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ksharp01

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I have made...directed to a certain someone...I am sure we ALL know who it is but


I never scream but Geesh, can we lay off the calling people out and shit??

It has really gotten so old and it is popping up in virtually every thread but

What a particular person must not seem to understand is that there are friendships that were established way before either of us sign on here and some toes should never be stepped on.

Know what I mean Vern? :nerd:


fyi......I really have absolutly nothing against you at all, but usually if I don't want to read about a certain subject...I avoid that thread. All this bs is coming up in almost every thread.

Can we just play nice? I know there will always be cat fights from time to time but geesh.....enough is enough...Please!
 
I vowed to never post another stupid post, if there are no more posts about my stupid posts.
 
I know that was all about me!

Not really!

Play nice to my Ksharp whoever you are!!!
 
Jesus H C, how am I suppose to act with all this shit going on. First day I arrive here shit starts, youngguns this and youngguns that, bombed and bombed again, let's see how you would react?
 
feisty11975 said:
hey, we were talking about your boobs in TSO's myspace thread. ;)


huh?

lol... wtf? I all of the sudden feel geigh... and I like it
 
youngguns said:
I vowed to never post another stupid post, if there are no more posts about my stupid posts.


I personally think your a sweet kid with a huge ego and are most likely on the defensive most the time...but you do stir the pot alot. I mean no harm or to hurt feelings....I just wanted to point out it is old.
It is funny that you knew exactly who I was talking about, but I will say this...it hasn't always been you, just most the time.
 
youngguns said:
Jesus H C, how am I suppose to act with all this shit going on. First day I arrive here shit starts, youngguns this and youngguns that, bombed and bombed again, let's see how you would react?


I brought that up to. Just sometimes when it seems dropped, you start it agian. Really, was the Angel thread necessary?

anyway, I just sent you no hard feelings k :)

I just want to play nice nice...that just me :whatever:
 
Well truth is, if there are no new thread, I'll make one usually.
But you know pick3's wicked threads about how he takes anything anally, or wootooms stating his forearm hurts, they are all really exciting. You try having a bunch of people say they "hate you" and you have never seen them even one time. I have no problem being civil, but I find there are rules applying to me that don't apply to others, that's pure....
oh and you can't forget the n00bs who talk shit just so they are in the "loop".


If all yall hated me so much, why are there 40,000 threads about me, think I may post on them? eh eh eh?
 
youngguns said:
Well truth is, if there are no new thread, I'll make one usually.
But you know pick3's wicked threads about how he takes anything anally, or wootooms stating his forearm hurts, they are all really exciting. You try having a bunch of people say they "hate you" and you have never seen them even one time. I have no problem being civil, but I find there are rules applying to me that don't apply to others, that's pure....
oh and you can't forget the n00bs who talk shit just so they are in the "loop".


If all yall hated me so much, why are there 40,000 threads about me, think I may post on them? eh eh eh?
They do that to lots of people if they post a lot when they are a noob. You should have seen the shit I used to get...lol.
 
Angel said:
Frisky before boobage pics are required to further read this thread


lol

I'll see if I have some lying around... but seriously, I doubt that being clothed you could even tell... even though I went from a small B med A cup to a D cup.
 
youngguns said:
Well truth is, if there are no new thread, I'll make one usually.
But you know pick3's wicked threads about how he takes anything anally, or wootooms stating his forearm hurts, they are all really exciting. You try having a bunch of people say they "hate you" and you have never seen them even one time. I have no problem being civil, but I find there are rules applying to me that don't apply to others, that's pure....
oh and you can't forget the n00bs who talk shit just so they are in the "loop".


If all yall hated me so much, why are there 40,000 threads about me, think I may post on them? eh eh eh?


I hate me.

Wait damnit, typo.
 
youngguns said:
Well truth is, if there are no new thread, I'll make one usually.
But you know pick3's wicked threads about how he takes anything anally, or wootooms stating his forearm hurts, they are all really exciting. You try having a bunch of people say they "hate you" and you have never seen them even one time. I have no problem being civil, but I find there are rules applying to me that don't apply to others, that's pure....
oh and you can't forget the n00bs who talk shit just so they are in the "loop".


