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mountain muscle said:
Whoa shooter.

The majority of men? NO. The majority you know maybe. I take offense at that.

Ksharp, being lazy at home and making you do everything is being abusive.

A man does not act like that, a boy does.

Sorry you took offense.

I dont agree about being lazy at home being abusive.

A relationship will never last if you cant put up with a certain degree of flaws in a human being. Laziness is soooo easy to fix!! I would never give up on someone because they were lazy around the house, alot of Mom's have raised their son's that way , doing their laundry , cooking, etc.
 
mountain muscle said:
Or accept the fact that they may be the problem.
There is a reason I stay single now, I know I am a huge pain in the ass to deal with in a relationship.
you=more realistic than %99.92829 of US population.
 
superdave said:
A man of Ksharp's bf laziness will not improve because it is all pervasive with him. He has proven it after 6 years.


okay I think I have said this before but he wasn't always like this.....it has just gotten progressively worst over the last year or so. The bills, I always paid up front...it was my house, and that's what I was doing before but he did pay for all the extra's....he really doesn't make that much and I had been so fine with that!! He use to do so much around the house, we have painted, put in hard wood floors, changed doors, did landscaping together..so many things.
I can't figure out what changed all of a sudden, I would think he had another woman but he is always at work or home. The only thing I can pin point it to is when he started to gamble.........yes, gamble. I almost left him them but he went and had himself banned from every casino in the state. That so help but I know that is an addiction and I wonder if he resents me for it somehow even if he doesn't think he does. I even thought it was because of meds he is taking for high blood pressure because I know it affect sex drive already.

I guess I look for excusses because it hurts so bad that you where someone's everything and them yours and now.......nothing.

Everyone I know loves this man, he has always had a huge heart and was a blast to be with....Superdave, it was so much more than sex, he was my everything, my best friend 1st and foremost. It kills me that it has come to this.

I do believe that he will be moving soon, we have been talking/fighting about it for a couple of weeks now. I even think he is hurt but in his heart he knows he has dropped the ball with me.
I KNOW I deserve so much more. If not, I will be content with being by myself.
 
ksharp01 said:
okay I think I have said this before but he wasn't always like this.....it has just gotten progressively worst over the last year or so. The bills, I always paid up front...it was my house, and that's what I was doing before but he did pay for all the extra's....he really doesn't make that much and I had been so fine with that!! He use to do so much around the house, we have painted, put in hard wood floors, changed doors, did landscaping together..so many things.
I can't figure out what changed all of a sudden, I would think he had another woman but he is always at work or home. The only thing I can pin point it to is when he started to gamble.........yes, gamble. I almost left him them but he went and had himself banned from every casino in the state. That so help but I know that is an addiction and I wonder if he resents me for it somehow even if he doesn't think he does. I even thought it was because of meds he is taking for high blood pressure because I know it affect sex drive already.

I guess I look for excusses because it hurts so bad that you where someone's everything and them yours and now.......nothing.

Everyone I know loves this man, he has always had a huge heart and was a blast to be with....Superdave, it was so much more than sex, he was my everything, my best friend 1st and foremost. It kills me that it has come to this.

I do believe that he will be moving soon, we have been talking/fighting about it for a couple of weeks now. I even think he is hurt but in his heart he knows he has dropped the ball with me.
I KNOW I deserve so much more. If not, I will be content with being by myself.

ksharp he might have other issues that have nothing to do with you. He is gambling? Did he gamble a sig. amount and not tell you about it???
 
ksharp01 said:
okay I think I have said this before but he wasn't always like this.....it has just gotten progressively worst over the last year or so. The bills, I always paid up front...it was my house, and that's what I was doing before but he did pay for all the extra's....he really doesn't make that much and I had been so fine with that!! He use to do so much around the house, we have painted, put in hard wood floors, changed doors, did landscaping together..so many things.
I can't figure out what changed all of a sudden, I would think he had another woman but he is always at work or home. The only thing I can pin point it to is when he started to gamble.........yes, gamble. I almost left him them but he went and had himself banned from every casino in the state. That so help but I know that is an addiction and I wonder if he resents me for it somehow even if he doesn't think he does. I even thought it was because of meds he is taking for high blood pressure because I know it affect sex drive already.

I guess I look for excusses because it hurts so bad that you where someone's everything and them yours and now.......nothing.

Everyone I know loves this man, he has always had a huge heart and was a blast to be with....Superdave, it was so much more than sex, he was my everything, my best friend 1st and foremost. It kills me that it has come to this.

