dylan. The usual time on time off or would it be shorter becauce he's competing

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it really just depends... he can cruise if to the next cycle if he wants and that would shorten the time off... if he cruises then 8-12 weeks... if not and he runs a full pct then i would wait the usual time on = time off... you could push it a little bit for the competition but i wouldn't too much... recovery is extremely important...
 
Congratulations on your success. I would pm Nelson Montana with your questions and most likely he will see your post and interject. Nelson has competed his whole life and I would definitely take his advice as to how you want to approach your upcoming event. Best of luck to you and please keep us informed on your success.
 
What I've learned over thwe years is to keep it simple -- go with what works best, disregard what doesn't work as well. I also have my personal likes and dislikes. I dislike deca because it bloats. Mixed with d-bol is gyno waiting to happen. Following with nolva will make you feel like shit.

I understand you wanting to step up the pace, but there's a good way and a bad way.

You've done alright with low dosages. Don't completely change everything. In my pic, I did a total 600 mgs a week for 6 weeks of preparation. Now, I'm old lol, and I'm not going to push it as much as you might, but there's no reason to go crazy. A 12 week cycle is plenty as long as you stay in shape in-between. Look into BRIDGE. from www.needtobuildmuscle.com

I think what will make the,most difference is using masteron the last few weeks. That gives a certain polish that nothing else will. Of course, it's all very short lived. It's a total cosmetic drug. But competition isn't about long term, it's about one night.

The biggest factor in being in top condition is diet.

My advice...do what you've been doing and raise the dosage a bit. Add some Primo and some D-bol the first couple of weeks. (Use N2GUARD while on). You don't need to stay on. I believe you get better results if you hit your receptors fresh. Check out GEAR also from NTBM. it's awesome on cycle.

For PCT, go with HCG, UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE -- also at NTBM or Mrsupps.

I hate clomid, but if it works for you, use it. I never do.

Good luck. Train hard. And have fun.
 
I go straight into contest prep.. ditch the gear that can cause water retention (besides test) and switch to over to short esters with tren and other hardening compounds.

I posted a thread about what people run for contest prep. Your cycle doesn't look to far off from what I ran. You should have no problem with recovery if you keep the entire cycle to 20-24 weeks. Just make sure to use HCG on cycle every now and then to limit shutdown, and have a full and through pct planned. I usually cruise for a couple weeks on just a low dose of test and let everything else clear before starting PCT.

Also, don't worry about the "water" you gain during the first part of the cycle. It will be long gone by time you compete.
 
Thanks bro..that looks legit...def gotta go back to the drawing board and figure things out. Just so pumped to get back on stage man...

Gonna get a blood test done this week to see how things are...but yea thanks again, you're layout looks more well put

Yes bro, that stage is addictive. I agree with you on that. I can't wait to get back up there myself.

I would run some Winny up to the show as well, and make sure you keep your test dose low (around 200mg) in the final weeks.
 
Cool stuff. I qualified for the provincials so I'm def. up against some tough competition and just want to bring in the best physique possible
I'm going to start my pct now and have my bloods checked after...if everything is good to go, I might start a 20 week cycle (last 12 being for my prep) leading right into the show.

Having done only 2 cycles (test only last yesr and test/mast for this comp) I have learned quite a few things about how I react and etc
- I'm very Gyno sensitive even just with test, hairloss was an issue with mast but then again it is a dht so not surprised there.

I'm rethinking about doing test deca dbol, as I wouldn't want to deal with Gyno problems again.... Maybe test and dbol, build a solid base, and transition into a test/tren/mast cutter..

I also learned that it is quite difficult to achieve that "look" with just test and mast...don't get me wrong, mast was amazing but I think I. Will def. need to toss in winny or halo last few weeks if I want "that look".

So right now it's pct and training natty, the provincials isn't til 8 months from now...just don't wanna lose any gains during this post cycle time...I will keep you guys updated on what and when I decide to start... Thanks
 
Cool stuff. I qualified for the provincials so I'm def. up against some tough competition and just want to bring in the best physique possible
I'm going to start my pct now and have my bloods checked after...if everything is good to go, I might start a 20 week cycle (last 12 being for my prep) leading right into the show.

Having done only 2 cycles (test only last yesr and test/mast for this comp) I have learned quite a few things about how I react and etc
- I'm very Gyno sensitive even just with test, hairloss was an issue with mast but then again it is a dht so not surprised there.

I'm rethinking about doing test deca dbol, as I wouldn't want to deal with Gyno problems again.... Maybe test and dbol, build a solid base, and transition into a test/tren/mast cutter..