If all yall hated me so much, why are there 40,000 threads about me, think I may post on them? eh eh eh?


Well, for myself personally..I really don't hate you..not even a lil bit. That's honest. And with all the post, I think you made yourself a punching bag right off the bat. In time it will all pass but someone has to be the bigger person and stop egging it on. Just ignore the ones that do, they will eventually get tired of it to.
And PLEASE, I hope your not talking about me as one of the noobs that talk shit to be in any loop. I may be sweet but I am no ass kisser! I like who I like and talk to those only. There are several people I see day in and day out that I have never even talked to.

I think I have covered what I wanted to. Oh and realize that sometimes when you read something, everyone puts there own emotion behind it. It is sometimes hard to know when someone is being sarcastic, or just mean or whatever. There is no emotion in typed words...take them with a grain of salt.

just my .2 cents :)
 
heatherrae said:
They do that to lots of people if they post a lot when they are a noob. You should have seen the shit I used to get...lol.


That's surprising. I mean, I post fairly often, and I don't get much shit on here, at all.

And, well, you>me, so they should have just bowed down to your awesomeness as soon as you arrived.
 
I got bomed a few times when I first started posting from like the same 2-3 people accusing me of being an alter....I didn't even have a clue what that meant. I had never even been in a forum before!
 
sardonicone said:
That's surprising. I mean, I post fairly often, and I don't get much shit on here, at all.

And, well, you>me, so they should have just bowed down to your awesomeness as soon as you arrived.
your definatly not an alter
 
ksharp01 said:
Well, for myself personally..I really don't hate you..not even a lil bit. That's honest. And with all the post, I think you made yourself a punching bag right off the bat. In time it will all pass but someone has to be the bigger person and stop egging it on. Just ignore the ones that do, they will eventually get tired of it to.
And PLEASE, I hope your not talking about me as one of the noobs that talk shit to be in any loop. I may be sweet but I am no ass kisser! I like who I like and talk to those only. There are several people I see day in and day out that I have never even talked to.

I think I have covered what I wanted to. Oh and realize that sometimes when you read something, everyone puts there own emotion behind it. It is sometimes hard to know when someone is being sarcastic, or just mean or whatever. There is no emotion in typed words...take them with a grain of salt.

just my .2 cents :)
aww :)

I originally came here for the steroid info, but I like chatting on here, sometimes.
 
youngguns said:
aww :)

I originally came here for the steroid info, but I like chatting on here, sometimes.


STEROID'S???? Your not to young to start that? :worried:
Every see the show about the guy with the exploding arm? I think that is what it was called. That freaked me out big time!!

anyway, you DO understand what I was saying right?
 
youngguns said:
Yes yes I do,

You do know that he injected him self with oil and not steroids right?

You must be talking about something else. This guy admited it was steroids and even try to do surgury on himself.

but that's neither here or there.....
 
mountain muscle said:
You do know that 19 is way too young for steroids right?


That is what I'm thinking, hell...I am not claiming to be a dr know it all by no means but your still growing/developing...just can't be good.

My 14 year old works out with me and I have that talk with him all the time about it. I include it in my other drug, smoking and sex speech. Poor kid may be horrified to do anything till he is 30....lol
 
ksharp01 said:
You must be talking about something else. This guy admited it was steroids and even try to do surgury on himself.

but that's neither here or there.....


Synthol injections hun and ghe tried to remove an abcess. But yes, he was on a lot of gear as well.

What I don't get though, is why steroids are villified, but diet drugs, liposuction, botox, plastic surgery is now commanly accepted?
 
youngguns said:
The only problem I've heard is growth plates, and I aint growing no more.

how do you know that your growth stopped?

But besides that fact, why not tap out your bodies full potential before adding in steriods to the mix. You don't even know what your body is capable of just yet.
 
mountain muscle said:
Synthol injections hun and ghe tried to remove an abcess. But yes, he was on a lot of gear as well.

What I don't get though, is why steroids are villified, but diet drugs, liposuction, botox, plastic surgery is now commanly accepted?

and why is booze legal but dope isn't....I get totally more wasted if I drink. So many things are backwards in this crazy world.

