Just a question....

[Ilk]

If you have a muslim background, but you don't class YOURSELF as a Muslim... Nor does your parents though you're from a Muslim country....

Do you feel bad when someone ask's....

"Oh so you have a Turkish background, So you're Muslim?"

I'm like, No.... I wouldn't say I am, I have beliefs etc, But I'm a strict religious person... My mum does pray.... and she used to fast before she became unwell....

But the reaction I got was... "Oh, Ok"

Is there anything wrong with that?

 

[vixensghost]

People like to assume a lot of things when they are clueless!

I'm with you, who says your country of origin has to determine ANYTHING about you!

 

[fistfullofsteel]

boobie pics make everything better

 

[SoKlueles]

i have a question also
i work with a girl who moved from another country, bosnia perhaps?
and i believe she is muslim, im not sure but she is another religion
shes lived in the US most of her life, and her parents dont wnat her dating non muslim men and they are mad at her right now because she is dating outside her religion
but imo, if they moved to the US, and work and live among other religion backgrounds, wouldnt you think they should sort of expect her to date outside her religion?
I told her im a southerner, and (no offense to any other race) my parents dont wnat me dating outside my race, but its like telling me that and then moving in the middle of an asian community. You cant help who you love

 

[Ilk]

People like to assume a lot of things when they are clueless!

I'm with you, who says your country of origin has to determine ANYTHING about you!

Yes... Exactly what I was trying to explain!

The look of surprise on peoples faces when I say I'm not.... I feel like they wanna beat me...

 

[Sub-Zero]

If you have a muslim background, but you don't class YOURSELF as a Muslim... Nor does your parents though you're from a Muslim country....

Do you feel bad when someone ask's....

"Oh so you have a Turkish background, So you're Muslim?"

I'm like, No.... I wouldn't say I am, I have beliefs etc, But I'm a strict religious person... My mum does pray.... and she used to fast before she became unwell....

But the reaction I got was... "Oh, Ok"

Is there anything wrong with that?

i have a turkishj background (well partially at least).

anyway, everyones ignorant, i just either let it go if its not a big dela comment, but if it bothers me or pisses me off in anyway i call them out, usually calling them a jew, or piece of shit, or tell them virgin marry wasnt a virgin cause i found her gravesite and banged her, etc.

especially now that im realizing people go out of their way to offend others and drive their confidence down just to be dicks, i have alot less of a problem doing it right back

 

[Jon79]

hi girls

three kisses 4 all of you



since i am such an ass kisser

 

[jh1]

Why would you feel bad even if you were relgious & muslim?

 

[Ilk]

i have a question also
i work with a girl who moved from another country, bosnia perhaps?
and i believe she is muslim, im not sure but she is another religion
shes lived in the US most of her life, and her parents dont wnat her dating non muslim men and they are mad at her right now because she is dating outside her religion
but imo, if they moved to the US, and work and live among other religion backgrounds, wouldnt you think they should sort of expect her to date outside her religion?
I told her im a southerner, and (no offense to any other race) my parents dont wnat me dating outside my race, but its like telling me that and then moving in the middle of an asian community. You cant help who you love

Totally disagree with the parents.... if they live in the US and expect her to date a muslim guy... Well, thats just telling her what to do...

Totally wrong.... She should explain to them that may not happen due to where they live.... If they expect her to marry someone muslim then move back to the background they're from....

thats so wrong... She should date who she wants....

 

[vixensghost]

Yes... Exactly what I was trying to explain!

The look of surprise on peoples faces when I say I'm not.... I feel like they wanna beat me...

Typical of narrow minded people, or people who are NOT world traveled.

It's kinda tough to see past other notions when all you know is the little bubble you never leave. Right?

 

[binö]

I'm with you, who says your country of origin has to determine ANYTHING about you!

it has everything to do about you.
your culture, traditions, beliefs and morals

 

[Ilk]

i have a turkishj background (well partially at least).

anyway, everyones ignorant, i just either let it go if its not a big dela comment, but if it bothers me or pisses me off in anyway i call them out, usually calling them a jew, or piece of shit, or tell them virgin marry wasnt a virgin cause i found her gravesite and banged her, etc.

especially now that im realizing people go out of their way to offend others and drive their confidence down just to be dicks, i have alot less of a problem doing it right back

yeah I know...

I wish I could you how rude people are about it....

I didn't know you had a turkish background too... HIGH FIVE!

 

[Sub-Zero]

Totally disagree with the parents.... if they live in the US and expect her to date a muslim guy... Well, thats just telling her what to do...