I also learned that it is quite difficult to achieve that "look" with just test and mast...don't get me wrong, mast was amazing but I think I. Will def. need to toss in winny or halo last few weeks if I want "that look".

So right now it's pct and training natty, the provincials isn't til 8 months from now...just don't wanna lose any gains during this post cycle time...I will keep you guys updated on what and when I decide to start... Thanks

Test dbol will be brutal if your gyno sensitive.. dbol aromatizes something fierce. Will really have to have your AI doses dialled in



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Ill find some pics without face lol I weighed in 158 after diuretics...hard to say, I get that I look easily 180 with a pump....I don't look like like your typical 160lb er tho, trust me lol
 
Lol that's the thing, I ended up doing physique and competed with guys who had easily 15+ stage lbs on me...most their legs weren't developed either.... I should of done lightweight bodybuilding, think i woukd of placed really well.....but my next event will definitely be bodybuilding and I'm just hoping to keep my physique through this PCT and come in real strong for my next event......

But this time I plan on having a full plan written down (bulk diet, off season compounds, prep compounds, enough time to prep, have al the compounds before I begin, maybe a 12 week prep coach) ... Just taking things really serious now, physique in the provincials next year or a local bodybuilding event next year..regardless what I decide, I really want to dominate and come in my best
 
Lol that's the thing, I ended up doing physique and competed with guys who had easily 15+ stage lbs on me...most their legs weren't developed either.... I should of done lightweight bodybuilding, think i woukd of placed really well.....but my next event will definitely be bodybuilding and I'm just hoping to keep my physique through this PCT and come in real strong for my next event......

But this time I plan on having a full plan written down (bulk diet, off season compounds, prep compounds, enough time to prep, have al the compounds before I begin, maybe a 12 week prep coach) ... Just taking things really serious now, physique in the provincials next year or a local bodybuilding event next year..regardless what I decide, I really want to dominate and come in my best

Yeh bro, you definitely should have done bodybuilding. I'm sure you could have depleted a little more and got really diced to make lightweight at 154 and would have done very well.

I did physique for my first too, and should have went BB. I got marked down because they said my back was too thick and wide, and my arms were too big...lol. It was a great learning experience and great to get a feel for the stage so I have no regrets.

Now I'm concentrating on adding as much mass as possible before competing in 2014. I will be doing BBing this time, and coming in as big and ripped as I can. I'm at the top of middleweights now if I were to get stage ready, so any more mass may force me into light heavyweights, so I'm trying for a good 10 lbs stage weight before I get up there again next spring/summer
 
Bumping this thread.....I have been on PCT for 3 weeks now.
Once I finish, ill get my bloods done and assess situation from there but here's my final cycle layout for my show... Keep in mind my previous compounds have only been test only and test mast....

Test e 600mg 1-14
Test p 100mg EOD 14-20 (7weeks)
Tren A 100mg EOD 15-20 (6 weeks)
Prami with tren
mast e 500mg/week 13-20 (8 weeks)
Maybe winstrol/halo if needed at the end
Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD all throughout
Hcg last 2 weeks then Pct

I planned to run test NPP and dbol at the start but I'm pretty estrogen sensitive and thought of running those scare me. If I decide to run NPP, I'd run prami with it (can't get caber). Any thought here ?

I spoke with quite a few competitors and they told me, if I bring my size up a bit more, I'd be in real good shape as I have a decent symmetry..I intended on using the first 12-14 weeks to pack on some size and then transition to my pre contest prep...
Should I look into something to take with my test at the start if I decide not to do NPP/dbol

I attached a picture, I'm pretty bloated lol but this is off the juice on PCT....

Any help with a cycle layout based on my goals.....
The shows in June but I might do an amateur show in April..thanks in advance
 
I would add NPP to the first 8-10 weeks of your cycle. If you do, lower your test dose a bit. You don't have to use an oral at the beginning, but you could use Tbol instead of Dbol if you were worried about gyno. Also, if you are estrogen sensitive, then run your AI every day instead of eod.

Winstrol and Halo are a great idea on the back end. You could go with one or the other, or even use both.

Transitioning into your cutting phase of the prep is all going to depend on where you are body fat wise. You muscle gains are going to start to stall out a bit at the 8-10 week mark, so right about then is when I would start cutting. This would give you 10-12 weeks to get ready for stage.

Your set up looks pretty good for the most part. I would do something like this

1-12 Test E - 400 mg/week
1-10 NPP - 100 mg/eod
13-20 Test Prop - 100 mg/eod
13-20 Tren Ace - 100 mg/eod
11-20 Mast E - 600mg/week
15-20 Winstrol - 80mg/day
 
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