Everyone is trying to look like what they think society thinks we should look like. Striving for that perfect look, that perfect body.....in the long haul there will have to be a high price to pay.
So I think we as a whole we are slowly being brainwashed into thinking anything that makes us "look" better is okay.
Hell, what, maybe 10 years ago a boob job was almost unhear of, and for those that did do it, did not dare tell anyone. Now we brag about it...it is acceptable. I think even steroids are even becoming more and more acceptable.
**for the record>>>of course this is just the way I see it and dont expect some or most to agree. :)
 
Frisky said:
how do you know that your growth stopped?

But besides that fact, why not tap out your bodies full potential before adding in steriods to the mix. You don't even know what your body is capable of just yet.


yes, how would one know this? I think a dr. could tell you by x-rays of your bones and joints or something like that. It's not something you can just 'feel'
 
youngguns said:
I vowed to never post another stupid post, if there are no more posts about my stupid posts.

that makes very little sense. it's the other way around. if you stop acting like a douche, people may stop calling you one. i surely will. nobody hates you. nobody cares enough to hate you. and you're right about other posts...pick3's faggot shit is so old and tired, it fucking numbs my mind.

people just don't understand that anything like that becomes lame after a few posts. i have no idea how someone could be endlessly entertained by dragging out a joke which involves the pretense of his own homosexuality...or anything else (he's a good guy, however).

but people are stupid, boring, have little taste, and will continually respond to the same things regardless of how craptastic they are. the sooner you learn this and try to be different...the sooner you'll make me happy.

and that's all that counts.
 
jackangel said:
that makes very little sense. it's the other way around. if you stop acting like a douche, people may stop calling you one. i surely will. nobody hates you. nobody cares enough to hate you. and you're right about other posts...pick3's faggot shit is so old and tired, it fucking numbs my mind.

people just don't understand that anything like that becomes lame after a few posts. i have no idea how someone could be endlessly entertained by dragging out a joke which involves the pretense of his own homosexuality...or anything else (he's a good guy, however).

but people are stupid, boring, have little taste, and will continually respond to the same things regardless of how craptastic they are. the sooner you learn this and try to be different...the sooner you'll make me happy.

and that's all that counts.
well you certainly made me happy, finally someone with some sense!
 
ksharp01 said:
and why is booze legal but dope isn't....I get totally more wasted if I drink. So many things are backwards in this crazy world.

Everyone is trying to look like what they think society thinks we should look like. Striving for that perfect look, that perfect body.....in the long haul there will have to be a high price to pay.
So I think we as a whole we are slowly being brainwashed into thinking anything that makes us "look" better is okay.
Hell, what, maybe 10 years ago a boob job was almost unhear of, and for those that did do it, did not dare tell anyone. Now we brag about it...it is acceptable. I think even steroids are even becoming more and more acceptable.
**for the record>>>of course this is just the way I see it and dont expect some or most to agree. :)

Why don't we get drunk and s...
 
jackangel said:
that makes very little sense. it's the other way around. if you stop acting like a douche, people may stop calling you one. i surely will. nobody hates you. nobody cares enough to hate you. and you're right about other posts...pick3's faggot shit is so old and tired, it fucking numbs my mind.

people just don't understand that anything like that becomes lame after a few posts. i have no idea how someone could be endlessly entertained by dragging out a joke which involves the pretense of his own homosexuality...or anything else (he's a good guy, however).

but people are stupid, boring, have little taste, and will continually respond to the same things regardless of how craptastic they are. the sooner you learn this and try to be different...the sooner you'll make me happy.

and that's all that counts.

LMMFAO @ CRAPTASTIC!!
 
jackangel said:
that makes very little sense. it's the other way around. if you stop acting like a douche, people may stop calling you one. i surely will. nobody hates you. nobody cares enough to hate you. and you're right about other posts...pick3's faggot shit is so old and tired, it fucking numbs my mind.

people just don't understand that anything like that becomes lame after a few posts. i have no idea how someone could be endlessly entertained by dragging out a joke which involves the pretense of his own homosexuality...or anything else (he's a good guy, however).

but people are stupid, boring, have little taste, and will continually respond to the same things regardless of how craptastic they are. the sooner you learn this and try to be different...the sooner you'll make me happy.

and that's all that counts.