Totally wrong.... She should explain to them that may not happen due to where they live.... If they expect her to marry someone muslim then move back to the background they're from....

thats so wrong... She should date who she wants....

im not trying to start an arguement here, but just like you feel she should be able to date who she wants, because of your culture, they strongly feel she shouldnt, because of their culture.

its just their beliefs and practices, and their restrictions are just as important to them, as your freedoms are to you.

both of you are wrong, everyone should just date me and only me

 

[Ilk]

Why would you feel bad even if you were relgious & muslim?

People assume I am...

When I correct them... they think I don't give a toss about my background... though I usually know more than them...

It works the other way too...

My friend is a very strict muslim, Prays 5 times a day... Does everything by the book etc.... AND when she informs people that she's muslim, Again theres a look of "Oh, shes muslim, lets go"

people are strange... Pisses me off...

 

[SoKlueles]

Totally disagree with the parents.... if they live in the US and expect her to date a muslim guy... Well, thats just telling her what to do...

Totally wrong.... She should explain to them that may not happen due to where they live.... If they expect her to marry someone muslim then move back to the background they're from....

thats so wrong... She should date who she wants....

thats how i see it
see we think alike

 

[vixensghost]

it has everything to do about you.
your culture, traditions, beliefs and morals

Since when does where you live or come from proove you have any of the things you listed above?

Did I miss what you're trying to say?

 

[binö]

My friend is a very strict muslim, Prays 5 times a day... Does everything by the book etc.... AND when she informs people that she's muslim, Again theres a look of "Oh, shes muslim, lets go"

people are strange... Pisses me off...

well, if she was evangelical she'd still get the same response
people who aren't religious are turned off by people who are

 

[Ilk]

im not trying to start an arguement here, but just like you feel she should be able to date who she wants, because of your culture, they strongly feel she shouldnt, because of their culture.

its just their beliefs and practices, and their restrictions are just as important to them, as your freedoms are to you.

both of you are wrong, everyone should just date me and only me

I understand... But its hard to tell someone you can only date so and so because we believe that.... I wouldn't, I'll date who I want you know?

Must be a hard situation to be in...

 

[Ilk]

well, if she was evangelical she'd still get the same response
people who aren't religious are turned off by people who are

I know, thats so true... Don't know why people can't accept peoples beliefs or no beliefs....

 

[Faizakafez]

If you have a muslim background, but you don't class YOURSELF as a Muslim... Nor does your parents though you're from a Muslim country....

Do you feel bad when someone ask's....

"Oh so you have a Turkish background, So you're Muslim?"

I'm like, No.... I wouldn't say I am, I have beliefs etc, But I'm a strict religious person... My mum does pray.... and she used to fast before she became unwell....

But the reaction I got was... "Oh, Ok"

Is there anything wrong with that?

No, however i am muslim... and when you say MUSLIM COUNTRY it would be a common question to ask if your muslim? why, most likely to say salaam which would be the 'proper' thing to do. Secondly, the relationship changes when you find out the person is muslim. "Becomes more a brother hood" in the case for males.

 

[binö]

I know, thats so true... Don't know why people can't accept peoples beliefs or no beliefs....

well, maybe they can accept it they just don't agree/relate.
for example, if i met a gal and she was a flaming evangelical, i'd be like see ya...not cause i don't respect her beliefs/morals, but because i don't relate in anyway.

 

[Ilk]

No, however i am muslim... and when you say MUSLIM COUNTRY it would be a common question to ask if your muslim? why, most likely to say salaam which would be the 'proper' thing to do. Secondly, the relationship changes when you find out the person is muslim. "Becomes more a brother hood" in the case for males.

Some poeple might not know what Salaam means... So I used the easier term...

It may become a brother hood to those who are muslim...

My very good friend is muslim and he gets the same reaction as my other friend when mentioned that she is muslim and religious...

So it depends on where you are.... Its different in many places... I agree with what you mention about it being a brotherhood.... thats good...

All I'm saying is why should people be treated like that whether they're muslim or not....

Its just unfair to judge someone like that

 

[Faizakafez]

Some poeple might not know what Salaam means... So I used the easier term...

It may become a brother hood to those who are muslim...

My very good friend is muslim and he gets the same reaction as my other friend when mentioned that she is muslim and religious...

So it depends on where you are.... Its different in many places... I agree with what you mention about it being a brotherhood.... thats good...

All I'm saying is why should people be treated like that whether they're muslim or not....

Its just unfair to judge someone like that

That happens alot, i mean if your muslim depending on the person your speaking to the assumption is made your the ideal muslim. Personally i dont tell them about my religious habits so their view can't change but they would just consider me oh the brother who works in this department... etc...