I do believe that he will be moving soon, we have been talking/fighting about it for a couple of weeks now. I even think he is hurt but in his heart he knows he has dropped the ball with me.
I KNOW I deserve so much more. If not, I will be content with being by myself.
did you get my pm?
 
superdave said:
You get taken advantage of if you allow yourself to, plain and simple. And just because you happen to think most men are like this is that better than being single? Please tell me women like you and ksharp dont move in with these men because you think its the best you can do and you cant stand to be alone.


absolutly not.......I would never of considered myself the desperate type. You apparently aren't reading my post.
 
ksharp01 said:
okay I think I have said this before but he wasn't always like this.....it has just gotten progressively worst over the last year or so. The bills, I always paid up front...it was my house, and that's what I was doing before but he did pay for all the extra's....he really doesn't make that much and I had been so fine with that!! He use to do so much around the house, we have painted, put in hard wood floors, changed doors, did landscaping together..so many things.
I can't figure out what changed all of a sudden, I would think he had another woman but he is always at work or home. The only thing I can pin point it to is when he started to gamble.........yes, gamble. I almost left him them but he went and had himself banned from every casino in the state. That so help but I know that is an addiction and I wonder if he resents me for it somehow even if he doesn't think he does. I even thought it was because of meds he is taking for high blood pressure because I know it affect sex drive already.

I guess I look for excusses because it hurts so bad that you where someone's everything and them yours and now.......nothing.

Everyone I know loves this man, he has always had a huge heart and was a blast to be with....Superdave, it was so much more than sex, he was my everything, my best friend 1st and foremost. It kills me that it has come to this.

I do believe that he will be moving soon, we have been talking/fighting about it for a couple of weeks now. I even think he is hurt but in his heart he knows he has dropped the ball with me.
I KNOW I deserve so much more. If not, I will be content with being by myself.

Sharpie,

Unless it is futile, find out the one thing he would really love to do and arrange it for the both of you. Completely change the routine you two are in right now.
Sounds like you both need a change of pace.
After you do that thing of his, take him along on the thing you most want to do.
 
mountain muscle said:
Sharpie,

Unless it is futile, find out the one thing he would really love to do and arrange it for the both of you. Completely change the routine you two are in right now.
Sounds like you both need a change of pace.
After you do that thing of his, take him along on the thing you most want to do.


It is probally futile. I am sure he will be leaving soon so maybe that would give both of us a better perspective of things.

oh and at least you can admit your a pain in the ass to live with. :)
 
cindylou said:
Sorry you took offense.

I dont agree about being lazy at home being abusive.

A relationship will never last if you cant put up with a certain degree of flaws in a human being. Laziness is soooo easy to fix!! I would never give up on someone because they were lazy around the house, alot of Mom's have raised their son's that way , doing their laundry , cooking, etc.

Colts? :chesty:
 
ksharp01 said:
okay I think I have said this before but he wasn't always like this.....it has just gotten progressively worst over the last year or so. The bills, I always paid up front...it was my house, and that's what I was doing before but he did pay for all the extra's....he really doesn't make that much and I had been so fine with that!! He use to do so much around the house, we have painted, put in hard wood floors, changed doors, did landscaping together..so many things.
I can't figure out what changed all of a sudden, I would think he had another woman but he is always at work or home. The only thing I can pin point it to is when he started to gamble.........yes, gamble. I almost left him them but he went and had himself banned from every casino in the state. That so help but I know that is an addiction and I wonder if he resents me for it somehow even if he doesn't think he does. I even thought it was because of meds he is taking for high blood pressure because I know it affect sex drive already.

I guess I look for excusses because it hurts so bad that you where someone's everything and them yours and now.......nothing.

Everyone I know loves this man, he has always had a huge heart and was a blast to be with....Superdave, it was so much more than sex, he was my everything, my best friend 1st and foremost. It kills me that it has come to this.

I do believe that he will be moving soon, we have been talking/fighting about it for a couple of weeks now. I even think he is hurt but in his heart he knows he has dropped the ball with me.
I KNOW I deserve so much more. If not, I will be content with being by myself.
The more you post the worse it all sounds. From the beginning it wasnt good because any decent man would not have been comfortable just paying for extras while living in a womans house, he would have manned up and split everything 50/50. If money is the #1 cause of divorce then it causes bigger problems for everyone else that lives together but isnt married, because you are basically glorified roommates. But glad to see you are taking the necessary steps, however difficult. Relationships that were once great sometimes become unsalvageable, yes Ive been there also. Its like taking two steps back to allow you to go forward with life, it sucks and hurts but you and your son will be infinitely better afterwards.
Talking and fighting about it isnt going to make it happen. It's your house and your life so you are going to have to point blank tell him to get out and its over.
 
ksharp01 said:
It is probally futile. I am sure he will be leaving soon so maybe that would give both of us a better perspective of things.

oh and at least you can admit your a pain in the ass to live with. :)

Well sorry to hear that. Just learn from the situation and don't repeat it again.