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jackangel said:
that makes very little sense. it's the other way around. if you stop acting like a douche, people may stop calling you one. i surely will. nobody hates you. nobody cares enough to hate you. and you're right about other posts...pick3's faggot shit is so old and tired, it fucking numbs my mind.

people just don't understand that anything like that becomes lame after a few posts. i have no idea how someone could be endlessly entertained by dragging out a joke which involves the pretense of his own homosexuality...or anything else (he's a good guy, however).

but people are stupid, boring, have little taste, and will continually respond to the same things regardless of how craptastic they are. the sooner you learn this and try to be different...the sooner you'll make me happy.

and that's all that counts.

I'll have to keep this in mind...wanna make sure YOUR happy :)
 
jackangel said:
come on now, are you trying to make it impossible for me to rag on you anymore? :(



:)


You were ragging on me mister?
I never noticed :qt: I thought you were flirting with me












lol
go ahead, wouldn't want to ruin your day now........Give me your best shot. I can take it. I am a BIG girl
 
ksharp01 said:
You were ragging on me mister?
I never noticed :qt: I thought you were flirting with me












lol
go ahead, wouldn't want to ruin your day now........Give me your best shot. I can take it. I am a BIG girl

I even gave you an opening
 
sardonicone said:
Hey, as long as I get a free show out of it, it can be a two midgets dressed up as clowns and a poney.

Then you ought to come out to Bourbon Street in New Orleans...you can see that and some :lil k:
 
sardonicone said:
Dancing stick figures?

Ohhhh
Now THAT was funny! :)

It was suppose to be boobies....but I think you knew that. Hell they have bars with their mini little orgies....pictures outside of bar. Imagine the cooties :worried: flying around in there and in your drink.
 
youngguns said:
Jesus H C, how am I suppose to act with all this shit going on. First day I arrive here shit starts, youngguns this and youngguns that, bombed and bombed again, let's see how you would react?

Hmmm... I'd start with shutting the fuck up for a while, and letting it die down.
 
ksharp
you're kind of hot, do you have an accent?
any pics?
married? :p


ksharp01 said:
I have made...directed to a certain someone...I am sure we ALL know who it is but


I never scream but Geesh, can we lay off the calling people out and shit??

It has really gotten so old and it is popping up in virtually every thread but

What a particular person must not seem to understand is that there are friendships that were established way before either of us sign on here and some toes should never be stepped on.

Know what I mean Vern? :nerd:


fyi......I really have absolutly nothing against you at all, but usually if I don't want to read about a certain subject...I avoid that thread. All this bs is coming up in almost every thread.

Can we just play nice? I know there will always be cat fights from time to time but geesh.....enough is enough...Please!
 
heavy_duty said:
ksharp
you're kind of hot, do you have an accent?
any pics?
married? :p


Thanks! But no other pics than what's on avi, can't d/l from work. and not married.....won't make that mistake agian. I have a b/f that is on the rocks right now.
 
He can be such a prick! He does NOTHING around the house and I basically pay all the bills.......and he has had the nerve to be pissed because I'm not coming home cooking 3 course meals anymore! I work all day and as soon as I get home I do bake fish or chicken and may ask him to watch it.
Last night he was just gonna have to wing it himself. Hell, he's a big boy! I don't know how he could point out what I haven't been doing when he does nothing!! I have a garbage disposal that has needed replacing for 1 1/2 years now! That is just lazy and uncalled for. Hell, I bought a new one...just needs to be put in!!
okay sorry, had to vent!
 
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ksharp01 said:
He can be such a prick! He does NOTHING around the house and I basically pay all the bills.......and he has had the nerve to be pissed because I'm not coming home cooking 3 course meals anymore! I work all day and as soon as I get home I do bake fish or chicken and may ask him to watch it.
Last night he was just gonna have to wing it himself. Hell, he's a big boy! I don't know how he could point out what I haven't been doing when he does nothing!! I have a garbage disposal that has needed replacing for 1 1/2 now! That is just lazy and uncalled for. Hell, I bought a new one...just needs to be put in!!
okay sorry, had to vent!

