Just an FYI..

[Reps For Jesus]

Running your test lower, or at a TRT dosage during a cycle, while having the other compounds higher to let them shine isn't always the best idea. In theory it is great idea, but ideas don't always pan out. It may work for some compounds, but for others it may backfire.

I just see this a lot, and seems to be getting repeated by more and more people.. and it is not necessarily true. Don't pass your opinion off as fact. That is all I am saying.

Take care

 

[Svenman19]

I've ran tren with 250 and 500 a week test. And didn't notice any difference really

 

[bonacris]

I will only ever comment on something that has worked for me in the past so you will often see me saying this about low test and tren.

everyone will react differently to these kind of thing so you can only give your opinion and any advice received on these boards should be treated as such


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[Nelson Montana]

"Don't pass your opinion off as fact."

You got that part right.

 

[Mkingo]

Good point

 

[Reps For Jesus]

I will only ever comment on something that has worked for me in the past so you will often see me saying this about low test and tren.

everyone will react differently to these kind of thing so you can only give your opinion and any advice received on these boards should be treated as such


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That is exactly what should happen.. but unfortunately it doesn't. It's one of those things that someone reads, then posts.. someone else reads that.. and so on.. and before you know it it's a fact.

Tren is one of the compounds that this could really work well for. But what if you add EQ to that? All steroids are derived from testosterone, but not all of them have the same characteristics. I mean.. Why can some of then kill your libido?
So if you doing a stack of something, those other compounds and characteristics are going to override the testosterone because there is not enough of it. Or something like Deca. There is a reason why you don't run deca or npp without test. I remember Nelson saying that it is essentially an anti-androgen. So test lower than that would lead to problems.

 

[Arabian]

Agree 110% , good point.

 

[RickRock13]

I agree 100%. I'm an advocate of running my test higher in most cycles, and always have been. I respond well to test, and I feel better with a stronger libido. Sides have never been a problem either. Just came off of 10 weeks of Tren at 400mg per week, and ran my test at 500mg the whole time. It may not be for everyone, but it works well for me

 

[bonacris]

This is why we tell everyone to research before doing any steroids or even supplements.

For example I researched for more than a year before doing tren. When I did do it I added it to test e and dbol (2 compounds that I know exactly how my body reacts too) so the only thing that changed was the added tren..

Unfortunately there is no cookie cutter cycle for steroids and everyone will react differently. I agree with RFJ that stuff gets parroted around because they have seen someone else say it..

There is more than one board on the internet to get information from so I suggest people read every single thing they can find before putting a substance into their body

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[Nelson Montana]

But it's not like the more test you take the more libido you have. There's a sweet spot the body prefers. Some people actually lose libido if test gets too high. And if something is killing libido, more test isn't always the answer.

For the life of me I don't know why anyone would use deca. It's the most miserable failure of a drug.

Also, with a substance like Primobolin, it's MILDLY suppressive. Of course, it's has just enough androgen to kill libido so you do need test with it. For my contest prep I essentially used 300 mgs of primo and 300 mgs of test a week and libido was fine.

 

[RickRock13]

But it's not like the more test you take the more libido you have. There's a sweet spot the body prefers. Some people actually lose libido if test gets too high. And if something is killing libido, more test isn't always the answer.

For the life of me I don't know why anyone would use deca. It's the most miserable failure of a drug.

Also, with a substance like Primobolin, it's MILDLY suppressive. Of course, it's has just enough androgen to kill libido so you do need test with it. For my contest prep I essentially used 300 mgs of primo and 300 mgs of test a week and libido was fine.

I think the only reason anyone would have a drop in libido from run ng high test would be because they aren't controlling estrogen. Obviously higher test will give higher aromatization, and if its not controlled it can lead to a lot of problems including a drop in libido

 

[Nelson Montana]

I think the only reason anyone would have a drop in libido from run ng high test would be because they aren't controlling estrogen. Obviously higher test will give higher aromatization, and if its not controlled it can lead to a lot of problems including a drop in libido

Of course, but controlling estro is so often guesswork. Who really knows if they have too much? And too little can kill libido. And everybody processes it differebtly. So my point is, it isn't just about adding more test. If anything, lowering SHBG and increasing FREE testosterone should be priority #1.