I am a pain in the ass to live with or know even. You going to need a roommate? :chomp:
 
heatherrae said:
They do that to lots of people if they post a lot when they are a noob. You should have seen the shit I used to get...lol.

example:

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superdave said:
The more you post the worse it all sounds. From the beginning it wasnt good because any decent man would not have been comfortable just paying for extras while living in a womans house, he would have manned up and split everything 50/50. If money is the #1 cause of divorce then it causes bigger problems for everyone else that lives together but isnt married, because you are basically glorified roommates. But glad to see you are taking the necessary steps, however difficult. Relationships that were once great sometimes become unsalvageable, yes Ive been there also. Its like taking two steps back to allow you to go forward with life, it sucks and hurts but you and your son will be infinitely better afterwards.
Talking and fighting about it isnt going to make it happen. It's your house and your life so you are going to have to point blank tell him to get out and its over.


Yes. Agree 100% :)
 
superdave said:
The more you post the worse it all sounds. From the beginning it wasnt good because any decent man would not have been comfortable just paying for extras while living in a womans house, he would have manned up and split everything 50/50. If money is the #1 cause of divorce then it causes bigger problems for everyone else that lives together but isnt married, because you are basically glorified roommates. But glad to see you are taking the necessary steps, however difficult. Relationships that were once great sometimes become unsalvageable, yes Ive been there also. Its like taking two steps back to allow you to go forward with life, it sucks and hurts but you and your son will be infinitely better afterwards.
Talking and fighting about it isnt going to make it happen. It's your house and your life so you are going to have to point blank tell him to get out and its over.

That's what I was saying.........I didn't even expect or wanna get into this but it is hard to fit everything in when your typing!!! ugh!!!

I do know in my heart of hearts it is over. I have just been delaying the inevitable (sp?)
I know I have, I hate convertations and I hate to hurt anyone. That sucks he put me in the position that he has. SUCKS!!
 
ksharp01 said:
okay I think I have said this before but he wasn't always like this.....it has just gotten progressively worst over the last year or so. The bills, I always paid up front...it was my house, and that's what I was doing before but he did pay for all the extra's....he really doesn't make that much and I had been so fine with that!! He use to do so much around the house, we have painted, put in hard wood floors, changed doors, did landscaping together..so many things.
I can't figure out what changed all of a sudden, I would think he had another woman but he is always at work or home. The only thing I can pin point it to is when he started to gamble.........yes, gamble. I almost left him them but he went and had himself banned from every casino in the state. That so help but I know that is an addiction and I wonder if he resents me for it somehow even if he doesn't think he does. I even thought it was because of meds he is taking for high blood pressure because I know it affect sex drive already.

I guess I look for excusses because it hurts so bad that you where someone's everything and them yours and now.......nothing.

Everyone I know loves this man, he has always had a huge heart and was a blast to be with....Superdave, it was so much more than sex, he was my everything, my best friend 1st and foremost. It kills me that it has come to this.

I do believe that he will be moving soon, we have been talking/fighting about it for a couple of weeks now. I even think he is hurt but in his heart he knows he has dropped the ball with me.
I KNOW I deserve so much more. If not, I will be content with being by myself.
I can only imagine how it feels hun..But just knowing you for a short time via elite I realize that you are a total sweetheart. You deserve so much better..And for both of your happiness I hope it works out!
If you ever need to chat, feel free to pm. :heart:
 
Angel said:
I can only imagine how it feels hun..But just knowing you for a short time via elite I realize that you are a total sweetheart. You deserve so much better..And for both of your happiness I hope it works out!
If you ever need to chat, feel free to pm. :heart:


I really do appreciate that!
It is hard and I myself believe that I do deserve better. Lord knows I am not getting any younger :worried:
and like I said I so hate the single scene...with a passion! As much as I enjoy having someone to spend my days and nights with...I think it will be a really long time before I could even begin to move on with anyone else, I will need alot of me time. Makes it 100 times harder when you have kids. Even though I honestly think mine would be very supportive, he would just want me happy. :heart:

I think all of you have meant well, and even if you didn't, I still have no hard feelings about any comments made. :rose:
 
mountain muscle said:
Well sorry to hear that. Just learn from the situation and don't repeat it again.