Guess it was no better when you got home eh?
 
Sorry but he should try to pay 1/2 or make up for it in housework, that is my opinion. Maybe you should sit down and talk about what you hate about each other? either try to make changes or end it?

ksharp01 said:
He can be such a prick! He does NOTHING around the house and I basically pay all the bills.......and he has had the nerve to be pissed because I'm not coming home cooking 3 course meals anymore! I work all day and as soon as I get home I do bake fish or chicken and may ask him to watch it.
Last night he was just gonna have to wing it himself. Hell, he's a big boy! I don't know how he could point out what I haven't been doing when he does nothing!! I have a garbage disposal that has needed replacing for 1 1/2 now! That is just lazy and uncalled for. Hell, I bought a new one...just needs to be put in!!
okay sorry, had to vent!
 
ksharp01 said:
He can be such a prick! He does NOTHING around the house and I basically pay all the bills.......and he has had the nerve to be pissed because I'm not coming home cooking 3 course meals anymore! I work all day and as soon as I get home I do bake fish or chicken and may ask him to watch it.
Last night he was just gonna have to wing it himself. Hell, he's a big boy! I don't know how he could point out what I haven't been doing when he does nothing!! I have a garbage disposal that has needed replacing for 1 1/2 now! That is just lazy and uncalled for. Hell, I bought a new one...just needs to be put in!!
okay sorry, had to vent!
If you wont make the mistake of getting married again then why are you making the equivalent mistake of living with your bf? Sounds like 6 in one, half a dozen in the other.
 
mightymouse69 said:
Sorry but he should try to pay 1/2 or make up for it in housework, that is my opinion. Maybe you should sit down and talk about what you hate about each other? either try to make changes or end it?

Yeah, and we have. Just got done talking to him and he knows how I feel, I just told him that if he can't step up to the plate and give more than he takes then we will have to call it off.
Its hard no matter what after being together for 6 years. I sure hate the single scene. :(
 
I have the same prob. ksharp ; i just have done too much for him and now I'm being taken for granted.

Just go on strike!! LOL!!
 
superdave said:
If you wont make the mistake of getting married again then why are you making the equivalent mistake of living with your bf? Sounds like 6 in one, half a dozen in the other.


Oh it is so different. I wouldn't marry current b/f because of tax reasons, driving history and other things like that. I have always been the one to have to pick up and start all over agian with pretty much nothing. This time I bought my house and car and wouldn't want him or anyone to be able to come in and take what I have worked so hard for.
 
feisty11975 said:
Guess it was no better when you got home eh?

No, it hasn't been okay for quite some time now sad to say. I really really really hate this more than hell ever know
 
cindylou said:
I have the same prob. ksharp ; i just have done too much for him and now I'm being taken for granted.

Just go on strike!! LOL!!

YOUR SO RIGHT. Some of this I guess in a way I brought on myself. Last night I asked him how many women does he know that works full time and comes home to cook a 3 course meal every night. He tells me "well, you USED to!!" I said, my bad for spoiling you to where you now feel cripple without me. I have asked if he could just help put his clothes up or something....NO!
Oh and to top it ALL off me or my son ends up putting the garbage out. That is pittiful!!!
I am so mad but sad all at the same time.
 
ksharp01 said:
Oh it is so different. I wouldn't marry current b/f because of tax reasons, driving history and other things like that. I have always been the one to have to pick up and start all over agian with pretty much nothing. This time I bought my house and car and wouldn't want him or anyone to be able to come in and take what I have worked so hard for.
The tax advantages are for married couples. Besieds, not getting married because of tax purposes and a driving record is about as lame a reason Ive ever heard. If you divorce do you really think a judge is going to rule in favor of the man and hand him your stuff? Never happens, even when the woman makes more money. If you keep losing your possessions every time you leave a man its your own fault for not asserting yourself against the losers you are with, not because of the laws going against you.
 
ksharp01 said:
YOUR SO RIGHT. Some of this I guess in a way I brought on myself. Last night I asked him how many women does he know that works full time and comes home to cook a 3 course meal every night. He tells me "well, you USED to!!" I said, my bad for spoiling you to where you now feel cripple without me. I have asked if he could just help put his clothes up or something....NO!
Oh and to top it ALL off me or my son ends up putting the garbage out. That is pittiful!!!
I am so mad but sad all at the same time.