 

[Ilk]

well, maybe they can accept it they just don't agree/relate.
for example, if i met a gal and she was a flaming evangelical, i'd be like see ya...not cause i don't respect her beliefs/morals, but because i don't relate in anyway.

perfect description of what I mean....


Thats what happens.... And saying to a muslim that you're not a muslim gets the same reaction.... I'm speaking from experience so I'm not talking about every religious person...

 

[jh1]

This isn't really about being muslim or not then - this is experienced in every relgion.

I remember kids looking at me like I was from Mars when I said I didn't beleive in god when I was in grade school.

Same type of situation, they were - for the most part - white christians and expected the same from me.

Eh... shake it off. It's their issue, not yours. They can't deal with diversity and individual beliefs and values. The sad thing is - most relgions teach / breed intolerance for others wether they admit to it or not.

 

[Ilk]

That happens alot, i mean if your muslim depending on the person your speaking to the assumption is made your the ideal muslim. Personally i dont tell them about my religious habits so their view can't change but they would just consider me oh the brother who works in this department... etc...

Yeah, true....

I remember my friend at school... Who was Kurdish, And he didn't want people to know because he thought people would hate him because of his muslim background.... So he held back from telling people....

people should accept who you are...

 

[ceo]

If you have a muslim background, but you don't class YOURSELF as a Muslim... Nor does your parents though you're from a Muslim country....

Do you feel bad when someone ask's....

"Oh so you have a Turkish background, So you're Muslim?"

I'm like, No.... I wouldn't say I am, I have beliefs etc, But I'm a strict religious person... My mum does pray.... and she used to fast before she became unwell....

But the reaction I got was... "Oh, Ok"

Is there anything wrong with that?

Merhaba! Most Turkish people I know aren't very religious. And most from other muslim countries understand that. They may not agree with it, but they understand it.

I know some Turks who run a pizza place. Love some soujouk pizza! Super nice guys too. I've met some really hot Turkish girls too!

 

[Ilk]

This isn't really about being muslim or not then - this is experienced in every relgion.

I remember kids looking at me like I was from Mars when I said I didn't beleive in god when I was in grade school.

Same type of situation, they were - for the most part - white christians and expected the same from me.

Eh... shake it off. It's their issue, not yours. They can't deal with diversity and individual beliefs and values. The sad thing is - most relgions teach / breed intolerance for others wether they admit to it or not.

Uh huh.... You know what I'm saying!

just annoying.....

 

[Ilk]

Merhaba! Most Turkish people I know aren't very religious. And most from other muslim countries understand that. They may not agree with it, but they understand it.

I know some Turks who run a pizza place. Love some soujouk pizza! Super nice guys too. I've met some really hot Turkish girls too!

LMAO... Sucuk pizza.... yeah!

Ceo... Go to Turkey, Antalya, Istanbul, Izmir anywhere! and you'll be amazed at how beautiful the girls are there.... Nothing like I've seen anywhere else...

 

[binö]

isn't muslim almost considered a ethnic group? i know this isn't a perfect fitting category, i realize the difference between arabs and peeps from turkey/iraq/egypt...but similiar to non practicing jews calling themselves jews.
am i correct?

 

[ceo]

LMAO... Sucuk pizza.... yeah!

Ceo... Go to Turkey, Antalya, Istanbul, Izmir anywhere! and you'll be amazed at how beautiful the girls are there.... Nothing like I've seen anywhere else...

I can imagine!

Back to the muslim thing. Most (if not all) muslims consider themselves muslim from birth. So, if you tell them you are not a muslim, they think you "denounced Allah" so to speak. Are you currently practicing any religion? Were you raised muslim? Have you since accepted a different faith? Can you say you are just not a practicing muslim? Then, the simple answer to, "are you muslim?" would be "yes" (but you could also say "yes, but I don't practice").

 

[Ilk]

I can imagine!

Back to the muslim thing. Most (if not all) muslims consider themselves muslim from birth. So, if you tell them you are not a muslim, they think you "denounced Allah" so to speak. Are you currently practicing any religion? Were you raised muslim? Have you since accepted a different faith? Can you say you are just not a practicing muslim? Then, the simple answer to, "are you muslim?" would be "yes" (but you could also say "yes, but I don't practice").

Yep, True....

I wasn't raised as a muslim, My parents wouldn't say they're muslim too...

Haven't accepted a different faith, We weren't brought up in a religious upbringing... I have beliefs... But so does everyone....