I am a pain in the ass to live with or know even. You going to need a roommate? :chomp:


oh hell no......no roommates! lol

I already know I can support a family of 3...not wealthy by no means but I get by on my own. A roommate would be a whole nother set of problems.

what about friends with benefits? :qt: lol
 
ksharp01 said:
oh hell no......no roommates! lol

I already know I can support a family of 3...not wealthy by no means but I get by on my own. A roommate would be a whole nother set of problems.

what about friends with benefits? :qt: lol

Sweet!
I don't want a roomate anyway.
Besides my dogs would tear up any and all stuffed animals in the house.
Can I talk you out of some occasional cooking in exchange for some babysitting of the kids so you can have fun?
 
mountain muscle said:
Sweet!
I don't want a roomate anyway.
Besides my dogs would tear up any and all stuffed animals in the house.
Can I talk you out of some occasional cooking in exchange for some babysitting of the kids so you can have fun?


okay now were talking----a bit of give and take :)

what kind of dogs do you have? I have a 1/2 jack russell terrier and 1/2 chihuahua....she is a spastic, lovable little thing.
 
ksharp01 said:
okay now were talking----a bit of give and take :)

what kind of dogs do you have? I have a 1/2 jack russell terrier and 1/2 chihuahua....she is a spastic, lovable little thing.

I have a Boxer and a Weimeraner. Both full-time, spastic daddy's boys.
 
heavy_duty said:
sounds to me like your man is depressed.


I think so to, he-himself is so unhappy but I can't seem to help that. He has got to be happy with himself before he can even begin to make someone else happy. I kinda feel sorry for him but I have to stop and tell myself that he doesn't feel sorry for me.
Not that I want him to feel sorry for me per say....you know what i mean? He hasn't been happy for awhile but I can promise you it is nothing I have done. He says I bitch to much but like I told him that I only bitch about the same things, there is nothing new added so why not try to do better in the areas I bitch about?
That is all he has on me? That's pretty sad it that is all he can come up with.
 
ksharp01 said:
Welll..... Since you asked nicely.....what would you want?

okay there is my problem, I am a push over lol :)

You know it, girl. Everyone can tell you're a total sweetheart!

He's not being a man and taking advantage of your overly good nature.

Good luck to you K. You deserve to be happy!
 
ksharp01 said:
Welll..... Since you asked nicely.....what would you want?

okay there is my problem, I am a push over lol :)


I agree with Cmarc and see you are distressed over the whole situation. It's not easy decision either way, maybe you can just date living in seperate houses so he begins to appreciate all you did for him?

p.s. he better be well hung... :p
 
CMarc said:
You know it, girl. Everyone can tell you're a total sweetheart!

He's not being a man and taking advantage of your overly good nature.

Good luck to you K. You deserve to be happy!


I am a good person, the type that would give someone the shirt off my back and I have been stepped on time and time agian.

How does one acquire a set? :)
 
mightymouse69 said:
I agree with Cmarc and see you are distressed over the whole situation. It's not easy decision either way, maybe you can just date living in seperate houses so he begins to appreciate all you did for him?

p.s. he better be well hung... :p


I think that once I can get him out the house I will see even clearer!! I have been told that if he won't leave just call the cops and put a restraining order on him....but that seems a bit harse.
I am hoping that we can be adults about this and agree that we are both unhappy and him leave. We have all the same friends and I would like to think that when we run into each other it won't be a blood bath.
Is that asking to much?
 
mightymouse69 said:
I agree with Cmarc and see you are distressed over the whole situation. It's not easy decision either way, maybe you can just date living in seperate houses so he begins to appreciate all you did for him?

p.s. he better be well hung... :p


oh and to your ps....I have never had a complaint in that department up until he got on those damn blood pressure meds...sex drive is very low!!!
 
start feeding him St John's Wort.


ksharp01 said:
I think so to, he-himself is so unhappy but I can't seem to help that. He has got to be happy with himself before he can even begin to make someone else happy. I kinda feel sorry for him but I have to stop and tell myself that he doesn't feel sorry for me.
Not that I want him to feel sorry for me per say....you know what i mean? He hasn't been happy for awhile but I can promise you it is nothing I have done. He says I bitch to much but like I told him that I only bitch about the same things, there is nothing new added so why not try to do better in the areas I bitch about?
That is all he has on me? That's pretty sad it that is all he can come up with.
 
heavy_duty said:
start feeding him St John's Wort.

I will suggest it to him, but you know how you men are...lol
besides I think to much has been done and said to salvage this, or either I am just older and tired.
I just hope we can remain somewhat as friends. He can have a big heart and I don't want for him to hurt but at what price to I contine to hurt? That's what is hard about this.

I have already lost my best friend *cries*
 
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