This is embarrassingly pathetic. You will be in these situations as long as you allow yourself to be. I feel sorry for your son more than anything though, I cant believe you would expose your son to a loser oxygen thief bf, that lives with you no less. And if this has been going on for 6 years dont think for a minute that your son isnt learning and absorbing the loser bf way of life.
 
You know, you don't know everything and you haven't been in my shoes to even walk a mile. Everything is always easier said than done. Yes he is lazy but he isn't abusive to me or my son and my son doens't know all that is going on. They have a great relationship together but my son has a dad that is very much active in his life. He is a great kid and I am very proud of the lil man he is becoming.

It amuses me how when someone throws their heart out there, there is always that one person that wants to kick you when your already down. My b/f has a big heart but he is very lazy and this isn't easy for me, especially because of not only my son but he has kids that I have very much grown attached to.
 
superdave said:
This is embarrassingly pathetic. You will be in these situations as long as you allow yourself to be. I feel sorry for your son more than anything though, I cant believe you would expose your son to a loser oxygen thief bf, that lives with you no less. And if this has been going on for 6 years dont think for a minute that your son isnt learning and absorbing the loser bf way of life.


superdave ; I understand where you are coming from but the majority of men are exactly like ksharp mentioned ; and thats just a fact pure and simple.

They still expect us to do all of the home chores and a full time job and then bitch at us when cant do it all ; and at first we gladly accept the responsiblity expecting gratitude and love in return because we do it out of love and the majority of the time all we get is taken for granted so we are left feeling jaded.
 
cindylou said:
superdave ; I understand where you are coming from but the majority of men are exactly like ksharp mentioned ; and thats just a fact pure and simple.

They still expect us to do all of the home chores and a full time job and then bitch at us when cant do it all ; and at first we gladly accept the responsiblity expecting gratitude and love in return because we do it out of love and the majority of the time all we get is taken for granted so we are left feeling jaded.
Mine is far from it. Not to try to brag or any thing.But I do not agree that the majority of guys are like this...
What I do think is that the ladies let it happen and it becomes a way of life for them.They dont speak up and say "hell no, things will change or you are out the door"...Majority of females are so insecure about finding another guy that they stay and allow to be walked all over repeatidly...
Hope this does not offend any one, just my opinion on the majority of fems
 
ksharp01 said:
You know, you don't know everything and you haven't been in my shoes to even walk a mile. Everything is always easier said than done. Yes he is lazy but he isn't abusive to me or my son and my son doens't know all that is going on. They have a great relationship together but my son has a dad that is very much active in his life. He is a great kid and I am very proud of the lil man he is becoming.

It amuses me how when someone throws their heart out there, there is always that one person that wants to kick you when your already down. My b/f has a big heart but he is very lazy and this isn't easy for me, especially because of not only my son but he has kids that I have very much grown attached to.
I know I sound like a jerk but sometimes people need an objective outside perspective about things. Ive lived with a girlfriend before who was a waste of space, but damn was she great in bed. Didnt matter, the relationship was fubar so I threw everything I owned in my truck and left. Yea, she was hot and I was going to miss the great sex but people gotta see the bigger issues and in the back of your mind you know what you have to do. Its fear of the unknown that is holding you back but I will tell you from experience that the day you kick him out and cut all ties will be the day you are a new woman, for both you and your son. Quit trying to rationalize your mistake by saying how he doesnt abuse you so there must be some hope. He cant simultaneously be loving and not contribute to the household or relationship. Thats selfishness not love. Youve been stuck in this rut for a long time and you probably cant envision being without him but if you have the courage to do the right thing I promise you it will be the one of the best decisions you will ever make.
 
Angel said:
Mine is far from it. Not to try to brag or any thing.But I do not agree that the majority of guys are like this...
What I do think is that the ladies let it happen and it becomes a way of life for them.They dont speak up and say "hell no, things will change or you are out the door"...Majority of females are so insecure about finding another guy that they stay and allow to be walked all over repeatidly...
Hope this does not offend any one, just my opinion on the majority of fems


I totally understand where you are coming from ; but I guess what I'm trying to say is we WANT to do things for our men ; but the only way to keep them from taking us for granted is to NOT DO THEM AT ALL because we wont be appreciated for it. Thats all I'm saying. The majority of men still expect certain things to be women's responsiblity like laundry and cleaning sometimes cooking and if you start doing those things its hard to stop because they expect it forever and never a thank you or even doing a load of laundry on their own they will just let all the clothes pile up because its our job right???

I dont call this walked all over ; I swear you have to teach men how to react and deal with you in relationships ; there are ways to get them to do things and they dont even know it!! LOL.

ksharp for starters do you need help around the house? there are certain chores that men wont mind doing.

As far as men and laziness w/ money and bills ; that is a tough one. Most of the time they stay that way ; but sometimes they change.

I married a man w/ a really really crappy driving record and it has gotten better since we've been married.

Another ticket and we sell his truck its a numbers thing pure and simple.

I'm not saying to put up w/ men that walk all over you but on the other hand we kind of teach people how to treat us ya know what I mean?

I'm rambling - lol!
 
cindylou said:
superdave ; I understand where you are coming from but the majority of men are exactly like ksharp mentioned ; and thats just a fact pure and simple.

They still expect us to do all of the home chores and a full time job and then bitch at us when cant do it all ; and at first we gladly accept the responsiblity expecting gratitude and love in return because we do it out of love and the majority of the time all we get is taken for granted so we are left feeling jaded.
You get taken advantage of if you allow yourself to, plain and simple. And just because you happen to think most men are like this is that better than being single? Please tell me women like you and ksharp dont move in with these men because you think its the best you can do and you cant stand to be alone.
 
cindylou said:
I totally understand where you are coming from ; but I guess what I'm trying to say is we WANT to do things for our men ; but the only way to keep them from taking us for granted is to NOT DO THEM AT ALL because we wont be appreciated for it. Thats all I'm saying. The majority of men still expect certain things to be women's responsiblity like laundry and cleaning sometimes cooking and if you start doing those things its hard to stop because they expect it forever and never a thank you or even doing a load of laundry on their own they will just let all the clothes pile up because its our job right???

I dont call this walked all over ; I swear you have to teach men how to react and deal with you in relationships ; there are ways to get them to do things and they dont even know it!! LOL.

ksharp for starters do you need help around the house? there are certain chores that men wont mind doing.

As far as men and laziness w/ money and bills ; that is a tough one. Most of the time they stay that way ; but sometimes they change.

I married a man w/ a really really crappy driving record and it has gotten better since we've been married.

Another ticket and we sell his truck its a numbers thing pure and simple.

I'm not saying to put up w/ men that walk all over you but on the other hand we kind of teach people how to treat us ya know what I mean?

I'm rambling - lol!

Holy shit.... Someone's a little bitter.
 
cindylou said:
superdave ; I understand where you are coming from but the majority of men are exactly like ksharp mentioned ; and thats just a fact pure and simple.

They still expect us to do all of the home chores and a full time job and then bitch at us when cant do it all ; and at first we gladly accept the responsiblity expecting gratitude and love in return because we do it out of love and the majority of the time all we get is taken for granted so we are left feeling jaded.

Thanks for that!!!!

You said it better than I did. I want to spit fire in one breath and cry my heart out in the next. He used to be my bestest friend ever, we did everything together and he treated me like a gueen, like no one could ever even come close, so like you said..I didn't mind doing those things for him. I knew he didn't have much money when we started dating but we just connected on so many levels that I had never had before with anyone else and enjoyed doing for him. But now he acts like that is just my duty and gives me nothing in return....nothing.
I keep giving him chances to stay and TRY but still I get nothing....we all have to earn our keep in some shape or form-so to speak.
I don't think love alone is enough. I can't do ALL the giving without getting something in return.
This is why some of you have heard me say to never stop doing those little things that mean so much.
 
cindylou said:
ksharp for starters do you need help around the house? there are certain chores that men wont mind doing.

As far as men and laziness w/ money and bills ; that is a tough one. Most of the time they stay that way ; but sometimes they change.
A man of Ksharp's bf laziness will not improve because it is all pervasive with him. He has proven it after 6 years.
 
cindylou said:
superdave ; I understand where you are coming from but the majority of men are exactly like ksharp mentioned ; and thats just a fact pure and simple.

They still expect us to do all of the home chores and a full time job and then bitch at us when cant do it all ; and at first we gladly accept the responsiblity expecting gratitude and love in return because we do it out of love and the majority of the time all we get is taken for granted so we are left feeling jaded.


Whoa shooter.

The majority of men? NO. The majority you know maybe. I take offense at that.

Ksharp, being lazy at home and making you do everything is being abusive.

A man does not act like that, a boy does.
 
ksharp01 said:
You know, you don't know everything and you haven't been in my shoes to even walk a mile. Everything is always easier said than done. Yes he is lazy but he isn't abusive to me or my son and my son doens't know all that is going on. They have a great relationship together but my son has a dad that is very much active in his life. He is a great kid and I am very proud of the lil man he is becoming.

It amuses me how when someone throws their heart out there, there is always that one person that wants to kick you when your already down. My b/f has a big heart but he is very lazy and this isn't easy for me, especially because of not only my son but he has kids that I have very much grown attached to.
Maybe you should concider talking to your b/f..However personally I would not stay if I were not happy or were not being treated fairly..Sure dont get me wrong-every couple has issues..But there is a limit that needs to be set on issues...
I fully understand about the kid thing, however you cannot pretend to be happy in a spot just because your son made a friend or you like his kids..
I guess bottom line is either talk to him and tell him what you feel, then either leave or stay. Either way it is your life, your choice. Personally if you stay then what is the point of complaining about it all when you have allowed it, basically brought it on yourself..nothing against you but thats the way I see it
 
superdave said:
You get taken advantage of if you allow yourself to, plain and simple. And just because you happen to think most men are like this is that better than being single? Please tell me women like you and ksharp dont move in with these men because you think its the best you can do and you cant stand to be alone.

I'm married and not to a man that is being described here in this thread.

He is a good man and provides well for me and does the best he can ; I belive he is taking me for granted because I've allowed him to ; just like you said like the majority of women do.

that is how we kinda show love is by doing things for our men and we want it to be acknowledged. Therefore we are mad and think of our husbands ; or SO as being lazy when they wont do anything when we've been doing it all along and are not being acknowledged makes us stop and when they dont take it upon themselves to pick up the slack we get even more pissed.

We just try to do it all!! LOL!!
 
Angel said:
Mine is far from it. Not to try to brag or any thing.But I do not agree that the majority of guys are like this...
What I do think is that the ladies let it happen and it becomes a way of life for them.They dont speak up and say "hell no, things will change or you are out the door"...Majority of females are so insecure about finding another guy that they stay and allow to be walked all over repeatidly...
Hope this does not offend any one, just my opinion on the majority of fems


No not the majority of men are like this your right. And I would agree that I am the one that spoiled him but I was getting something in return. I nevered stopped and he gradually stopped doing the things that made us - us.

and I do not offend easily...we all have our own opion.....free speech. :) But it is hard for me to sit here and type out every detail, feeling, thought, emotion on a forum.
 
mountain muscle said:
Whoa shooter.

The majority of men? NO. The majority you know maybe. I take offense at that.

Ksharp, being lazy at home and making you do everything is being abusive.

A man does not act like that, a boy does.
After an appreciable number, the common denominator of every bad relationship anyone has is themself. But the last thing people want to think about is that they cant choose good mates, or cant see the red flags early on and bury their head in the sand until its years later and they are living together or married and wondering how it all came to be.
 
superdave said:
After an appreciable number, the common denominator of every bad relationship anyone has is themself. But the last thing people want to think about is that they cant choose good mates, or cant see the red flags early on and bury their head in the sand until its years later and they are living together or married and wondering how it all came to be.

Or accept the fact that they may be the problem.
There is a reason I stay single now, I know I am a huge pain in the ass to deal with in a relationship.
 
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